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Do you think the minimum wage should be higher?

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  • Dan 2012/07/10 04:55:11
    No
    Dan
    +9
    The economy determines wages, not government. When the government interjects and makes adjustments the economy reacts with its own adjustments.

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  • JDLogan Prime T... 2012/07/29 00:37:05
    JDLogan
    If convenience store clerks were making $15 an hour, then certainly you could not live on $15 an hour, because the price of everything would be nearly double what it is now. You see, skilled workers, educated workers, experienced workers all expect to make more than a convenience store clerk, and raising their wages will drive inflation to the point where $15 an hour will only draw high school students, bored retired people and the desperate, and they will not make a living wage out of it.
  • Prime T... JDLogan 2012/07/29 00:43:51
    Prime Time Lime
    The problen that is occuring is the wages of all people are not going up with the cost of living index.Even when we get raises they are so minute that everyone is actually earning less then they did a decade ago,and much less than they did a few decades ago.Just to meet the cost of living the minumun wage should at least be $15+ per hour.
  • JDLogan Prime T... 2012/07/29 17:58:29
    JDLogan
    You just don't get it, there is no way for any economy to provide ONLY living wage jobs. There will always be poor, for a variety of reasons.
  • Smiji 2012/07/10 13:57:12
    No
    Smiji
    +3
    There would be no jobs then. Plus if it goes up all the current employees will suffer... no raises, no promotions.... companies in bankrupt... everyone will suffer....
  • Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2012/07/10 13:42:37
    No
    Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    +4
    NO!!!!!!!!! The minimum wage should be 0.
  • Laura Lovegood 2012/07/10 13:25:15
  • Waldorf 2012/07/10 13:17:03
    No
    Waldorf
    +3
    Not at a time when it would put pressure on job openings.
  • cmdrbnd007 2012/07/10 12:59:58
    No
    cmdrbnd007
    +6
    Nope. All raising minimum wage does is cause the price of everything else to rise also. There is no net gain with the raise.
  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2012/07/10 12:47:55
    Yes
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    +2
    at least $10
  • Sport_G... John Ga... 2012/07/10 13:19:27
    Sport_Geoff
    +3
    I understand that the current minimum wage is low and it would be very hard for someone to support a family on it but minimum wage is there for a starting point. Please explain how there would be a gain if minimum wage was increased to $10.00 / hr. $7.00 value meals would go up to $9.00...the cost of everything produced by minimum wage labor would go up so there would be no net gain. More money on a paycheck would merely end up being spent on the increased cost of goods. That's why it's important for people to have more than minimum skills and education. Educated people are having a hard time finding employment but their chances are better than those who drop out in the 9th grade and can't spell CAT if you spot them the "C" and the "T". Employers pay FUTA, SUTA, and W.C. premiums based upon "gross payroll" so increasing the minimum wage drives up their cost and ultimately ends up reducing the numbers of workers and requiring the remaining workers to "produce more" . Many people that rant against the profit businesses make don't understand the difference between "gross" and "net" profit...I do. I also think that CEO's who make 50 - 100 million a year could reduce their salaries to 25 million and use the money to pay better wages in many cases.

    In business there has to ...
    I understand that the current minimum wage is low and it would be very hard for someone to support a family on it but minimum wage is there for a starting point. Please explain how there would be a gain if minimum wage was increased to $10.00 / hr. $7.00 value meals would go up to $9.00...the cost of everything produced by minimum wage labor would go up so there would be no net gain. More money on a paycheck would merely end up being spent on the increased cost of goods. That's why it's important for people to have more than minimum skills and education. Educated people are having a hard time finding employment but their chances are better than those who drop out in the 9th grade and can't spell CAT if you spot them the "C" and the "T". Employers pay FUTA, SUTA, and W.C. premiums based upon "gross payroll" so increasing the minimum wage drives up their cost and ultimately ends up reducing the numbers of workers and requiring the remaining workers to "produce more" . Many people that rant against the profit businesses make don't understand the difference between "gross" and "net" profit...I do. I also think that CEO's who make 50 - 100 million a year could reduce their salaries to 25 million and use the money to pay better wages in many cases.

    In business there has to be give and take on both sides by management and labor and over the past decade or two both have dug their heels in and only wanted to "take". I know this as I have over 15 years experience in employee placement in large manufacturing facilities. Once I got management to sit down with labor and each side to look at the realities of the numbers we were able to implement programs that resulted in better wages and in increased production and quality. It's not rocket science but it is very hard to get the two groups to come together and actually listen to each other.
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  • John Ga... Sport_G... 2012/07/11 00:16:43
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    I could go off on a long radical rant, explaining why money isn't even real anymore,
    http://webstation19.8k.com/mo...
    Money is a medium for bartering, that is why shiney stones were the first monies. .... http://webstation19.8k.com/mo...
    As for our education system,
    webstation19.8k.com/EDU.HTM
    As far as 9th grade edu and college grad's the difference has shunk to say the least...
    webstation19.8k.com/EDU2.HTM

    I proposed in 1995 that As part of education reform, scaling minimum wage to education level.

    Well, here is where I'll start picking up labels. Our "system" tells us as kids that anyone can do anything and that rates right up there with the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. The truth is and always has been, that half the jobs out there don't pay a real living wage. These jobs usually don't require a college education and are usually filled by people who are working there way through college. Half these people work those same types of jobs the rest of their lives. The country is currently boasting 90% of kids going to college.

    Why? so half of them can work minimum wage and spend their lives paying for an education that gave them nothing in return. I do say nothing. I have spent all of my life in an around college towns and the level of education has dropped to a pitiful low. "The peo...
























    I could go off on a long radical rant, explaining why money isn't even real anymore,
    http://webstation19.8k.com/mo...
    Money is a medium for bartering, that is why shiney stones were the first monies. .... http://webstation19.8k.com/mo...
    As for our education system,
    webstation19.8k.com/EDU.HTM
    As far as 9th grade edu and college grad's the difference has shunk to say the least...
    webstation19.8k.com/EDU2.HTM

    I proposed in 1995 that As part of education reform, scaling minimum wage to education level.

    Well, here is where I'll start picking up labels. Our "system" tells us as kids that anyone can do anything and that rates right up there with the tooth fairy and Easter bunny. The truth is and always has been, that half the jobs out there don't pay a real living wage. These jobs usually don't require a college education and are usually filled by people who are working there way through college. Half these people work those same types of jobs the rest of their lives. The country is currently boasting 90% of kids going to college.

    Why? so half of them can work minimum wage and spend their lives paying for an education that gave them nothing in return. I do say nothing. I have spent all of my life in an around college towns and the level of education has dropped to a pitiful low. "The people" had fits when kids were leaving grade school without being able to read or do simple math and then "the people" had fits when kids were graduating from High school without being able to read or do simple math.

    Now we have people are graduating from college who can't read, make change for a dollar or even calculate taxes in their head. We have College grads who don't have the education that I had when I finished sixth grade. Is this what we deserve for $40,000 education? Those same grads are expecting $50,000 a year jobs for their worthless piece of paper... People are going $40,000 in debt before they start their adult life and end up having to work 2 or 3 jobs just to get by... Now instead of two income families we have four income families who still can't get by, and have no time to teach their children basic math and reading skills, the cycle continues and there is no end in sight.

    We have thrown enough money at trying to get people to be something they are not, I believe the earlier someone takes their station in life the happier they will be. Poverty is the natural downside, to the rich getting richer. Socialism is the answer to poverty, because if everybody is poor then we are all equal...

    A current example of wage scaling would be (written in 1995 needs an inflation adjustment)
    For those without a high school education $5.00 per hour minimum
    For those with a high School education $6.00 per hour minimum
    For those with community college (2 years) or vocational education
    training $7.00 per hour min
    For those with a full four year College education $8.00 per hour minimum
    Masters $9.00
    Doctorate $10.00

    This would make those doing the hiring more likely to hire to match the training needed for a specific job. As far as opportunity and getting rich, there are two kinds of money, old money that comes from your parents and new money that comes from hard work and fresh ideas. There is no direct correlation of education to financial status.

    This campaign I have propsed the most radical Rule...
    The goodwill bill, in which the government recognizes that people has intristic values...
    http://webstation19.8k.com/go...


    But the simplest statement to affect reality is that companies can raise their prices, people can't. Inflation is a natural part of Capitalism, Only those who are cash fat are hurt by inflation ie: rich people. The lower class wiill always be spinning their wheels...
    Everything of any real value, will rise with inflation.

    The net gain comes when every person has an equal chance to live, reguardless of economic stature of their parents.
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  • Prime T... John Ga... 2012/07/10 14:29:51
    Prime Time Lime
    +1
    I agree,and these days $10 per hour is barely a living wage.The cost of living has gone up but the minimum wage has not gone up to meet the cost of living.
  • Red Pixy 2012/07/10 12:25:05
    Yes
    Red Pixy
    +1
    at least for people who work so hard and don't earn what they deserve .
  • LOU Red Pixy 2012/07/10 12:32:07
    LOU
    +2
    If a person is working then they should make a liveable wage. Current minimum wage is not a liveable wage.
  • voice_m... Red Pixy 2012/07/10 21:49:56
    voice_matters
    +1
    when you get a job unless it is with a union you will be paid what you deserve.
  • channie-lee 2012/07/10 11:42:28
    Yes
    channie-lee
    +1
    depends
  • Lord Emperor Kami Guro Bage... 2012/07/10 10:55:27
    No
    Lord Emperor Kami Guro Bagels Supreme Ruler of the Earth
    +4
    That would be bad
  • Katherine 2012/07/10 10:22:35
    No
    Katherine
    +6
    I think it should be abolished.
  • Devil's Advocate 2012/07/10 10:19:47
    No
    Devil's Advocate
    +3
    I would like to see wages in the US rise and would appreciate the extra demand in the economy that would occur as a result but during a period of high unemployment you dont want to go artificially inflating the cost of labour (which, due to the outflow effect, is in danger of inflating anyway).
  • Lady Whitewolf 2012/07/10 09:47:48
    Yes
    Lady Whitewolf
    +2
    Moving it up to 9 or 10 an hour wouldn't hurt...
  • ray Lady Wh... 2012/07/10 15:11:57
    ray
    +4
    It hurt subway and their customers
    No Subway $5 Footlongs In SF, 'Cost of Doing Business' Too High
    Apparently, the city's new minimum wage, raised to $10.24 as of Jan. 1, make $5 footlongs an impossible business model.
    http://www.nbcbayarea.com/new...
  • Mark 2012/07/10 09:31:43 (edited)
    No
    Mark
    +5
    I think the minimum wage should be abolished.
    The gits in the EU have got a lot to answer for.
  • nothingbutthetruth 2012/07/10 08:29:25
    Yes
    nothingbutthetruth
    +7
    The cost of living is too damn high, and so the people wages should be climbing just as the prices.do. And hell to Mitt Romney who wants to cut the minimum wage and people salary when he have his elephant trunk full of money. That is evilness!!
  • USAF Vet nothing... 2012/07/10 08:50:59
    USAF Vet
    +4
    [...]What do you want, 50, 60, 100 bucks an hour? And to hell with you when I have to pay 15 bucks for a Hershey bar.
  • Lady Wh... USAF Vet 2012/07/10 09:49:38 (edited)
    Lady Whitewolf
    +5
    OH PUH-LEEZE! don't give me excuses. I heard that if the minimum wage kept up with corporate COE's bonuses, the minimum wage would be something like $800.00 an hour!
  • Quietma... Lady Wh... 2012/07/10 15:57:36
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
    +3
    How can you equate someone's compensation for running a huge corporation to a sniveling teenager or illegal cooking fries and burgers at a fast food joint?! You're completely insane!
  • Stormy nothing... 2012/07/10 08:59:00
    Stormy
    +3
    Exactly. People deserve a living wage when they work a full week. It's only fair.
  • cmdrbnd007 Stormy 2012/07/10 13:02:05
    cmdrbnd007
    +3
    Ok, he told you that fairy tale that life was fair? If you want a living wage get education or training in a field that will give you a living wage.
  • Bringba... cmdrbnd007 2012/07/10 13:48:08
    Bringbackmanufacturing
    +2
    Yes, now only if the cost of an education would become affordable. UNM went up 20%.
  • ray Bringba... 2012/07/10 15:18:50
    ray
    +1
    Education is Free. Online and Libraries .
    First two years can be achieved via Clep and Community Colleges .
    http://clep.collegeboard.org/
  • Bringba... ray 2012/07/10 16:37:42
    Bringbackmanufacturing
    +2
    Yes, education is free, although excellent career paying jobs require a Masters degree from a university. You can get an Associate of Nursing, however most hospitals require a Bachelors.
  • ray Bringba... 2012/07/10 16:46:09
    ray
    +1
    Your point is taken for such professional degrees.
    The Associate degree allows the means to pay for the next level.

    A complete liberal arts education can attained at no cost .
  • Stormy cmdrbnd007 2012/07/20 08:45:09
    Stormy
    Time and effort and sweat should be compensated regardless of education especially now that an education is so unaffordable.
  • Lady Wh... nothing... 2012/07/10 09:48:14
    Lady Whitewolf
    +3
    agreed
  • Stormy Lady Wh... 2012/07/10 10:11:25
    Stormy
    +5
    Paying people so little they need to get a second job to make ends meet is criminal. It's not much better than slavery.
  • john 2012/07/10 08:08:57
    Yes
    john
    +5
    why should anyone have to go and do a day's work for such a small amount of money that someone who is earning a fortune deems that it's an adequate amount...
  • USAF Vet john 2012/07/10 08:54:40
    USAF Vet
    +2
    So what's the 'ideal' minimum wage? Please post a figure and tell us why it will punish those 'earning a fortune'
  • john USAF Vet 2012/07/10 09:04:33
    john
    +2
    read what i put...i meant that it is someone who is earning a fortune has decided how much the minimum wage should be..the minimum wage should be £8 per hour
  • Stormy 2012/07/10 07:32:07
    Yes
    Stormy
    +6
    An increase in the minimum wage to make it a living wage increases aggregate demand which stimulates the whole economy. It's makes sense to fertilize a tree at the roots. This makes the whole tree grow.
  • USAF Vet Stormy 2012/07/10 08:55:13
    USAF Vet
    +4
    Then you can spend 20 bucks for that apple.

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