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Do You Think the U.S. Should Stop Deporting Young Immigrants? (Obama Does)
SodaHead News
2012/06/15 23:15:45
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Barack Obama made headlines Friday as he stated that his administration will no longer deport young illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. when they were children. His announcement, as expected, was met with part-joy and part-skepticism -- as well as a heckler who constantly kept interrupting the president as he spoke.
"These are young people who study in our schools, they play in our neighborhoods, they're friends with our kids, they pledge allegiance to our flag. They are Americans in their heart, in their minds, in every single way but one: on paper," the president said in his speech Friday morning. But he was also quick to add that this is not a permanent answer. "This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship... It's not a permanent fix," Obama said. Do you think the U.S. should stop deporting young immigrants?
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Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/06/16 01:16:44
Did you graduate from high school because you missed a whole lot of stuff. Go look up what Barney Frank was up too under Clinton, that will explain why we are in this mess.
Sorry, but what you're saying simply doesn't add up. As I said, there must have been extenuating circumstances. Some reason that your daughter was viewed as a higher risk for non-payment or something.
Due to your lack or ignorance of following our conversation I mentioned that my daughter and Husband prepaid. I guess that concept of a woman having a child with a supporting husband is beyond your liberal mental conception.
As for your "free loading Mexicans" comment (of course you're not a bigot!), hospital administrators at two Texas hospitals that cater to low-income mothers assert that illegal immigrants who give birth in their facilities "have a better record of paying their bills than low income Americans do". http://www.snopes.com/politic...
And yes, I saw you repeatedly mentioning that your daughter pre-paid. That's part of why your story makes no sense. According to you, she pre-paid, was owed a refund, but then had more money demanded of her while in the hospital, then was held hostage while her baby was essentially held for ransom until she paid up. You were either at the shadiest hospital in the country, or something happened that legitimately motivated the hospital's behavior. You tell me, but as of now, it's all very vague and dubious sounding.
And talk about ignorance and not following a conversation - I just said that "my non-Hispanic wife just gave birth to our baby". Perhaps it's too large of a ...
As for your "free loading Mexicans" comment (of course you're not a bigot!), hospital administrators at two Texas hospitals that cater to low-income mothers assert that illegal immigrants who give birth in their facilities "have a better record of paying their bills than low income Americans do". http://www.snopes.com/politic...
And yes, I saw you repeatedly mentioning that your daughter pre-paid. That's part of why your story makes no sense. According to you, she pre-paid, was owed a refund, but then had more money demanded of her while in the hospital, then was held hostage while her baby was essentially held for ransom until she paid up. You were either at the shadiest hospital in the country, or something happened that legitimately motivated the hospital's behavior. You tell me, but as of now, it's all very vague and dubious sounding.
And talk about ignorance and not following a conversation - I just said that "my non-Hispanic wife just gave birth to our baby". Perhaps it's too large of a mental leap for you to make, but that would mean I am the "supporting husband" in this equation. Clearly, I can conceive of a concept that I am an active example of.
Either way, the life of an illegal immigrant is not an easy one. They are not being handed everything as so many seem to think. They are working horrible, low end jobs, making so little money that they probably would not need to pay taxes even if they were legal. They are living in tiny spaces, sometimes multiple people in one room, sharing a bed and a living space. And they spend their whole lives living in fear of deportation to their home countries which are often many times worse the the absolute worse situation in America.
On another note, while these people typically do not pay any taxes (and as I stated, many would be in such a low imcome category that they really wouldnt have to anyway) they do buy American items, contributing income tax and purchasing goods from stores typically run by Americans. In this way, they are actually helping the American economy.
And btw, I believe they need to buy these fake identities and social security numbers. While some "circles" might, most do not.
Have you ever read the laws concerning visitors to Mexico, you need to read their immigration laws. Why do you people so carelessly disobey our laws?
I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA have you been to San Diego? You should see all the people running across the freeway!
FUTURE OBAMA VOTES That's why He wants them here! BAD NEWS IS: Terrorist, murderers Rapist and worst are also flooding in and guess what AMERICA!
ALL OF YOU WHO PAY TAXES
Will Pay for their:
FREE WELFARE
FREE COLLEGE
FREE HEALTHCARE
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THANKS OBAMA FOR NOTHING!
Give the CEO's of Oscar Meyer, Purdue Poultry, and the other predatory employers involved in this criminal network some serious penalties for committing felonies and creating this problem for their own personal profit and we might get somewhere. How much more do taxpayers have to pay to subsidize these ongoing criminal enterprises? I think any company with more than 10% of their staff being illegals should be liquidated and their assets used to clean up the mess they made while their executives serve lengthy prison sentences.
Corporations are not granted any "right" to exist under our constitution, a corporate charter is a privilege and those who hire illegally have no right to that privilege.
Illegal workers exist only because American corporations profit from them, make prosecution and penalties for them strong and certain enough to remove that incentive and the problem will be resolved. Nothing else that is done will matter, the corporations violate the law because it's a crime that pays in the billions.