Does It Bother You That Team USA’s Olympic Uniforms Are Not Made in the USA?
Fox Report with Shepard Smith
2012/07/12 14:10:20
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shelby.l.pittman 2012/07/13 20:45:55
I think the Olympic committee screwed up on this one. They should have known better. They are well schooled on the entire concept of the Olympics and representations of participating countries.
But the outcome I have to agree with, unfortunately. It would be totally wasteful to destroy those uniforms and replace them with made-in-America clothing. We need to continue to have sterling examples of good economic decisions in this time of such dire financial straits for our country, and so an apology needs to go out to the American public for the mistake that was made -- and it needs to be an admission of error! -- but in the interest of the taxpayers we're going to keep what we've got and make a point not to do this again.
What's wrong with this picture?
And yes, we do give China foreign aid, which is truly a gift and does not have to be paid back. The idea of giving money to China seems totally backwards and it is, but that's our government for ya.
You are totally correct in saying that we have brought every bit of this ourselves. It is up to the American people to make sure the government does their job correctly and fire them if they don't. We have allowed them to do this to us.
I agree w/ your agreement that our enemy is us.
About foreign aid to China. This is a new one on me. Can you post a source so I can read up on it?
Israel, Egypt, Columbia, Jordan, Pakistan, Peru, Indonesia, Kenya, Bolivia, Ukraine, India, Haiti, Russia, Ethiopia, West Bank/Gaza, Liberia, Bangladesh and Bosnia.
Sorry, no China.
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The crux of the conversation:
1. You make an “extraordinary” claim:
The claim suggests the United States gives substantial amounts of money to China.
The claim is extraordinary because intuitively, people would consider it odd that the US would support a potential rival to the US position of world dominance as well as a state obviously doing extremely well economically.
To make such a bold statement based upon knowledge or evidence apparently not generally available to the public would necessarily result in a challenge.
2. I challenge your claim:
In lieu of providing evidence supporting the claim, you respond indicating evidence is readily available by merely Googling.
Since your claim infers US government transfers of monies to China, the normal channel for such transfers is foreign aid.
Therefore, to find evidence I Google US foreign aid and learn the US Government does not include China on its list of foreign aid recipients.
3. You respond with a platitude:
For whatever reason, instead of providing evidence to support your claim, you try to divert or silence my challenge with a demeaning remark inferring I do not possess the fundamental intelligence to find such data and you will have to be bothered by showing me where to acquire it.
4. My judgmen...
The crux of the conversation:
1. You make an “extraordinary” claim:
The claim suggests the United States gives substantial amounts of money to China.
The claim is extraordinary because intuitively, people would consider it odd that the US would support a potential rival to the US position of world dominance as well as a state obviously doing extremely well economically.
To make such a bold statement based upon knowledge or evidence apparently not generally available to the public would necessarily result in a challenge.
2. I challenge your claim:
In lieu of providing evidence supporting the claim, you respond indicating evidence is readily available by merely Googling.
Since your claim infers US government transfers of monies to China, the normal channel for such transfers is foreign aid.
Therefore, to find evidence I Google US foreign aid and learn the US Government does not include China on its list of foreign aid recipients.
3. You respond with a platitude:
For whatever reason, instead of providing evidence to support your claim, you try to divert or silence my challenge with a demeaning remark inferring I do not possess the fundamental intelligence to find such data and you will have to be bothered by showing me where to acquire it.
4. My judgment from this exchange is that you have made an extraordinary claim; you were challenged as all claims should be; you merely attempt to minimize the challenge instead of providing any evidence to substantiate your claim.
5. The judgment result is I remain unconvinced your claim’s validity.
IMO, to make an extraordinary claim, the claimant would make an effort to have on hand some evidence to support said claim when it inevitably becomes challenged.
I wasn't aware of the machinations of the Olympics and who does what with whom. While I'm glad to hear that taxpayer money isn't going yet another direction, as we can ill afford it at this time, it would not have bothered me to have some money invested in supporting the American teams that compete.
So it would appear that the Olympic committee made a decision based on $$, which is what it usually comes down to, and probably, from their perspective, that was an intelligent choice. But, again, regardless of the non-participation of taxpayer funds, it still sounds bad to have American uniforms made anywhere but in America. Just principle, I suppose.
9/11 is a whole different animal. It was the greatest lie ever told by a Government to it's people and the resulting "war on terror" we have been fighting has nothing to do with outside terror threats. It is and always has been about gaining control over the American people not authorized by the Constitution. It has been a grand slam in that regard. The only people who call it a conspiracy theory or some such are simply too lazy or too scared to look at the mountain of facts that are irrefutable. Our own Government and the people who control them did that to us.
When you start trying to gain an understanding of our foreign policy, the more you look the worse it gets. It really is not complicated once you begin to understand how things really work on this planet.
Warning, if you start doing your homework and stop believing the lies we are told, you may have difficulty sleeping at night.
Everything that has happened in and to the United States has bases stemming from political decisions made rightly or wrongly. Human beings are flawed and imperfect; hence, we live in an imperfect world. It is likewise inhabited by some very powerful and extremely dangerous people whose self-interests far outweigh those of you or me. And all of those relationships are intricate and extremely delicate and, believe it or not, can be compared to Hollywood soap opera scripts, except for the fact that they are reality and the soap opera is strictly intended for amusement.
Right now our own government has grown into a festering sore that needs to be squeezed and purged a little bit. We need to downsize big government immediately, set term limits in an effort to stave off the corruptive influences of power, and get our economic house in order post haste. And I say post haste simply because the lions are breathing down our necks at this very moment and are getting closer and closer as every day passes. We are not going to be able to protect ourselves and our democratic republic much longer if we continue the way we are going.
The people who are cu...
Everything that has happened in and to the United States has bases stemming from political decisions made rightly or wrongly. Human beings are flawed and imperfect; hence, we live in an imperfect world. It is likewise inhabited by some very powerful and extremely dangerous people whose self-interests far outweigh those of you or me. And all of those relationships are intricate and extremely delicate and, believe it or not, can be compared to Hollywood soap opera scripts, except for the fact that they are reality and the soap opera is strictly intended for amusement.
Right now our own government has grown into a festering sore that needs to be squeezed and purged a little bit. We need to downsize big government immediately, set term limits in an effort to stave off the corruptive influences of power, and get our economic house in order post haste. And I say post haste simply because the lions are breathing down our necks at this very moment and are getting closer and closer as every day passes. We are not going to be able to protect ourselves and our democratic republic much longer if we continue the way we are going.
The people who are currently engaged in a very real (but silent) attack on the American way of life reside in Washington, D.C. for the most part. Outside sources, such as George Soros for one, are simply waiting on the sidelines for the right time to jump in and seize total control over America(ns). Meanwhile, yes, there are foreign intrigues all over the map. Some affect us only indirectly while others have direct impacts.
And then there are the side nut jobs, the Kim Jong-Ils of this world, for instance. And don't forget China. And we must not overlook the real threat of Islam. Skip the trashy stuff about the "good ones" versus the "bad ones."
Hello, there's a lot wrong with this world, sir, but there's not a whole lot we can do about it until we clean our own house out. The current Obama administration is opening doors that should never be touched, period. The man is dangerous and needs to be voted o-u-t, period.
Now you can dredge up the past and hash out all the conspiracy theories of the world all you want but that is not solving any of our problems today. I grew up in the United States of America, not the United States of Europe, and I still believe there is enough gumption in our citizens to start fighting back. But it's not going to remain there for very long. November 2012 is going to tell us whether or not we can win this little "war" of ours and whether or not we stand a chance of becoming once again the Leader of the Free World and a power to be reckoned with and so on and so forth.
And, you know, it isn't going to matter a whole lot to me anymore what the outcome of all of this is going to be because I'm already 65 years of age and the old body seems to be deteriorating at a pretty rapid rate. But I would like for my siblings' children to have what I had when I grew up. I carry a pride for America that many people have no capacity to feel, and it comes from experiences in my lifetime. I want that pride to prevail, not the simpering jackasses rising in the ranks today. So I'm going to continue to share any influence I may possibly have, even if I can only persuade one person to see things my way. That's going to be my final contribution. I only hope and pray that there are many more like myself out there willing to do the same.
'Nuff said.
I am also afraid that this November is going to be the last chance for America to wake up and save itself from the likes of the above.
If "We The People" don't have enough sense to fire Obama, America as we know it is going to die before his last 4 years are up. Like you, I am very concerned about the Country we leave our children. The N.W.O. is going to be a great place for the rulers but it's going to suck for the slaves.
My only comment on the entire subject now is the fact that I don't understand why they have managed to let the cat out of the bag so completely when over the years they have managed to accomplish their goals surreptitiously and alerting only a very few to what's happening.
Honestly? I think they made a tactical error and have shown their hand too soon. If they had stayed under the cloak of secrecy as they had been doing all along, waited just one more presidential term -- the 2012 election -- I do believe it would be impossible, totally impossible to stop them. Now, however, not just the intelligence community is alerted to what's going on. There are actually some American sheeple whose light bulbs have suddenly become lit. Yay for Obama, the little prick.
You and I have very similar fears. But I have been so fortunate to have been acquainted with some really, really fantastic people throughout my lifetime and I happen to believe there is still a spark ...
My only comment on the entire subject now is the fact that I don't understand why they have managed to let the cat out of the bag so completely when over the years they have managed to accomplish their goals surreptitiously and alerting only a very few to what's happening.
Honestly? I think they made a tactical error and have shown their hand too soon. If they had stayed under the cloak of secrecy as they had been doing all along, waited just one more presidential term -- the 2012 election -- I do believe it would be impossible, totally impossible to stop them. Now, however, not just the intelligence community is alerted to what's going on. There are actually some American sheeple whose light bulbs have suddenly become lit. Yay for Obama, the little prick.
You and I have very similar fears. But I have been so fortunate to have been acquainted with some really, really fantastic people throughout my lifetime and I happen to believe there is still a spark of America in the American people. Just as the poor Japanese discovered when they "woke the sleeping giant," I am hoping that there is still enough of "us" around that we can fight and win this one last battle. And, indeed, I agree with you, this will BE the very last battle if we lose.
Keep up the good work, dig all the dirt you can and expose it whenever and wherever you can and make the ignorant youth and me-me-me citizens see what they obviously are not seeing yet. Because I know for a fact they're going to really, really hate what comes next if Obama gets reelected.
God Bless America and damn the traitors amongst us.
With the Patriotic Act and NDAA 2012 in place, they can legally (sort of) do anything they please now and there is no stopping them. My fear is that if Obama is worried about losing in November, we are going to see some sort of attack that will be the trigger for Marshall Law and the "postponement" of the elections.
The vote for the U.N. Small Arms Treaty is tomorrow, the result of that is going to be very telling. Hillary is going to sign it and Obama is going to push hard to get the Senate to approve it. If they do, we can kiss America goodbye because they will bring U.N. troops here to confiscate our weapons.
The deeper one looks into this, the harder it is to be optimistic. I am looking forward to the next few days.
I also agree with the viewpoint that there are lots of blind people out there. Lots. I'm with you, I just don't understand it. Never have, never will.
As for letting the cat out of the bag too early? I'm currently in a quandary about that. First thought being they let it out of the bag because they are ready, as you've said. But then a little voice keeps hollering in my right ear that, no, Obama just made a huge boo-boo, got himself wrapped up in his own ego and misspoke and that's it. Why do I think that?
Well, first off, we'll both agree the man is an egomaniac. No question about it. He simply doesn't think he has any flaws, particularly in his ideological thinking. Secondly, he believes he is the master of the English language. Just watch and see how he plays to the audience appropriately, depending on what kind of folks are in attendance. In the 2008 race, he skirted around the truth about "hope" and "change" and all of that, using some clever machinations of the English language. And many, many, many voters out there flat out didn't catch on to what he actually meant ...
I also agree with the viewpoint that there are lots of blind people out there. Lots. I'm with you, I just don't understand it. Never have, never will.
As for letting the cat out of the bag too early? I'm currently in a quandary about that. First thought being they let it out of the bag because they are ready, as you've said. But then a little voice keeps hollering in my right ear that, no, Obama just made a huge boo-boo, got himself wrapped up in his own ego and misspoke and that's it. Why do I think that?
Well, first off, we'll both agree the man is an egomaniac. No question about it. He simply doesn't think he has any flaws, particularly in his ideological thinking. Secondly, he believes he is the master of the English language. Just watch and see how he plays to the audience appropriately, depending on what kind of folks are in attendance. In the 2008 race, he skirted around the truth about "hope" and "change" and all of that, using some clever machinations of the English language. And many, many, many voters out there flat out didn't catch on to what he actually meant when he talked about this "fundamental change" in America. And he had a grin on his puss every time he talked that way, as I recall.
So I think the man got carried away. He was playing to the crowd, once again, and he liked the applause that peppered his paragraphs. And he blew it. At least I hope that's what happened.
Now I get a huge kick out of how his supporters try to counter what he said. "He didn't say that." Yes, he did. "He didn't mean that." Yes, he did. "That's not what he said." Replay the speech -- yes, he did. Verbatim.
How in the world can anybody think that he meant anything else but what he said -- and I'm speaking, of course, of his "You didn't build your business" gaffe. And then, to have people who presumably are college-degreed, even PhD background folks, to have them come out and try to refute what the man said, try to make us appear to be the stupid ones for what he said? It's insulting but, at the same time, totally baffling. I don't get it.
Well, I'm going to be watching the next few days. I hope you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. It will be a pleasure to tell you you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Oh, please be wrong....
Keep the chin up, fingers crossed, and let's see what happens. Have to admit it's not boring anymore. Never thought I'd ever say it, but I wish it was boring again!
As far as slips of the tongue go, even Bush 42 made several references to the N.W.O.. Of course, he routinely made stupid remarks, but I don't think Obama is slipping up. As you say, the MSM is constantly telling us morons (sic) what he actually meant to say. That makes me mad also, but their job is to promote him and cover up the references he makes to topics that are supposed to remain quiet for a while longer. He is constantly giving us little peeks into the way he actually thinks and what he has planned and yet folks just listen to the media explain it away. That baffles me too. How could the American people become so easy to fool?
As far as the U.N. treaty goes, there is supposedly a group of 51 Senators who have aligned to defeat it, IF they feel it's going to interfere with the 2nd amendment. That's the good news. The bad news is that if they pass it and the U.N. later amends the agreement, we are stuck with it without approval by the Senate or anyone else. I believe that's how they are going to make confiscation happen. If Obama is re-elected and the Dems maintain control of the Senate, you may as well get ready for it. The only way to stop it will be if Obama is defeated or if the ...
As far as slips of the tongue go, even Bush 42 made several references to the N.W.O.. Of course, he routinely made stupid remarks, but I don't think Obama is slipping up. As you say, the MSM is constantly telling us morons (sic) what he actually meant to say. That makes me mad also, but their job is to promote him and cover up the references he makes to topics that are supposed to remain quiet for a while longer. He is constantly giving us little peeks into the way he actually thinks and what he has planned and yet folks just listen to the media explain it away. That baffles me too. How could the American people become so easy to fool?
As far as the U.N. treaty goes, there is supposedly a group of 51 Senators who have aligned to defeat it, IF they feel it's going to interfere with the 2nd amendment. That's the good news. The bad news is that if they pass it and the U.N. later amends the agreement, we are stuck with it without approval by the Senate or anyone else. I believe that's how they are going to make confiscation happen. If Obama is re-elected and the Dems maintain control of the Senate, you may as well get ready for it. The only way to stop it will be if Obama is defeated or if the Repubs get the Senate majority. One way or another, they will probably find a way to make it happen in any case. Just the thought the U.N. could tell us who we can sell guns or ammunition to is going way too far, IMHO. As I understand the legaleeze, there is even a loophole whereby if the Senate doesn't vote on it, it automatically becomes law. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if the treasonous Senate majority leader we have refuses to bring it to a vote if he thinks it won't pass.
Again, I hope I am wrong. Very, very wrong. Here's to boring!
I likewise am going to include in my prayers the NRA, which is strongly behind defeat of the U.N. Treaty. They've been a pretty strong force to deal with on many gun issues in the past and they're really good at what they do. So let's hope they do a good job here as well.
And, yes, a toast for boring. Yay boring. Welcome into my home!
0bama simply accelerated the proces and was the first one to give taxpayers stimulus money to the companies to build new plants in China.
Our Government bends over backwards to help China because they have to borrow unimaginable sums of money from them to finance the programs that are the insanity we call a Federal budget.
There is only one way to stop China now. "We the People" have to boycott Walmart and stop buying their products! If you look hard enough, you can find nearly anything you want that is made in America. Yeah, it will cost a little more, but the job you save just might be yours! Walmart is almost single highhandedly destroying America.
Think about this. Walmart alone sells a BILLION dollars a DAY of goods made in China. Want to see more jobs in America? Stop buying the JUNK made in slave labor countries! The politicians all talk about creating jobs but it is up to us to bring manufacturing back to America. You might have to buy a little less, but I promise you that you will feel better about it! You can either buy something disposable and save a few bucks, or you can buy quality that will last, sometimes for generations.
Btw, this little rant is not aimed at you, Marek. It just pisses me off when folks complain about China and yet damn near everything they buy is made there.
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