Do you think the newly passed health care tax will increase Reblicans chances for taking back the White House?
peggy
2012/06/29 01:34:36
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Obama just lost the election with this new tax, people can't afford. It has been estimated that instead of 33 cents on the dollar we will now be paying 52 cents for taxes for every dollar earned. NICE HUH




















Economist say the largest tax increase in history.
As clinton said of Obamas words "Just words"
NOBAMA 2012
I have read Justice Roberts' position/decision ruling completely, Took me a week to get through it but the one thing that was very clear, The Affordable Healthcare Act is NOT a tax. It is exactly like automobile insurance. It is a mandate that if we own a vehicle that we have insurance. We are told this how? As a mandated law. (and by the way it is a Federal Law that put the mandate into each state how? The CDL law mandates that all truck drivers or persons with vehicles for hire be insured -- Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution)
The same is applied to the Affordable Healthecare Act. It was enacted under the Interstate Commerce Clause via the already existing acceptance that medical insurance can be regulated AND collected by the Federal Government ??? MEDICARE/MEDICAID set the president for allowing the establishment of regulations as I mentioned.
The Affordable Healthcare Act imposes a penalty for NOT buying insurance, which Justice Roberts applied the current taxing authority of congress, from the US Constitution as well. His logic is that the mandate for persons to buy health insurance is that the individual is legally responsible for his own health care. As such, t...
I have read Justice Roberts' position/decision ruling completely, Took me a week to get through it but the one thing that was very clear, The Affordable Healthcare Act is NOT a tax. It is exactly like automobile insurance. It is a mandate that if we own a vehicle that we have insurance. We are told this how? As a mandated law. (and by the way it is a Federal Law that put the mandate into each state how? The CDL law mandates that all truck drivers or persons with vehicles for hire be insured -- Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution)
The same is applied to the Affordable Healthecare Act. It was enacted under the Interstate Commerce Clause via the already existing acceptance that medical insurance can be regulated AND collected by the Federal Government ??? MEDICARE/MEDICAID set the president for allowing the establishment of regulations as I mentioned.
The Affordable Healthcare Act imposes a penalty for NOT buying insurance, which Justice Roberts applied the current taxing authority of congress, from the US Constitution as well. His logic is that the mandate for persons to buy health insurance is that the individual is legally responsible for his own health care. As such, the logic follows from both the mandate for automotive liability/comprehensive/unins... motorist insurance and the Medicare/Medicaid programs that a mandate for the individual to buy his own insurance is within the power of congress to enact. Not having it becomes a penalty "tax" against that individual.
Really, I don't see the problem with people not seeing this plainly. It was never a question that the law was indeed constitutional. I'm just surprised it was Justice Roberts that wrote the decision and was the tipper in the vote. That surprised me completely.
Those that CAN afford to buy insurance do. Those that cannot are given a sliding scale upto and including no charge Medicaid like Very much like what California does and like Massechutes does.
Before you and Soupmans spread anymore misinformation and mislead more people I suggest you study the bill and the reality of those that benefit from the AHCA. Of course the middle class and the working poor are already adversely being affected by the Republican Party and the governors who refuse to adopt the additions to the Medicaid programs the AHCA has built into it.
Sad that you and your types are so bent upon harming other citizens in such a cruel way.
And it Romney somehow takes the WH, explain to us how it might be one ounce better!
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For all the Obama-lovers out there, many of whom are my family and friends, how do you like him now? Actually, I’m sure you haven’t changed your perspective and are reveling today but I hope you, no I know you will, eventually come to understand what happened today. The World’s Largest Tax Increase ever will be imposed on the U.S. citizenry.
The only way Obamacare was ruled legal by the SCOTUS was that it be recognized as a TAX! Obama ran as an anti-tax candidate and you believed him and now he will forever be known as the one who brought the largest tax ever imposed on a people of any country and sadly it’s ours. You will pay for this one route or another. You want to buy the Federal Health Insurance go ahead…spend the money (oh and if you don’t know it may cost a little at first but costs increase steadily thereafter, per the Congressional Business Office (CBO) report on the program) and buy the coverage. Don’t want the coverage, don’t think you need insurance right now (...
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For all the Obama-lovers out there, many of whom are my family and friends, how do you like him now? Actually, I’m sure you haven’t changed your perspective and are reveling today but I hope you, no I know you will, eventually come to understand what happened today. The World’s Largest Tax Increase ever will be imposed on the U.S. citizenry.
The only way Obamacare was ruled legal by the SCOTUS was that it be recognized as a TAX! Obama ran as an anti-tax candidate and you believed him and now he will forever be known as the one who brought the largest tax ever imposed on a people of any country and sadly it’s ours. You will pay for this one route or another. You want to buy the Federal Health Insurance go ahead…spend the money (oh and if you don’t know it may cost a little at first but costs increase steadily thereafter, per the Congressional Business Office (CBO) report on the program) and buy the coverage. Don’t want the coverage, don’t think you need insurance right now (and many don’t want insurance right now because they believe they are in good health) you will pay a penalty though a very high tax on your tax return. You will pay if you do and you will pay if you don’t.
Also, according to the Congressional Budget Office report, the imposition of this law will result in the loss of more than 700,000 American jobs and that will be a very quick result to this program. Now considering that the Constitution was violated by Obama to make hundred’s of thousands of illegal immigrants now legal immigrants and can work in American jobs, where are the 700, 000 legal Americans going to replace their jobs. And, this in an absolutely awful national economy. Again, this is the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) stating this job loss, it’s not rhetoric.
Also, in the CBO report, the poor are going to have less access to health care, in fact they won’t have health care they will only have emergency room treatment. Those who will have health insurance will now be able to get health care that includes preventative measures and so much more. The “great divide” between the two tiers has been widened by this ruling. How does that make you feel Obama supporters? Read the CBO report and educate your mind rather than working from your emotions.
Now how is this opportunity for future regulations in this country going to sit with my Obama-lover friends? This decision now allows Congress, or any other government entity (can you say New York Mayor Gov. Michael Bloomberg) to issue mandates for anything they want to impose because legal precedence has been set that will apply to future legal interpretations. So what will you think when a Congressional majority mandates that everyone must own a gun or pay a tax if you don’t? How about everyone must eat seafood at least once a week and if you don’t or can’t because of allergies you will be taxed for your non-compliance. Don’t like diesel pickups? Hmmm… you could be forced to own one if it is mandated. Don’t like tiny two-person electric cars the size of a golf cart? Then get ready to pay a tax if such vehicles become mandated. Like air conditioning? Maybe not for too much longer. So I know you think this is a stretch but again the legal precedence has been set. Give it time.
Good luck with the future my dear friends of Obama if this never changes from the legislative actions of a future administration. America as we have known it will be no more…and yes there are a lot of people who can’t wait for that change and to become Government Sheepeople. Not me however, and not a lot of other people either.
Anyway the republicans were for the mandate before they were against it. So very typical of republicans.