Do you think the confederate flag is a racist symbol?
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2012/07/29 22:20:38
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Bob, the reasonable one 2012/07/29 22:25:21no+15It's a matter of history, anyone who acts outraged over it is simply looking to be "outraged"





















The only good person in the Confederacy was Robert E. Lee, who was against slavery and only fought for the Confederacy's whackass because his home state sided with them.
I don't see how you can call yourself patriotic when you admire a flag that once represented the possible destruction of the Union. You can't say Abe Lincoln's your hero when you admire the efforts of his worth enemy.
The southerners are a proud people and though the Civil War has been over for 147 years to many families it is still going strong.
It is sorta like the Hispanics flying their flag....so the same question could apply to them DO YOU THINK THE HISPANIC FLAG IS RACISM?
If that is the case then I think we should be telling the Hispanics that and the Germans, French, I fly both the Canadian and the American flags...
The same for the Africans and the Arabs....According to your thinking ALL FLAGS SHOULD NOT BE FLOWN EXCEPT FOR THE UNITED STATES FLAG.
As I said I fly both the Canadian and American flag...the Canadian flag out of respect for my Mum and the American flag out of respect for my father.....long story will explain one of these days.
At any given day you can drive by my home and see OLD GLORY WAVING HAPPILY ON HER FLAG POLE.
I fly only twice a year my dad's 48 star casket flag on D-Day and Memorial day.
I have had more so called vets bitch me out because I fly her and get ticked off when I tell them I have the legal right to fly a HISTORIC flag.
The South paid 87% of the tariffs which averaged 47%, and they wanted to establish a soverign nation with low tariffs, but due to the fact that if the South was allowed to secede and establish a free trade zone, it would undermine Northern business and trade.
The South did not need the North because it could purchase the goods they needed from Europe, but the North needed the South for raw materal and a market for Northern goods.
It is those that claim freeing the slaves was the reason for the war that are rewriting history.
If slavery was the reason for the war: why did the Union not free the slaves held in the Union states before, or during the war, and admit West Virginia, to the Union, as a slave state after Southern statres had already began to secede; why did general Grant state that if the war was to free the slaves he would change sides; why did Lincoln state that he had no power or intention of interfering with slavery, pledge to enforce the fugitivfe slave act, and support a new irrevocable constitutional amendment to protect slavery forever; why did the ...
The South paid 87% of the tariffs which averaged 47%, and they wanted to establish a soverign nation with low tariffs, but due to the fact that if the South was allowed to secede and establish a free trade zone, it would undermine Northern business and trade.
The South did not need the North because it could purchase the goods they needed from Europe, but the North needed the South for raw materal and a market for Northern goods.
It is those that claim freeing the slaves was the reason for the war that are rewriting history.
If slavery was the reason for the war: why did the Union not free the slaves held in the Union states before, or during the war, and admit West Virginia, to the Union, as a slave state after Southern statres had already began to secede; why did general Grant state that if the war was to free the slaves he would change sides; why did Lincoln state that he had no power or intention of interfering with slavery, pledge to enforce the fugitivfe slave act, and support a new irrevocable constitutional amendment to protect slavery forever; why did the Union not mention the issue of slavery until about a year and a half after the war had started; and why did Lincoln not free all the slaves in lieu of only freeing those in the Confederate states?
Maybe you did not know it but due to the invention of labor saving farm equipment the need for farm labor was greatly decreased before the war, and slavery was already on its way out because slave owners were responsible for their slaves for the duration of their lives, even after they were no longer able to work, and slavery was becoming non cost effective, because it was cheaper to hire tenant farmers than keep slaves.
If it makes you feel better you can ignor the fact that slave labor was not free, due to the cost of purchase and providing for the food, housing, clothing, and medical care for the slaves entire life, while a tenant farmer only cost a portion of the harvest, with no up front money.
You may also ignor the fact that the Union did not raise the issue of slavery as a cause of the war until about a year and a half after the begining of the war.
In closing, I would please ask you to consider the questions I ask in the previous post before you make the claim that I am the one rewriting history.
I am sure there were cases where slaves were not properly fed, childern were sold from their parents, and instances of slave rape occurred, but then, as today, most people keep their livestock, and that was what slaves were considered at that time, in good condition in order to achieve maximum production, so it would have made no sense to mistreat or starve a several thousand dollar investment to the point that they could not preform to their maximun potential.
Although you may not believe it, there were many slaves that felt they were part of the family they belonged to, and fought to protect the members of that family.
The issue of slavery was not raised by the Union untill about a year and a half after the start, when it looked like England may come in to offer military assistance to the South and the Union needed some moral justification for their actions.
I would still like you to address the questions I ask, but it is apparent that y...
I am sure there were cases where slaves were not properly fed, childern were sold from their parents, and instances of slave rape occurred, but then, as today, most people keep their livestock, and that was what slaves were considered at that time, in good condition in order to achieve maximum production, so it would have made no sense to mistreat or starve a several thousand dollar investment to the point that they could not preform to their maximun potential.
Although you may not believe it, there were many slaves that felt they were part of the family they belonged to, and fought to protect the members of that family.
The issue of slavery was not raised by the Union untill about a year and a half after the start, when it looked like England may come in to offer military assistance to the South and the Union needed some moral justification for their actions.
I would still like you to address the questions I ask, but it is apparent that you have no interest in learning the truth about the reason for the war.
The reason that Southerns lost their money was because the Union army had destroyed their homes, livestock, infrastructure, not to mention that the South was broke after the war, and carpetbagger governments set up in the South took their property through unjust property taxes.
I am sorry that you will not even consider that although slavery was a terrible institution, it was not the reason for the war, and that you will not understand that slavery was not in danger because of the statements made by Lincoln of his willingness to enforce the furgitave slave act, that he had no power or intention of interfering with slavery, his willingness to sponsor a constitutional amendment to pritect slavery forever, and even General Grants statement that if he thought the war was to free the slaves, he would change sides, and that he, along with other slave owners in the Union, kept slaves until the the 13th amendment was passed.