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Does Hillary Clinton hope Barack Obama will be assassinated?

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  • Czar Saoirse~Socialist Extraordinaire

    No

    Hillary was just stating the fact that other races for the Democratic nominee went well into June. Nobody complained the first time she referenced Robert Kennedy to defend her point. There is no way her statement implied any such thing as hoping Obama is assassinated. To believe otherwise is naive and foolish. I'm so sick of Obama and his ego. Everything is NOT about him.
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  • +3 raves
    Pearlie Czar Ch... May 29, 2008 03:18:14 (edited)
    Pearlie
    Right Chief Cat and GloriaWill- Move on..Lets do some yoga....get the stress out.
    yoga....get the stress out.
  • +3 raves
    Czar Ch... Pearlie May 29, 2008 03:22:51
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB
    That is way cool Pearlie!
  • +7 / -3 raves
    Bill - ... Czar Ch... May 26, 2008 02:13:44
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier
    You are exactly right - You will notice that as soon as Robert Kennedy Jr made his remarks; Obama shut up. It was clearly meant for him to shut his whiny mouth. This synthetic outrage is getting old and boring.
    Yawn
  • +3 / -1 raves
    GloriaWill Bill - ... May 26, 2008 15:33:14
    GloriaWill
    Just fyi. Obama never said anything about this except that he believes that Hillary didn't mean anything by it. Like I said above, he is the LAST one who wants this thought lingering out there.
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    Bill - ... GloriaWill May 26, 2008 16:49:48
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier
    The whole outrage posture on nearly every thing since the beginning of his campaign is driving me nuts now. Just one more reason to vote for anyone else.
  • +5 / -1 raves
    Kiber GloriaWill May 26, 2008 19:41:22 (edited)
    Kiber
    GloriaWill...You're mistaken, within hours of Clinton's comment regarding why she believed staying in the race beyond June 3rd is proved prudent via historical events, Bill Burton, on behalf of Barack Obama, issued this statement regarding Clinton's comments; "Senator Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign,"
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

    Who does Barack Obama think he is that he believes he is the arbiter of what is or is not appropriate for another candidate to say. Obama pulled this ELITIST garbage with comments made by "W" while in Israel. Obama should have shown some decency and kept his ELITIST mouth shut and allowed Clinton to sort through the media madness. Oh wait! Obama is a "NEW kind of politician"...A Marxist hiding in plain site.
  • +2 / -1 raves
    Kat Kiber May 27, 2008 16:12:58 (edited)
    Kat
    The Obama camp was wise and correct to play the whole Hillary gaff thing down.
  • +5 / -1 raves
    Kiber Kat May 27, 2008 16:25:27
    Kiber
    Kat...Obama didn't play down Clinton's comments. Obama jumped up and attempted to slap down Clinton and would have continued had RFK Jr. not have told Obama to shut up and accept that Clinton was merely recounting widely known HISTORIC FACTS.

    Nice attempt at spin but too many people here are too wise to buy your brand of whoha.
  • +2 raves
    toni Kat May 28, 2008 06:53:20
    toni
    Kat you are correct, the rude post from mzchief below is not true anyway. I agree Obama and RFK Jr both handled Hillary's thoughtless remark wisely. Mzchief has cowardly blocked me from correcting her false statements, guess she is not able to have civil debates with Obama supporters...on an "opinion poll". Silly eh?
  • +2 raves
    Pearlie GloriaWill May 29, 2008 03:15:10
    Pearlie
    I agree gloriaWill: Hillary did not mean anything and we should move on.............................
  • +1 raves
    Czar Ch... Pearlie May 29, 2008 03:22:04
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB
    Way past time Pearlie. There are too many polls about this subject. People trying to besmirch Hillary any way they can. Let's get out of here.. lol Off we go..
  • +3 / -2 raves
    Warren ... toni May 26, 2008 15:32:47
    Warren - Novus Ordo Seclorum
    It is especially disturbing when the right wing lunatics have a group called "Recreate 68".

  • +4 / -6 raves
    countsueulaw May 25, 2008 04:02:52
    countsueulaw

    Yes

    47 names of those who died from being “Clintonized”
    1-James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater
    partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in
    solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken
    Starr’s investigation.

    2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was
    murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in
    Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to
    go public with her story of sexual harassment in the
    White House.

    3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and
    colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law
    firm.
    Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

    4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
    Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane
    crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
    reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s
    skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his
    death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly
    of his! willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
    The rest of the people on the plane also died. A
    few days later the air Traffic controller committed
    suicide.

    5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
    Clinton fund raising organization died in a private
    plane crash in July 1992.

    6-Paul Tulley...






































































































































































    47 names of those who died from being “Clintonized”
    > 1-James McDougal - Clinton’s convicted Whitewater
    > partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in
    > solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken
    > Starr’s investigation.
    >
    > 2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was
    > murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in
    > Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to
    > go public with her story of sexual harassment in the
    > White House.
    >
    > 3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and
    > colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law
    > firm.
    > Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
    >
    > 4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC
    > Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane
    > crash. A pathologist close to the investigation
    > reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s
    > skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his
    > death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly
    > of his! willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
    > The rest of the people on the plane also died. A
    > few days later the air Traffic controller committed
    > suicide.
    >
    > 5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the
    > Clinton fund raising organization died in a private
    > plane crash in July 1992.
    >
    > 6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee
    > Political Director found dead in a hotel room in
    > Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a
    > ‘Dear friend and trusted advisor’.
    >
    > 7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November
    > 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the
    > head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day
    > his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped
    > her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey
    > was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
    >
    > 8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial
    > security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car
    > at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s
    > son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton.
    > He allegedly threatened to reveal this information.
    > After he died the files were mysteriously removed from
    > his house.
    >
    > 9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was
    > reported that he had a ‘Black Book’ of people which
    > contained names of influential people who visited
    > prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
    >
    > 10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an
    > apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties
    > to Whitewater.
    >
    > 11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny
    > Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living
    > room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a
    > suicide even though there were several packed
    > suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny
    > Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in
    > the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a
    > possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
    >
    > 12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee
    > of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of
    > his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a
    > gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site
    > of his fiancee.
    >
    > 13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan
    > Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall
    > building January, 1994. His client was a convicted
    > drug distributor.
    >
    > 14-Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for
    > the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena, Arkansas
    > Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot
    > wounds.
    >
    > 15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with
    > Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of
    > a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a
    > suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
    >
    > 16-Paula Grober - Clinton’s speech interpreter for the
    > deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She
    > died in a one car accident.
    >
    > 17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter.
    > Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development
    > Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently in
    > the middle of his investigation.
    >
    > 18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption
    > at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 ‘October
    > Surprise’ was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in
    > his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to
    > Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
    >
    > 19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for
    > Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his
    > Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993.
    > He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
    >
    > 20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked
    > closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death
    > unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude
    > body was found locked in her office at the Department
    > of Commerce.
    >
    > 21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce
    > who gave John Huang special security clearance, died
    > shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
    >
    > 22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National
    > Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with
    > his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr.
    > Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory
    > council personally treated Clinton’s mother,
    > stepfather and brother.
    >
    > 23-Barry Seal -Drug running
    > TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
    >
    > 24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made
    > out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his
    > repair shop.
    > He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
    >
    > 25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty.
    > His death was a purported suicide and his report was
    > never released.
    >
    > 26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser
    > died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
    >
    > 27-Kevin Ives &Don Henry - Known as ‘The boys on the
    > track’ case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled
    > upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A
    > controversial case, the initial report of death said,
    > due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later
    > reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being
    > placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died
    > before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
    >
    > THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE
    > IVES/HENRY CASE:
    >
    > 28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into
    > the back of a truck, 7/88.
    >
    > 29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
    >
    > 30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January
    > 1989.
    >
    > 31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found
    > burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
    >
    > 32-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the
    > Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes’.
    >
    > 33-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the
    > front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
    >
    > 34-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry
    > deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
    >
    > THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
    > 36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
    >
    > 37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
    >
    > 38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
    >
    > 39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
    >
    > 40-Major General William Robertson
    >
    > 41-Col. William Densberger
    >
    > 42-Col. Robert Kelly
    >
    > 43-Spec. Gary Rhodes!
    >
    > 44-Steve Willis
    >
    > 45-Robert Williams
    >
    > 46-Conway LeBleu
    >
    > 47-Todd McKeehan
    >
    (more)
  • +1 / -1 raves
    Anouser... countsu... May 25, 2008 09:27:18
    Anouser
    Excellent information, this really helps with a novel I'm working on.
  • +3 / -2 raves
    goldnchyl countsu... May 26, 2008 17:12:55
    goldnchyl
    I'm an Obama supporter but I would warn any and all to research things before you "buy" them.
  • -3 raves
    tess goldnchyl May 26, 2008 21:08:26
    tess
    I have that is why I will never support Obama.
  • +2 / -1 raves
    toni goldnchyl May 28, 2008 06:54:35
    toni
    I have which is why I will never support Hillary.
  • Mollybdamned American Atheist

    No

    I seriously doubt that. And I am not a Hillary fan. :)
  • +13 / -3 raves
    Mark May 25, 2008 01:19:52
    Mark

    No

    Robert Kennedy Jr. issued the following statement:

    “It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”

    I think that says it all.
  • +5 / -3 raves
    Kat Mark May 25, 2008 04:09:41
    Kat
    It says he wants to squelch this assassination talk as soon as possible, he knows first hand how dangerous it is.
  • +7 / -4 raves
    Bill - ... Kat May 26, 2008 02:15:10 (edited)
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier
    Yawn - mole hills into mountains

    He wanted the idiot to stop whining
  • +4 / -2 raves
    tess Kat May 26, 2008 21:07:49
    tess
    It says what is says. You are reading into it what you want. The same way you are reading into Hillary's comments, what you want them to say. Why are the Obama people so out to divide the dem. party? Uniters, yeah right. LOL
  • +2 / -3 raves
    Bill - ... tess May 26, 2008 22:42:45 (edited)
    Bill - Buffalo Soldier
    Tess: He means - only if you line up, never ask questions, share my outrage over what every I want you to be outraged about, and oooh and ahhhh when I say: Hope - ooooh, Change- ahhhhh
  • +1 raves
    toni tess May 28, 2008 06:57:04
    toni
    you mean like the hoopla about the word "bitter" from the Hillary people? Yes, I agree its all rediculous and both sides are guilty.
  • goldnchyl Mark May 28, 2008 11:44:01
    goldnchyl
    RFK Jr. is and has been a loyal Clinton supporter. Even though its his father she's referencing, his present focus is on getting her into the WH. I'd be interested to know what RFK's brother, who lived through it, thinks.
  • Kat goldnchyl May 29, 2008 00:55:28
    Kat
    The majority of the Kennedys like Ted and Caroline who support Obama most likely are more concerned with Ted's serious illness. The last thing they need is having to cover the thoughtless gaff of a fellow democrat candidate right now.
  • +1 raves
    goldnchyl Kat May 29, 2008 02:10:08 (edited)
    goldnchyl
    True. Though, I'm sure his illness hasn't prevented any opinions in this politically passionate family. I wasn't implying that I'd like them to weigh in on the topic. 'Just wondering about their various perspectives.
  • +11 / -2 raves
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB May 24, 2008 23:49:42 (edited)
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB

    No

    What a ridiculous question. Beyond absurd. Very hard to believe anyone would take it seriously! Robert Kennedy Jr. has already stated that it is a non issue.

    “It is clear from the context that Hillary was invoking a familiar political circumstance in order to support her decision to stay in the race through June. I have heard her make this reference before, also citing her husband's 1992 race, both of which were hard fought through June. I understand how highly charged the atmosphere is, but I think it is a mistake for people to take offense.”
  • +7 / -4 raves
    Mark Czar Ch... May 25, 2008 01:21:33
    Mark
    Sorry Chief-Cat, I didn't read your response before I posted mine.
  • +7 / -2 raves
    Czar Ch... Mark May 25, 2008 01:31:36
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB
    Hey no problem! Good to get the word out! Looks like Bill posted it earlier on this page too.. sometimes redundancy can be a good thing!!
  • +3 / -4 raves
    Kat Czar Ch... May 25, 2008 21:25:23
    Kat
    of course Robert Kennedy junior had to make a comment, it was his dad who was murdered. He knows personally the dangers of such a reckless public statement and needed to quelch it. I doubt he was happy having to deal with Hillary's gaff right now with Ted Kennedy so seriously ill.
  • +1 raves
    goldnchyl Czar Ch... May 29, 2008 02:15:34
    goldnchyl
    "What a ridiculous question. Beyond absurd. Very hard to believe anyone would take it seriously!"

    Chief Cat. You already have taken it very seriously as implied by your answering the question. I see it as serious matter, particularly in conjunction with other similar statements from the Clinton camp. But, in this dimension, this reality, it doesn't matter anyway. The Democratic race is over. Accept it and let's move on together to end the tyrannical rule of our true opponents. The Repugnicans.
  • +2 raves
    Czar Ch... goldnchyl May 29, 2008 02:47:17
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB
    'You already have taken it very seriously as implied by your answering the question.'

    Answering the question in such a way implies that I feel the question has no merit. It doesn't have enough weight for me to take it seriously. I see however that you did and I do concur that it doesn't matter anyway since it had no merit to begin with.
  • +3 raves
    goldnchyl Czar Ch... May 29, 2008 10:53:18 (edited)
    goldnchyl
    Those questions on SH that I find without merit I don't usually answer at all. If I find myself answering a question that, on the surface, seems without merit, I must consider deeper concerns about the issue on my part, otherwise it would be a non-issue unworthy of consideration and surely, participation. But, of course, this is just me.
  • Czar Saoirse~Socialist Extraordinaire

    No

    Hillary was just stating the fact that other races for the Democratic nominee went well into June. Nobody complained the first time she referenced Robert Kennedy to defend her point. There is no way her statement implied any such thing as hoping Obama is assassinated. To believe otherwise is naive and foolish. I'm so sick of Obama and his ego. Everything is NOT about him.
  • +8 / -3 raves
    Czar Ch... Czar Sa... May 25, 2008 15:34:44 (edited)
    Czar Chief Cat ~COB
    Yes SLM.. Obama supporters seem to think the world revolves around their hero. Newsflash.. roughly half of the democratic party doesn't see it that way.. and thinks he is unfit for the job. Tying her statement into Obama is absolutely ludicrous. Had nothing to do with him what so friggin ever..
  • +3 raves
    ....... Czar Ch... May 26, 2008 14:44:36 (edited)
    .......
    moderated...
  • goldnchyl Czar Sa... May 29, 2008 02:23:58
    goldnchyl
    She could have cited the democratic race in 1984 when Mondale took it to the convention against Hart and he and Geraldine Ferraro proceeded to lose the general election to Ronald Reagan. Oh ... ahem ... I see why she might not want to bring that one up.
  • +5 / -7 raves
    John May 24, 2008 23:42:34
    John

    No

    No, but she has really crossed a line and it's time for her to get out of the race before she does anymore damage to her own reputation.
  • +9 raves
    johnboy May 24, 2008 23:27:50
    johnboy

    No

    i dont think so
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