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Does mainstream Islam endorse violence?

Assassin~ Badass Buzz Guru 2012/06/05 13:14:46
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  • Willski Red_Horse 2012/06/05 22:49:36
    Willski
    +2
    I was under the dellusion christians used the whole book. Considering how often clergyman, and sodahead christians alike have quoted, and used the old testament.
    And my christian education that used both parts.
    Oh, and my christain friends and relative.
    And the whole Vatican-sermons i've heard.
    So that's Anglicans, general Catholocism that do.
    So yes, i'm assuming Christians use the whole bible, after all they've chopped out all the bits you don't need several dozen times throughout history.
    Why, was I mistaken?
  • Red_Horse Willski 2012/06/05 22:58:32 (edited)
  • Willski Red_Horse 2012/06/06 00:45:41
    Willski
    +1
    aah, so you're ignoring the bits of the bible you disagree with.
  • Red_Horse Willski 2012/06/06 00:53:40 (edited)
  • Willski Red_Horse 2012/06/06 01:04:31 (edited)
    Willski
    +1
    My intent isn't to be disrespectful, and i really hate religious arguments because they tend to be pointless, no realistic endgame. I just make observations.
    The christian faith chose to retain almost all the old testement, it's logical that if they did that, they also follow it. Additionally i've had a lot of christians quoting it against me, and it includes lots of important bits like the 10 commandments.

    I assure you my intent isn't disrespect, and i apologise if i offended you.

    (Edit: Oh, and by the guidelines on this site, i should block and report you for directly insulting me. Please don't threaten to block for percieved insults, i don't bother being that subtle. I'd just insult you outright if it was my intent.)
  • Red_Horse Willski 2012/06/06 01:07:05
  • Red_Horse Willski 2012/06/06 01:14:55
  • Willski Red_Horse 2012/06/08 10:41:09
    Willski
    +1
    It does, thank you.
  • D D Willski 2012/06/06 19:34:22
    D D
    +3
    The Old Testament is Jewish history and law. In what is being talked about right now, New Testament does not speak of violence and even says not to be violent. They are not ignoring parts. Christians are not Jews and Jewish history is just history. Yet for Christians Jewish history and Jewish law is meaningful because it does talk about the coming messiah. which was Jewish. He fulfilled the law and we are saved by grace not the law like the Jews believe and follow. It is not ignored because it isn't liked.
  • HooplaHoopla 2012/06/05 22:08:07
    No
    HooplaHoopla
    +1
    No.. Not necessarily.
  • Solomonster 2012/06/05 22:07:38
    Yes
    Solomonster
    Don't we all?
  • sam123 2012/06/05 22:00:01
    No
    sam123
    what does mainstream mean to you ?
  • Ray the Dog! 2012/06/05 21:40:46
    Yes
    Ray the Dog!
    They certainly seem to practice enough of it-usually in the name of 'Allah'....
  • Patric 2012/06/05 21:27:11
    Yes
    Patric
    and load up and lock down,
    they are coming to a neighborhood near you,
    already in DC ......
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/05 22:40:08
    sam123
    take it easy
    slow down please
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/06 02:29:16
    Patric
    slow down,
    need to keep up the pace,
    they are living amoungst us.
    death walks behind you...
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/06 23:26:48
    sam123
    they are living amoungst us.
    how many are they?
    they can't be more than 60 million like judoe chritians with their infrastructure and an arson of nuclear wearon and powerful lobby ? can they ?

    they are only 7 million , half of them are poor, third of them wear second hand cloths, and the rest are sick and have no job
    yet you scared ?
    from what?

    you are too dramatic
    and you exaggerate too much
    be realistic
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/07 10:44:26
    Patric
    realistic ?
    the deaths of thousands each week and your response is to be realistic ?
    the muslums want you, you personaly , dead.. they want me dead,,,,
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/07 16:33:43
    sam123
    +1
    muslims , not ''muslums''

    this is what they want

    bryani
    bryani
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/07 16:42:15
    Patric
    is that before or after they sucide bomb us ?
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/07 17:24:43
    sam123
    why obssessed with bombing ?
    did you have any bad experience in afghanistan ? or in iraq?

    and what are you trying to imply?

    are you trying to tell us they have drones like this ? http://www.3quarksdaily.com/....
    or have mass weapon destruction
    mass weapon destruction
    this is what muslims have
    mass weapon destruction
    this is what they have
    mass weapon destruction
    this what you have
    afghanistan iraq imply drones httpwww 3quarksdaily mass weapon destruction muslims
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/07 18:51:03
    Patric
    yes, the western world does in fact have all the technical advancements.

    the muslums would have some also, execpt they keep strapping bombs to their children , make them go into a market place and blow them up..
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/07 20:01:34
    sam123
    +1
    again the muslims not the '''muslums''' , this is the second time i ma correcting you .

    i know exactly what you want, ehhheh!

    you want them to come out with their old scrap metals and face you so that you to finish them off quick ?
    i mean speed up the process of all out war
    exhausted already ?
    frustrated ?

    I do not think they do that with their children .. their religion forbid this type of barbarism .... never happen before

    muslims are so tender and soft and very kind even with small bird let alone with kids.

    watch how they have mercy and kindness in their heart with a thirsty bird, you can't find that anywhere in the world and this evidence is sufficient for anyone .





  • Patric sam123 2012/06/07 23:22:01
    Patric
    was going to read your lesson on correcting me

    but I ma not reading any more ....

    new tv show,, most dangerous jobs.... a muslum child, your only one bang away from 40 virgins.....
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/08 23:48:27
    sam123
    third time muslims not ''muslums''

    I ma not going to repeat it to you again .!!!ahhah

    finally
    islam is islam and does not endorse anything .
    there is self defence in it , the same like any other religion as simple as that .
    you can't steal someone's land and expect him/her to give you a kiss or flower
    do you ?
    get it now ?
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/09 00:01:14
    Patric
    I ma going to muslum as much as I chose..

    read in the paper today,,, and again, some muslums blew up a market place.. seems like I ma going to read this on a daily basis.
  • sam123 Patric 2012/06/09 00:19:14
    sam123
    well you are free to write ''Muslumus''' as much as you like since you have a rock on your head instead of a brain
    donkeys do not learn
    a rock in the  head

    and concentrating on isolated incident is very silly and stupid tactic coming from short sighted people
    again

    I ma congratulating for your fast learning
  • Patric sam123 2012/06/09 00:21:28
    Patric
    I ma accept your congrats..
    is this a muslum ( not muslumus ) safety helmet for the bombs ?
  • smileys... Patric 2012/06/14 08:51:37
    smileysouma
    So shallow from ur side!!
  • Patric smileys... 2012/06/14 08:56:54
    Patric
    shallow ? possible.

    accurate ,, YES !!!
  • smileys... Patric 2012/06/15 10:39:08
    smileysouma
    Accurate!!........Told u!! Shallow!! :D. Only shallow people judge the book from the cover before they can go through the whole of the book!!..........Peace man!!
  • Patric smileys... 2012/06/15 13:39:41
    Patric
    only thing wrong with open up a muslum book,

    it might be booby trap and blow up in your hands....
  • ordman 2012/06/05 21:01:58
    Yes
    ordman
    +2
    Yes silence implies consent!
  • XENON23 2012/06/05 20:49:51
    Yes
    XENON23
    +1
    When they do not stand against the Radicals...Yes.
  • sam123 XENON23 2012/06/05 22:01:44
    sam123
    you want them to fight each other ????

    radical against the moderate to please you ?
  • Prime Time Lime 2012/06/05 20:47:48 (edited)
    No
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    All religions have their equal share of of violence,and Judaism and Christianity have had plenty of their own as well.Look at the old testament and new testament.
  • Balladeer-PWCM-POTL 2012/06/05 20:45:04
    Yes
    Balladeer-PWCM-POTL
    +2
    because it FAILS to condemn or control the violence from the sects
  • Moonage 2012/06/05 20:42:11 (edited)
    Yes
    Moonage
    +3
    Did Pakistan apologize for harboring a mass murderer or get upset because we exacted justice? That's about all you need to know.
  • Mark In Irvine 2012/06/05 20:30:58
    Yes
    Mark In Irvine
    i suppose it depends on how you define the term "mainstream". If by "mainstream" you mean "as practiced in middle eastern countries like Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, and so on, the answer would seem to be "yes".

    if by "mainstream" you mean "as practiced by the majority of American muslims" i'd say "no".
  • Heisenberg 2012/06/05 20:26:43
    Yes
    Heisenberg
    +6
    Read the Koran.

    Islam has been imposed by force from the time of Muhammad.

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