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Do You Think Working at Ground Zero Caused This Guy's Cancer?

SodaHead News 2011/08/01 14:00:00
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Stop me when this story starts to sound absurd. After nearly a decade of fighting, Congress finally passed the 9/11 Victims Compensation Fund in January, providing for health care monitoring and financial aid to workers who became sick after working on the toxic pile of burning materials at Ground Zero.

True story, the bill does not include coverage for cancer. But that's not why Ground Zero worker Edgard Galvis was a bit surprised recently when he finally received a compensation check for his work on the pile – for $0.

According to The New York Post, cancer-stricken Galvis, 51, a Queens native who suffered from sinus problems and throat cancer after months of removing toxic debris from the World Financial Center, was excited to get the check following a court settlement with Merrill Lynch, whose offices he had cleaned.

His settlement was for $10,005, but once his lawyers carved out $2,579 for un-itemized legal expenses, then snatched another 33.3 percent for their fee ($2,124), $352 in fees for the lawyer who referred him and $4,950 for unspecified "liens," there was, literally, nothing left.

Galvin, who is jobless and $30,000 in debt, told the Post he thought the final amount was repayment of the workers' compensation for aid. The father of two lives with his fiancée and her two children and relies on relatives to pay his rent.

In April 2010 he was offered $10,000 to settle from a law firm that warned that going to trial could end up costing him $100,000, so he took the $10K.

"I think they are taking advantage of the ignorance of people such as myself," he said.
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  • Tea in the Harbor 2011/08/01 18:48:57
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    Tea in the Harbor
    +7
    It shouldn't matter, he put his life on the line for his country in a time of national emergency, and now needs help in an emergency of his own.

    If we turn our backs on him and others like him, we just plain suck as a people.

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  • Don Mr. Bean 2011/08/07 00:54:35
    Don
    My grandfather died of cancer 25 years before 9-11 so where is his compensation??
  • Mr. Bean Don 2011/08/07 13:52:37
    Mr. Bean
    That is my point.
  • Don Mr. Bean 2011/08/07 00:53:08
    Don
    But when you do someone should pay.
  • Simi Dave 2011/08/01 16:50:20
    Undecided
    Simi Dave
    +1
    No one can say what caused this man’s cancer. I have no doubt that there were known carcinogens in the smoke, fumes, and debris. But oftentimes cancer is caused from chronic exposure to a carcinogen. And, genetics plays a huge part too. Who knows what gene mutations this guy has that may make him more susceptible to certain cancers?
    As someone who has worked in oncology for nigh on 20 years, I would have a very hard time saying that his cancer was caused by ground zero work in the absence of numerous other people with the same problems, a la a “Love Canal”-type thing.
  • Don Simi Dave 2011/08/07 00:57:22
    Don
    Can you get cancer form folowing trucks and cars on your morning comute and return that eject fumes? IF so we are in big trouble paying for all those folks. Where on where is all the money coming from????
  • Nonstoppolitics 2011/08/01 16:46:23
    Yes
    Nonstoppolitics
    +1
    There's a very strong likelihood. The worst thing that could happen is that we go above and beyond for someone who helped clean up after 9/11.
  • maxlaboy 2011/08/01 16:42:12
    Yes
    maxlaboy
    +2
    Just more injustice done to those who came to assist in our hour of need. Once everyone who worked on or near the pile is dead - that is when the government will say "hmmm looks like the air WAS toxic.. and the dust... Oh Well..."
  • Rusty Shackleford 2011/08/01 16:36:13
    Undecided
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    While it is possible and arguably probable, there is no way to know for sure.
  • maxlaboy Rusty S... 2011/08/01 16:46:05
    maxlaboy
    70% of everyone exposed to the toxins are sick - many with cancer. What will it take - all 250 thousand of them to die? That is the number of exposed workers were are talking about. This includes First Responders, Rescue workers, Recovery workers, Iron Workers, Red Cross, Salvation Army, FEMA, sanitation workers, Verizon workers, Con Ed workers and the people working in the buildings close by.

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and is with a crowd of other ducks - how much proof do you need to BE a duck?
  • Rusty S... maxlaboy 2011/08/01 16:57:56
    Rusty Shackleford
    Are we to assume that if there was no attack, than none of the 250 thousand in question would have gotten cancer?

    SOME of the workers that now have cancer did NOT get cancer from ground zero, that is a fact.
  • maxlaboy Rusty S... 2011/08/01 16:59:30
    maxlaboy
    +1
    better to pay for 1 person who might have gotten cancer anyway than to deny thousands treatment! Many of these people were volunteers. all we are doing is telling our emergency service workers and volunteers to run the other way the next time this happens...
  • Rusty S... maxlaboy 2011/08/01 17:57:12
    Rusty Shackleford
    So you want me to call it a duck even though we don't know it's a duck?
  • COMALite J Rusty S... 2011/08/01 18:39:51 (edited)
    COMALite J
    No, just to not particularly care if a goose gets mixed up with the thousands of ducks, especially if the goose also earned the duck chow by its actions.
  • Rusty S... COMALite J 2011/08/01 18:45:31
    Rusty Shackleford
    I think we settled something here, the truth doesn't matter as much as feeling good about ourselves matters. I think I get it now.

    Quack.
  • COMALite J Rusty S... 2011/08/02 01:31:36
    COMALite J
    Again, read up on civil tort vs. criminal justice. Civil torts are not about absolute proof. Preponderance of the evidence suffices.

    They’re also (supposedly) not about punishment. Criminal justice is for punishment. Civil tort law is for making the injured party whole (financially as if the injury had never happened). Unfortunately, this has been corrupted by the concept of “punitive damages,” which should never have been permitted to exist)
  • Rusty S... COMALite J 2011/08/02 03:30:46
  • COMALite J Rusty S... 2011/08/02 18:18:39 (edited)
    COMALite J
    Cute picture. Now, do you have any comment on my main point? Under civil tort law, which is what’s applicable here, 100% proof is not the goal. 50.0…01% suffices.

    Is it more likely than unlikely that 9/11 caused this man’s cancer? If so, then he qualifies for the damages.
  • Rusty S... COMALite J 2011/08/02 20:13:59
    Rusty Shackleford
    OK OK OK, give him money, but then you can't call him a hero anymore. Agreed?

    Heros don't demand compensation for their good deeds.
  • COMALite J Rusty S... 2011/08/03 06:25:20
    COMALite J
    He’s not asking for compensation for the good deed itself, but for actual damages caused by doing the good deed, especially when it cripples his own ability to provide for his family.
  • Don COMALite J 2011/08/07 01:01:55
    Don
    LIfes a bitch and then you die.
  • maxlaboy Rusty S... 2011/08/01 19:15:19
    maxlaboy
    I am 99.9% sure it is a duck and that is good enough for me. I've lost too many colleagues already...
  • Rusty S... maxlaboy 2011/08/01 19:46:45
    Rusty Shackleford
    Is a hero still a hero if he demands compensation for his actions?
  • maxlaboy Rusty S... 2011/08/01 20:01:39
    maxlaboy
    whoa - it is not compensation in the way you seem to insinuate to have healthcare covered - that is all these people want. And maybe funeral expenses paid. Do you think our military men and women are NOT heroes because THEY get compensation?

    This man in specific however was not a rescue or recovery worker or support volunteer. He was hired to clean the mess up.

    It turned out his employer did not adequately protect him from, nor disclose the extreme toxic nature of his job. Now he is ill. Doesn't he deserve to at the very minimum have his healthcare bills covered?
  • Rusty S... maxlaboy 2011/08/02 10:23:05
    Rusty Shackleford
    MARION, Ohio, Aug. 1 (UPI) -- Two Ohio men who rescued a woman from a burning vehicle are now suing her, saying they suffered permanent and disabling injuries during the rescue.

    woman burning vehicle suing suffered permanent disabling injuries rescue

    From the article:

    "The lawsuit is not unusual -- rescuers sue those they helped more often than people think, legal experts said."


    ARE THESE MEN HEROS?



    http://www.upi.com/Top_News/U...
  • maxlaboy Rusty S... 2011/08/02 10:43:11
    maxlaboy
    now that is a good counter argument! My gut says their initial act was heroic, but to sue the victims is not what is happening with the WTC. No one is suing ME or anyone else who were evacuated from the buildings...

    Good samaritans should have some protection in case of injury though - then this would not happen
  • Don maxlaboy 2011/08/07 01:06:16
    Don
    What does Jesus say about this. Something about laying down ones life for another anyway you should read it it is good.
  • maxlaboy Don 2011/08/08 20:35:37
    maxlaboy
    lacking compassion much?
  • Don maxlaboy 2011/08/07 01:04:29
    Don
    Sue sue sue get rich pay pay pay. it is really all sickening to listen to you why don"t you send him a check for a million I am sure he will thank you.
  • maxlaboy Don 2011/08/08 20:38:21
    maxlaboy
    get rich? how about not being homeless? He is not the only one. So many people who were sent to work down there are not only dying, but are financially ruined and some are facing homelessness. No one is trying to get rich - except the 9/11 compensation lawyers. 210 million paid to 9/11 responders, 400 million to the law firms
  • Don maxlaboy 2011/08/07 00:59:57
    Don
    Well if that is what they want to do it is still a free country. I will help though because it is the right thing to do. Right is right and wrong is wrong.
  • maxlaboy Don 2011/08/08 20:39:08
    maxlaboy
    help the 9/11 responders? Thank you!
  • Don Rusty S... 2011/08/07 00:58:43
    Don
    Wow this was good I could not have said it better.
  • COMALite J Rusty S... 2011/08/01 18:44:29 (edited)
    COMALite J
    Keep in mind that this is civil tort law we’re talking about here, not criminal law. The rules are different. The plaintiffs (note: not prosecutors — there are no prosecutors in civil tort law) do not have to prove guilt on the part of the defendants, beyond reasonable doubt. They only have to show preponderance of evidence of liability (not guilt — one is not found “guilty” in civil court). Oh, and it only takes a majority of the jury, not a unanimous verdict as with criminal justice.
  • Kigan 2011/08/01 16:33:57
    Undecided
    Kigan
    I don't know. I'm no doctor and I don't have access to any test results already available.

    I do know, however, that it is very possible.

    I do have to say, though, that the lawyers disgust me. They represented him and then took every penny of his settlement.
  • Mickeyva 2011/08/01 16:30:17
    Undecided
    Mickeyva
    Most cancers are active years before they are visible for treatment. However I think there does need to be a law in place to keep the lawyer from doing to anyone what they did to him.
  • maxlaboy Mickeyva 2011/08/01 16:47:39
    maxlaboy
    +2
    That is why this is so suspicious and points to 9/11 toxic exposure as the culprit. All these guys with 1 single thing in common, all dying of a handful of RARE cancers that normally appear in OLD AGE... you do the math...
  • Mickeyva maxlaboy 2011/08/01 16:52:55
    Mickeyva
    I agree. But it takes a good Dr. that is willing to work to prove that there is a link. Some don't want to take the time to help their patient fight for aid. They are more concerned with healing the patient, and sadly some with simply making money.
  • maxlaboy Mickeyva 2011/08/01 16:57:53
    maxlaboy
    Actually the post just put out an article stating city officials have declared a link and that was using out of date data... They are keeping it hushed up

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/...
  • Mickeyva maxlaboy 2011/08/01 17:06:09
    Mickeyva
    Then its about time it got out.
  • maxlaboy Mickeyva 2011/08/01 17:27:23
    maxlaboy
    In NYC we have known it for years. Lets see if the post article makes it out of the 5 boroughs...

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