Does Obama have it BACKWARDS, by exporting jobs and importing illegal aliens?
tncdel
2012/06/26 14:06:27
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Obama has imported no jobs for our out-of-work citizens, yet has outsourced millions of jobs to China, etc. And also outsourced over 3 millions more jobs RIGHT UNDER OUR VERY NOSES, by issuing over 3 million work visas to foreigners.
Plus last week Obama unconstitutionally issued 800,000 work permits and de facto amnesty to ILLEGAL ALIENS. And that was on the heels of last year also giving another 300,000 work permits to illegal aliens.
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Plus last week Obama unconstitutionally issued 800,000 work permits and de facto amnesty to ILLEGAL ALIENS. And that was on the heels of last year also giving another 300,000 work permits to illegal aliens.
See:
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/warning-obama-issues-ex...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/is-it-fair-that-obama-i...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/obama-brags-about-creat...
http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/should-obama-have-by-pa...
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SteveMarine- JLA 2012/06/26 14:48:46YES, Obama has it BACKWARDS [tell us why you think so].






















And similarly, how much do you think the cost of produce would be in your local supermarket if it weren't for the immigrants (legal or illegal)? Would you be willing to pay $10 a pound for tomatoes? I think not.
I would love to see outsourcing stopped. However, until the American is willing to work for less, it will never happen. I get very frustrated when I call a company with a question and get someone from India or the Phillipines. I can barely understand them and they can barely understand me. Usually I hang up and my question goes unanswered. I sometimes feel that this is what the corporations want. Let them produce shabby products and then not have to answer to the American consumer for their inferior workmanship.
Free trade, does not equal fair trade; in the US, you have EPA, OSHA, Minimum wage, Dept of Labor, SS tax, etc etc… all these things add to our base line cost. By bringing items in from countries which do not have these things, our manufacturing jobs cannot compete. To make matters worse; other countries are making products with less and less quality; forcing our consumers to purchase items which they’ll have to replace in a relatively short period of time.
All of this allows employers to maintain low wages, because people buy cheap crap made from other countries. However, if someone couldn’t survive on say $10/hour, they wouldn’t take that job. They might be unemployed for a period of time; or take multiple jobs making less than they can survive on; but they would be constantly seeking better employment. Which would force the employer to pay the employee more, in order to maintain their employed force. Would some pass this cost...
Free trade, does not equal fair trade; in the US, you have EPA, OSHA, Minimum wage, Dept of Labor, SS tax, etc etc… all these things add to our base line cost. By bringing items in from countries which do not have these things, our manufacturing jobs cannot compete. To make matters worse; other countries are making products with less and less quality; forcing our consumers to purchase items which they’ll have to replace in a relatively short period of time.
All of this allows employers to maintain low wages, because people buy cheap crap made from other countries. However, if someone couldn’t survive on say $10/hour, they wouldn’t take that job. They might be unemployed for a period of time; or take multiple jobs making less than they can survive on; but they would be constantly seeking better employment. Which would force the employer to pay the employee more, in order to maintain their employed force. Would some pass this cost on to the consumer, absolutely, but I imagine some would also cut into their own profits slightly, to reduce their cost, to ensure their product sells.
Also, this whole argument about increased wages would cause astronomical increases in the product is pure BS. I grew up on a farm, I know what goes into picking tomatoes, and I also know how long it takes to pick them when you’re not screwing off. Say an average worker can pick 2 tomatoes per minute, one every 30 seconds (which I might add, my father would of whooped my rump for picking that slow), and you are paying them $4/hour to do so. That would mean, his cost would be $0.03 per tomato. If we increased his salary to $20/hour, his cost would increase by $0.14 per tomato. The other day, I bought some tomatoes for $0.89, if you passed every cent on to me, I would of paid $1.03, which is far from the $10 per pound, and very affordable to a person who is making a decent living. And, I am sure, you could find an American to pick tomatoes for $20/hour.
The fact that this is even being debated is a prime example of how our economic system is off key. Henry Ford said, your employee needs to be paid enough to buy your own product; and that is where we’ve screwed the pouch in recent years.
He is doing what his backers and his BLT people and the muzzies he loves WANT him to do, destroying Americas economic viability vy removing our manufacturing jobs and base and importing millions of Hamas, Palestinian, mexican/latino welfare dwellers to SUCK the remaining life out of the republic.