Do you think welfare recipients should have to pass a drug test to receive their tax-payer supported welfare check?

by Rocker6240 Posted 2012/06/12 07:10:35

Related Topics: Welfare, Drug Test, Fair, Drug, Tax, Test

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	YES	365 votes	74%
	NO	97 votes	20%
	UNDECIDED	32 votes	6%

I work in an Industry that requires passing a drug test on a random basis and at the time of being hired. It's only fair they pass a drug test to receive a welfare check , if I got to pass one to give it to them.

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George 2012/06/12 10:04:49

YES

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Any person on this poll that does not support this is either NOT paying into the system OR is a doper living off the system.
Common sense dictates if your a taxpayer paying for this with your hard earned money you simply cant have a problem with wanting to see its not misused or abused and those that benifit are held accountable.
It really is that simple and clear.
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Gordon 2012/06/12 11:03:21

YES

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People using illegal drugs do not deserve to be supported with taxpayer money. Ditto with fornicators, liars, etc.

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Edbert to Gordon 2012/06/12 11:59:27

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Fornicators and liars? Well that takes out 99.99% of elected officials.

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Gordon to Edbert 2012/06/13 02:13:41

And good riddance to them!

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Dion Pr... to Gordon 2012/06/12 13:35:16

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so a person who is un married and have sex or lie should not receive tax payer money? since everyone lies, that would defeat the purpose of the welfare system

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Gordon to Dion Pr... 2012/06/13 02:15:23

Not everybody lies. Why should I be supporting them with my hard earned dollars? I have my own family to provide for.

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Dion Pr... to Gordon 2012/06/13 11:56:26

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EVERY body lies. if you want to convince me that they do not then you are lying to yourself right now. 3 year old children lie. monks lie. a person not disclosing all of the truth for any reason is lying

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Gordon to Dion Pr... 2012/06/13 13:01:06

Did it occur to you that I was referring to people who lie about their unreported incomes in order to get welfare benefits? Or lie about spending welfare money properly? I was not referring to people who tell a cook that their meal was good when it was only so-so. Lying to gain money or profit is not something I care to help people with, nor should be tax dollars be used to abet them.

You sound like a welfare recipient trying to justify your own greed and dishonorable ways. Or do you simply admire such users and abusers?

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Dion Pr... to Gordon 2012/06/13 17:56:10

no it didnt, because you said quote
"People using illegal drugs do not deserve to be supported with taxpayer money. Ditto with fornicators, liars, etc."
you did not specify the type of lie or who the lie benifits.
sorry to burst your bubble on my financial situation Gordon (if that is your real name) but I neither use any type of Gov social services nor do I condone the use of it by anyone who abuses or steals from said services.
your own assertation that I would do either shows that even though you are ignorant to the issue at hand, you will still attempt to justify your nonsense by depricating me in an attempt to deflect the BS about what you now say you were refering to when you spoke of liars

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Average... to Gordon 2012/06/13 16:29:52

Then how do you propose to fire Congress (the "liars")?

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Gordon to Average... 2012/06/13 16:53:33

I don't vote for them if I know that they are lying. Simple attrition would work if voters opted for honesty in their politicians.

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dear•LT13☻ 2012/06/12 10:49:27

YES

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and so should all elected politicians

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Cochise 2012/06/12 10:44:17

YES

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Of course they should. Help should only go to those who need it. It kills me to even think that my hard earned money is going to people to support drug and alcohol habits. If they can enjoy their craft at my expense, they need to get the HELL a job....................

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toots 2012/06/12 10:32:01

YES

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I had to take a drug test in order to get a job and I was over 62 years old.

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Ray the Dog! 2012/06/12 10:28:29

YES

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And why not? Why should the taxpayer's hard earned money be used to keep somebody in a drug induced stupor???

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Xerxes,Phantom of PHAET 2012/06/12 10:25:15

YES

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Easy state's money, play by their rules, no discussion needed

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Lily 2012/06/12 10:17:09

UNDECIDED

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The only reason I'm undecided is, If you require drug testing and the parent(s) fail, the children starve. I don't think it's as simple as yes or no. You have children to consider who will starve because of the adults decision making skills. Maybe those without children should have to test, but not those with.

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Cochise to Lily 2012/06/12 10:45:32

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Good point. I hadn't thought about it that way.

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Lily to Cochise 2012/06/12 10:46:55

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=)

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in vino... to Cochise 2012/06/12 11:49:30

PLEASE READ COMMENT ABOVE

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Gordon to Lily 2012/06/12 11:06:54

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People who use illegal drugs, or are hard drinkers, should have their children removed from their custody. People like that usually make poor quality parents, and set terrible examples.

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Lily to Gordon 2012/06/12 11:10:27

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Not disagreeing with you at all. But for a social system that is already overwhelmed, how often does that happen? Not enough foster parents and care systems, where do you put these children? But the question was about welfare and I am against starving a child for what ever "good" reason.

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Gordon to Lily 2012/06/12 11:17:22

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Those children could be put up for adoption, or placed in church sponsored orphanages. These are just two of many solutions. Church run homes would be more efficient than any government run program.

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Lily to Gordon 2012/06/12 11:24:41

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I would never support putting a child into any religious run home, they are no better than state run homes and priests who rape are never held accountable, they are simply moved to another parish and in this case, home. Religion is a freedom that should be chosen, not shoved down a child throat. But there is no easy solution and there never will be. But again, I would not want a child to starve because parent(s) tested positive for drugs.

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Michael... to Lily 2012/06/12 11:20:43

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Please give us the stat's on starving children in America. I'm 50 and still haven't found any truth in this subject.

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Lily to Michael... 2012/06/12 11:32:26

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Visit an inner-city soup kitchen or homeless shelter. If you don't believe children starve in this country, I have no other response for you.

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Paul to Michael... 2012/06/12 20:22:05

Thanks to our welfare system that does provide to so many people in need, for the majority use their welfare checks to feed their kids, put cloths on their backs, and a roof over their head. These people don't need to be jumping through hoops taking drug tests or proving anything to to the people on their high horses that think they're so much much better.

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betz to Lily 2012/06/12 11:22:49

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I hear what you're saying. Maybe if they fail the children are given to children's services. These poor innocent children should not be made to live with someone who is abusing drugs.

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Lily to betz 2012/06/12 11:33:35

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I agree but the social services are over-whelmed as it is, there is no room. So it goes back to the question at hand. Let children starve because of a parent(s) mistake?

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betz to Lily 2012/06/12 11:38:36

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Or let them stay with drug addicted parents? We must find a way to save these children from a life of crime.

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Lily to betz 2012/06/12 11:40:10

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Therein lies the question, what to do? You starve the parent(s), you starve the kids. Something to think about.

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Paul to betz 2012/06/12 20:31:14

1st thing you need to define "abusing" drugs. Just because a drug test gets failed is not an indication kids are being abused. You people worried about the relatively small welfare checks that generally do get used for what they're intended, putting a kid in the system living in shelters or State provided homes gets very expensive also, and not always best for the kids your think your protecting.

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betz to Paul 2012/06/12 21:36:15

Well hello Paul I don't think we've met. Nice to meet you.
Abusing drugs is using an illegal drug ONCE and especially with money I have given to people in order to eat and survive.
I don't know just how much of the welfare money is used to "enjoy" illegal drugs but anyone with a mind will say ANY amound of money used for this is downright wrong and is money that could have been used for the innocent child.
Quite honestly I could not follow your last sentence but the "you people" certainly left me confident that you did not agree with me.

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Ironhead60 to Lily 2012/06/12 11:27:43

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Are you serious??? The people with children should be the fisrt to take it.....As parents they need to be held accountable for their actions, just like people who are not on welfare take the risk of having their children put in foster care do to their drug habits....!!!
I'm randomly drug tested in my line of work ( tractor trailer operator) for a living...If I fail I don't work....Period!!!....
It's called accountability Lily...!!

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Lily to Ironhead60 2012/06/12 11:35:40

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I know what its called cupcake. If all the children of all the "bad" parents could be taken away and placed in better situations, they would have been already. But since all services are over-whelmed and budgets are cut, not likely. So again, it goes back to the question, let children starve because of a adults mistake? That's just silly. You are holding children to an adult standard. "If I have to, you have to"!

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Ironhead60 to Lily 2012/06/13 00:08:42
Lily to Ironhead60 2012/06/13 11:58:49

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First of all, I'm not politcally affiliated with any party so the democrats are not mine, I'm against slavery in all forms =) Second of all, no child is expendable, not even for your views. I do believe there are too many entitlement programs an there is quite a bit of greed in this country, policies need to be changed but will they be? It all goes back to, punish the children for the adults mistakes? How noble.

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Ironhead60 to Lily 2012/06/13 22:19:56

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Slavery being a part of a political party?...thats a interesting way of putting it ;) ..lol....Okay so I'll meet you half way....What do we do then Lily?

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Lily to Ironhead60 2012/06/16 15:50:41

I honestly, don't know. Almost every problem in america is inter-connected. I guess finding the "root" issue would be the start.

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Ironhead60 to Lily 2012/06/19 14:13:01

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;)

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twocrows to Ironhead60 2012/06/12 13:34:28

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got any ideas on how to go about caring for the children?
I worked in conjunction with DFS for years. the system is overwhelmed. it is underfunded, under staffed and overworked. the children in the system are consistently ignored by their 'care givers' or worse.

so how would your omnipotent self 'save the children' please?

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