Clicked wrong answer!
There are some real problems with this:
1) his action was not a "Nazi salute" since he did not make any other statements that could be considered of a Nazi nature at the time.
2) freedom of speech at a public meeting held on public ground is protected by the constitution.
3) saluting or making a gesture is not disturbing the peace or inciting violence otherwise people could not salute the US flag or wave hello.
4) the officer said he was being arrested for trespassing but this was a public meeting for the public
5) the officer did not tell him what the charges were before arresting him
The city council has the right to have people removed IF they are creating a public disturbance and the man refused to leave so he could be arrested for trespassing at that point so the question is if his salute created a public disturbance and from the video it appears only one board member was disturbed and everyone else ignored it.
I think the board member needs a reprimand for not handling this in a more mature manner and should publicly apologize to the individual.
I am offended by true white supremacists throwing up a Nazi salute but it looks like this individual was making the point that the city board was acting like Nazi's and therefore his salute was actually a statement a...
There are some real problems with this:
1) his action was not a "Nazi salute" since he did not make any other statements that could be considered of a Nazi nature at the time.
2) freedom of speech at a public meeting held on public ground is protected by the constitution.
3) saluting or making a gesture is not disturbing the peace or inciting violence otherwise people could not salute the US flag or wave hello.
4) the officer said he was being arrested for trespassing but this was a public meeting for the public
5) the officer did not tell him what the charges were before arresting him
The city council has the right to have people removed IF they are creating a public disturbance and the man refused to leave so he could be arrested for trespassing at that point so the question is if his salute created a public disturbance and from the video it appears only one board member was disturbed and everyone else ignored it.
I think the board member needs a reprimand for not handling this in a more mature manner and should publicly apologize to the individual.
I am offended by true white supremacists throwing up a Nazi salute but it looks like this individual was making the point that the city board was acting like Nazi's and therefore his salute was actually a statement a...
Clicked wrong answer!
There are some real problems with this:
1) his action was not a "Nazi salute" since he did not make any other statements that could be considered of a Nazi nature at the time.
2) freedom of speech at a public meeting held on public ground is protected by the constitution.
3) saluting or making a gesture is not disturbing the peace or inciting violence otherwise people could not salute the US flag or wave hello.
4) the officer said he was being arrested for trespassing but this was a public meeting for the public
5) the officer did not tell him what the charges were before arresting him
The city council has the right to have people removed IF they are creating a public disturbance and the man refused to leave so he could be arrested for trespassing at that point so the question is if his salute created a public disturbance and from the video it appears only one board member was disturbed and everyone else ignored it.
I think the board member needs a reprimand for not handling this in a more mature manner and should publicly apologize to the individual.
I am offended by true white supremacists throwing up a Nazi salute but it looks like this individual was making the point that the city board was acting like Nazi's and therefore his salute was actually a statement against the excessive authority of the council and the video and arrest seems to support him that the city council is abusing their authority and acting like Nazi's.
(more)There are some real problems with this:
1) his action was not a "Nazi salute" since he did not make any other statements that could be considered of a Nazi nature at the time.
2) freedom of speech at a public meeting held on public ground is protected by the constitution.
3) saluting or making a gesture is not disturbing the peace or inciting violence otherwise people could not salute the US flag or wave hello.
4) the officer said he was being arrested for trespassing but this was a public meeting for the public
5) the officer did not tell him what the charges were before arresting him
The city council has the right to have people removed IF they are creating a public disturbance and the man refused to leave so he could be arrested for trespassing at that point so the question is if his salute created a public disturbance and from the video it appears only one board member was disturbed and everyone else ignored it.
I think the board member needs a reprimand for not handling this in a more mature manner and should publicly apologize to the individual.
I am offended by true white supremacists throwing up a Nazi salute but it looks like this individual was making the point that the city board was acting like Nazi's and therefore his salute was actually a statement against the excessive authority of the council and the video and arrest seems to support him that the city council is abusing their authority and acting like Nazi's.
It is a legal expression of free speech. The arrest was illegal unless that was not the grounds for it.
This article suggests the action was more a protest of the conduct of the city council than any support for a particular ideology.
Now anyone who flashes anything that looks like a gang sign can expect to be hauled in by the police and questioned, at the very least.
But flashing a gang sign approaches the idiocy of joking with airline personnel that one will hijack the plane if one does not get one's cocktail. It can lead to a lot of inconvenience and several hours of talking to people who are very unpleasant and who will not let one go to the bathroom.
Maybe that they can do anything they want because they are cops.
And it's not so suprising that this happened in CALIFORNIA though things like this are starting to happen all over.
A man in Shreveport, LA was pulled over because he had a pro-2nd amendment sticker on his car. The cop asked him if he had a weapon and when he said he had one in the car, the cop searched the car (illegally - without the man's permission) and conficated it (read stole it) even though the man had a concealed carry permit and told the cop so.
Not too long ago a man in Shreveport, LA with a pro-2nd Amendment sticker on his car was pulled over by a cop - because he had a pro-2nd Amendment sticker on his car!. When the cop asked the man if he had a weapon in his car, the man answered truthfully that he did. Then the cop searched the man's car (illegally, without the man's permission) and confiscated (read stole) the man's gun. When the man phoned the mayor about this, the mayor laughed at the man and supported the cop.
I'm from New Orleans. Katrina, itself, didn't have as much effect on our city as the impact of the National Guard accompanied by Blackwater. Until 2008, I never evacuated from a hurricane in my life. I just didn't want to deal with the curfews and the police state which is something I will never believe took place on US soil. So, for Gustav, I did evacuate. If I mistrusted my government before Katrina, which I did, I can tell you that I have zero trust in our government and much research quantifies my regard for the travesty that is and has been operating as our government for decades.