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Do you think the newly passed health care tax will increase Reblicans chances for taking back the White House?

peggy 2012/06/29 01:34:36
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Obama just lost the election with this new tax, people can't afford. It has been estimated that instead of 33 cents on the dollar we will now be paying 52 cents for taxes for every dollar earned. NICE HUH
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  • MarinerFH 2012/06/29 01:45:37
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    The true impact will not hit until well after the election. This will hurt Obama's base worst of all. But they won't realize until it's too late.

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  • mustangluver 2012/08/16 02:43:50
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    mustangluver
    Nothing BO does or says will sway his zombies. Ppl that cannot afford healthcare will be forced to buy it, now that makes a lot of sense.
    BOOOOOOOOO
  • johnc 2012/08/15 20:05:51
    Goodbye OBamanATION
    johnc
    "ah will not raise taxes on the middle class" words from Obama. SC says it is a tax
    Economist say the largest tax increase in history.

    As clinton said of Obamas words "Just words"

    NOBAMA 2012
  • HOMBRE 2012/07/10 22:24:47
    Goodbye OBamanATION
    HOMBRE
    +1
    If repubs dont win this time they never will.
  • peggy HOMBRE 2012/07/25 15:59:42
    peggy
    Agree. Totally. We will be a dictatorship. Unbelievable what this man has done to this country in 3 years. His hope and change is a joke.
  • sjalan 2012/07/10 05:18:47
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    sjalan
    A. The Health Care Act is not a TAX. The PENALTY is treated as a collectable item on your income tax, But the program itself is NOT A TAX.
  • peggy sjalan 2012/07/10 21:13:38
    peggy
    How is it paid for if its not a tax? Don't rosey it up and tell me its not a tax or a penalty if I don't want it. I am being forced to buy Obama care, they just said on CNN that there will be no private insurance we will all have Obama care. He lied to the American people when he said we could keep our own insurance. He is a dictator. IT IS A TAX! IT IS COMMUNISM! WAKE THE HELL UP!
  • sjalan peggy 2012/07/11 03:32:51
    sjalan
    Peggy, You need to calm down, You'll blow a cork and need the Affordable Care Act to treat you.

    I have read Justice Roberts' position/decision ruling completely, Took me a week to get through it but the one thing that was very clear, The Affordable Healthcare Act is NOT a tax. It is exactly like automobile insurance. It is a mandate that if we own a vehicle that we have insurance. We are told this how? As a mandated law. (and by the way it is a Federal Law that put the mandate into each state how? The CDL law mandates that all truck drivers or persons with vehicles for hire be insured -- Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution)

    The same is applied to the Affordable Healthecare Act. It was enacted under the Interstate Commerce Clause via the already existing acceptance that medical insurance can be regulated AND collected by the Federal Government ??? MEDICARE/MEDICAID set the president for allowing the establishment of regulations as I mentioned.

    The Affordable Healthcare Act imposes a penalty for NOT buying insurance, which Justice Roberts applied the current taxing authority of congress, from the US Constitution as well. His logic is that the mandate for persons to buy health insurance is that the individual is legally responsible for his own health care. As such, t...

    Peggy, You need to calm down, You'll blow a cork and need the Affordable Care Act to treat you.

    I have read Justice Roberts' position/decision ruling completely, Took me a week to get through it but the one thing that was very clear, The Affordable Healthcare Act is NOT a tax. It is exactly like automobile insurance. It is a mandate that if we own a vehicle that we have insurance. We are told this how? As a mandated law. (and by the way it is a Federal Law that put the mandate into each state how? The CDL law mandates that all truck drivers or persons with vehicles for hire be insured -- Interstate Commerce Clause in the US Constitution)

    The same is applied to the Affordable Healthecare Act. It was enacted under the Interstate Commerce Clause via the already existing acceptance that medical insurance can be regulated AND collected by the Federal Government ??? MEDICARE/MEDICAID set the president for allowing the establishment of regulations as I mentioned.

    The Affordable Healthcare Act imposes a penalty for NOT buying insurance, which Justice Roberts applied the current taxing authority of congress, from the US Constitution as well. His logic is that the mandate for persons to buy health insurance is that the individual is legally responsible for his own health care. As such, the logic follows from both the mandate for automotive liability/comprehensive/unins... motorist insurance and the Medicare/Medicaid programs that a mandate for the individual to buy his own insurance is within the power of congress to enact. Not having it becomes a penalty "tax" against that individual.

    Really, I don't see the problem with people not seeing this plainly. It was never a question that the law was indeed constitutional. I'm just surprised it was Justice Roberts that wrote the decision and was the tipper in the vote. That surprised me completely.
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  • peggy sjalan 2012/07/15 02:18:53
    peggy
    If you can't afford I insurance how can you afford the dam penalty and tax. Too many people out of work because of this demon. He has destroyed this country. I have never ever hated anyone before Obama took office. EVIL is his name.
  • sjalan peggy 2012/07/15 02:56:04
    sjalan
    You have obviously not read the bill nor who the penalty and tax will be assessed against. You are BADLY misinformed and sadly misled.

    Those that CAN afford to buy insurance do. Those that cannot are given a sliding scale upto and including no charge Medicaid like Very much like what California does and like Massechutes does.

    Before you and Soupmans spread anymore misinformation and mislead more people I suggest you study the bill and the reality of those that benefit from the AHCA. Of course the middle class and the working poor are already adversely being affected by the Republican Party and the governors who refuse to adopt the additions to the Medicaid programs the AHCA has built into it.

    Sad that you and your types are so bent upon harming other citizens in such a cruel way.
  • peggy sjalan 2012/07/15 02:25:47
    peggy
    Read Soup mans comment below. The no tax president you bow to is a liar and a thief.
  • Striker 2012/07/01 23:22:41
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    Striker
    NOPE.
    And it Romney somehow takes the WH, explain to us how it might be one ounce better!
  • peggy Striker 2012/07/10 21:17:25
    peggy
    I don't know. Vote for the communist in the WH then. If your so wrapped up in Obama that you can't see any hope at all in anyone else then make your mark for the commie. Hop too magoo
  • Striker peggy 2012/07/10 22:20:58
    Striker
    +1
    Libertarians don't support Obama. We don't want him any more than you do. You should know at least that much about me by now.
  • peggy Striker 2012/07/15 02:22:31
    peggy
    Ron Paul is done for. I don't want to vote for a mormon either but I sure ain't throwing my vote away. Obama will get in for another round
  • Striker peggy 2012/07/15 02:30:30
    Striker
    Wrong.
  • peggy Striker 2012/07/23 06:23:42
    peggy
    +1
    I guess we will have to leave it at that...I just despise Obama do much I hate the thought of him getting back in.
  • Striker peggy 2012/07/23 13:52:33
    Striker
    I despise Obama too. We need better, not more of the same. It's not about the Mormon, it's about the socialism. Romney's huge play for killing the entire insurance industry and controlling everyone's choices is anti-free market and anti-capitalism. America must return to real Liberty, not continue the status quo. That is all the reason we need for turning to the Libertarian creed, so I'll be voting Paul IF, because that tells the RINO Party to get a brain, or Gary Johnson whose proven abilities to administer and limit government hold him high.
  • Soup Man 2012/06/29 02:46:58
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    For all the Obama-lovers out there, many of whom are my family and friends, how do you like him now? Actually, I’m sure you haven’t changed your perspective and are reveling today but I hope you, no I know you will, eventually come to understand what happened today. The World’s Largest Tax Increase ever will be imposed on the U.S. citizenry.

    The only way Obamacare was ruled legal by the SCOTUS was that it be recognized as a TAX! Obama ran as an anti-tax candidate and you believed him and now he will forever be known as the one who brought the largest tax ever imposed on a people of any country and sadly it’s ours. You will pay for this one route or another. You want to buy the Federal Health Insurance go ahead…spend the money (oh and if you don’t know it may cost a little at first but costs increase steadily thereafter, per the Congressional Business Office (CBO) report on the program) and buy the coverage. Don’t want the coverage, don’t think you need insurance right now (...







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    For all the Obama-lovers out there, many of whom are my family and friends, how do you like him now? Actually, I’m sure you haven’t changed your perspective and are reveling today but I hope you, no I know you will, eventually come to understand what happened today. The World’s Largest Tax Increase ever will be imposed on the U.S. citizenry.

    The only way Obamacare was ruled legal by the SCOTUS was that it be recognized as a TAX! Obama ran as an anti-tax candidate and you believed him and now he will forever be known as the one who brought the largest tax ever imposed on a people of any country and sadly it’s ours. You will pay for this one route or another. You want to buy the Federal Health Insurance go ahead…spend the money (oh and if you don’t know it may cost a little at first but costs increase steadily thereafter, per the Congressional Business Office (CBO) report on the program) and buy the coverage. Don’t want the coverage, don’t think you need insurance right now (and many don’t want insurance right now because they believe they are in good health) you will pay a penalty though a very high tax on your tax return. You will pay if you do and you will pay if you don’t.

    Also, according to the Congressional Budget Office report, the imposition of this law will result in the loss of more than 700,000 American jobs and that will be a very quick result to this program. Now considering that the Constitution was violated by Obama to make hundred’s of thousands of illegal immigrants now legal immigrants and can work in American jobs, where are the 700, 000 legal Americans going to replace their jobs. And, this in an absolutely awful national economy. Again, this is the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) stating this job loss, it’s not rhetoric.

    Also, in the CBO report, the poor are going to have less access to health care, in fact they won’t have health care they will only have emergency room treatment. Those who will have health insurance will now be able to get health care that includes preventative measures and so much more. The “great divide” between the two tiers has been widened by this ruling. How does that make you feel Obama supporters? Read the CBO report and educate your mind rather than working from your emotions.

    Now how is this opportunity for future regulations in this country going to sit with my Obama-lover friends? This decision now allows Congress, or any other government entity (can you say New York Mayor Gov. Michael Bloomberg) to issue mandates for anything they want to impose because legal precedence has been set that will apply to future legal interpretations. So what will you think when a Congressional majority mandates that everyone must own a gun or pay a tax if you don’t? How about everyone must eat seafood at least once a week and if you don’t or can’t because of allergies you will be taxed for your non-compliance. Don’t like diesel pickups? Hmmm… you could be forced to own one if it is mandated. Don’t like tiny two-person electric cars the size of a golf cart? Then get ready to pay a tax if such vehicles become mandated. Like air conditioning? Maybe not for too much longer. So I know you think this is a stretch but again the legal precedence has been set. Give it time.

    Good luck with the future my dear friends of Obama if this never changes from the legislative actions of a future administration. America as we have known it will be no more…and yes there are a lot of people who can’t wait for that change and to become Government Sheepeople. Not me however, and not a lot of other people either.
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  • peggy Soup Man 2012/06/29 03:16:52
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    Love it thank you for your comment. I hope the this generation gets their fill of this dictators hope and change because none of them will ever know what real freedom is. What the red stripes on our flag stand for. God have mercy on us. We should all take note of this day.
  • Scott 2012/06/29 02:39:23
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    Scott
    +1
    WTF is a Reblican? A red-neck pelican?
  • peggy Scott 2012/06/29 03:08:11
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    +1
    Lol I know ...sorry. Haha. REPUBLICAN. LOL!!!!
  • cm Scott 2012/06/29 05:22:39
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    LOL
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    ☆The Rock☆ * AFCL* The Sheriff!!
    +4
    This country is heading toward disaster..I am not too optimistic!!
  • peggy ☆The Ro... 2012/06/29 04:35:08
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    +1
    For sure. Obama has to go or were going socialist ...possibly communist. Even if Romney gets in it will take years to undo what he has done to us.
  • Striker peggy 2012/07/01 23:26:51
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    +1
    We're ALREADY socialist, have been for years, then Obama came to play and finished us off.
  • peggy Striker 2012/07/07 02:43:09
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    Agreed...sadly
  • ehrhornp 2012/06/29 01:46:11
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    Good bye Mitt, was great listening to your lies. If all taxes were like this tax. You phony conservatives should be jumping for joy. There is no enforcement provision in the bill. That is right. If it is not paid, there is no enforcement provision to force you to pay. This is thanks to the liberals in congress who were against this mandatory provision. So they weakened the penalty down to petty cash status and then they eliminated any enforcement provision in the law. I have always said that liberals are the true conservatives.
  • peggy ehrhornp 2012/06/29 03:25:06
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    Yes there is. They said you will be fined. That's why they are increasing taxes. If you don't work you still have to pay the 900.00 a month. Petty cash are you kidding that's over 52-54 cents on every dollar you earn to go to Obama care. You need to wake up.
  • ehrhornp peggy 2012/06/29 16:52:31
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    Rachel Meadow has had a number of segments on this. Shame you only listen to far right propaganda. She showed the areas in the bill that states there are to be no enforcement. The IRS cannot garnish your wages, etc. The fine was reduced a number of times so that it is a very small amount, at least compared to what was first offered.

    Anyway the republicans were for the mandate before they were against it. So very typical of republicans.
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/02 08:14:14
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    Now she is ethical and and unbiased.....not!
  • ehrhornp shadow76 2012/07/02 16:23:06
    ehrhornp
    Well you should listen to her and then say exactly where she is wrong. I challenge you. Show exactly how she is not ethical and how she is biased.
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/03 08:33:08
    shadow76
    +1
    I can't get past all that raging hate!
  • ehrhornp shadow76 2012/07/03 15:06:58
    ehrhornp
    You have her mixed up with Fox and rush. lol She has no hate. A lot of hatred is directed towards her because she makes her case.
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/04 09:03:42
    shadow76
    +1
    I have never heard such raging hate come out of someones mouth as came out of hers.
  • ehrhornp shadow76 2012/07/04 16:00:34
    ehrhornp
    Can you give a couple examples of her hatred?
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/04 16:17:23
    shadow76
    +1
    During the Owebamacare debate When Stupak acted like he would vote against it. Like I said, I have not heard such hate come out out of a person. Let alone stuff about Bush.
  • ehrhornp shadow76 2012/07/04 16:20:51 (edited)
    ehrhornp
    Who is stupak? what stuff about Bush?
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/05 04:00:10
    shadow76
    +1
    How can you discuss this when you don't know anything?
  • ehrhornp shadow76 2012/07/05 20:48:50
    ehrhornp
    I don't know. Perhaps you can enlighten me? Or is tossing insults easier and requires no knowledge?
  • shadow76 ehrhornp 2012/07/06 08:21:55
    shadow76
    +1
    How can we discuss anything if you don't even know Congresspeoples names? He was heavy in the debate about healthcare.

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