
DO YOU THINK OBAMA WILL TIE JIMMY CARTERS RECORD,OR BREAK HIS RECORD,AS THE WORSE PRESIDENT IN HISTORY?
BILL
2012/06/17 17:30:50
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I THINK HE WILL BREAK CARTER RECORD


















As far as American citizens doing something about it, they are as misguided and blind as you are. Do some research and you will find out that many people,not ONLY Americans are martyred there way too often. It was the ignorant people as you that allowed 9-11 to happen. You have your head in the sand. Wake up. I have seen first hand what the Iraqi gov't did. I really don't care whether you believe it or not ! Ignorance is bliss. You are living proof of that.
Bush brought in 2.523 trillion dollars of revenue in 2008. The recession started in Dec 2007. Now look what Obama’s policies did to revenues for 2009, 2010, and 2011. In 3 years Obama hasn’t been able to produce the revenues that George Bush brought in 2008.
Year / Revenues (in Trillions)
2008 2.523
2009 2.104
2010 2.162
2011 2.303
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb...
Table 1.1
Marxism doesn't work!
George Bush cut taxes in 2003 which became effective 1 Jan 2004. His tax cuts increased revenues 700 billion dollars. Of course, the recession started in Dec 2007, so 2008 revenue where down slightly.
When Obama took over, revenues fell through the floor, spending and public debt increased dramatically.
Year /Revenues / Outlays / Deficit or Surplus
2003 1,782,314 /2,159,899 /-377,585
2004 1,880,114 /2,292,841 /-412,727
2005 2,153,611 /2,471,957 /-318,346
2006 2,406,869 /2,655,050 /-248,181
2007 2,567,985 /2,728,686 /-160,701
2008 2,523,991 /2,982,544 /-458,553
2009 2,104,989 /3,517,677 /-1,412,688
2010 2,162,724 /3,456,213 /-1,293,489
2011 2,3203,700 /3,603,0601 /-1,299,595
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb...
Table 1.1
Obama buys votes with welfare programs and special priveleges; it doesn't matter what the cost are to jobs.
Hasn't the country seen a gain in jobs under the Obama administration?
http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/s...
Table 1.1
No, their are less job today in America then when Obama became president or when Reagan became president. Let try facts.
"• The proportion of the civilian working-age population actually working, at 58%, is the smallest since the Carter era (Labor Department).
• Growth in nonfarm payroll jobs since the recovery began in June 2009 is the slowest of any comparable recovery since World War II (Hoover Institution).
• The rate of new business startups — the engine of job growth — has plunged to an all-time low of 7.87% of all businesses (Census Bureau).
• 3 in 10 young adults can't find jobs and live with their parents, highest since the 1950s (Pew Research)."
http://news.investors.com/art...
Marxism doesn't work!
Our corporation decided to produce cheaper and increase profits by closing our factories and going to China etc. CEO's are receiving $20 million in annual compensation. How many workers who were the base of our middle class were without a job. Unions were decimated (which I believe was their main intent). All this despite the 10% tax cut by Bush which were supposed to create jobs and you want to blame this on President Obama?
In all the data you looking up and posting you seem to miss one key stat. Unemployment is 3% for those Americans that are college educated (Bachelor degree or higher). There are more than 2 million job openings in this country today because people lack the skills to fill them and of course that's President Obama's fault as well, right?
Yet, your boy Romney wants to get rid of the DOE, cut educ...
Our corporation decided to produce cheaper and increase profits by closing our factories and going to China etc. CEO's are receiving $20 million in annual compensation. How many workers who were the base of our middle class were without a job. Unions were decimated (which I believe was their main intent). All this despite the 10% tax cut by Bush which were supposed to create jobs and you want to blame this on President Obama?
In all the data you looking up and posting you seem to miss one key stat. Unemployment is 3% for those Americans that are college educated (Bachelor degree or higher). There are more than 2 million job openings in this country today because people lack the skills to fill them and of course that's President Obama's fault as well, right?
Yet, your boy Romney wants to get rid of the DOE, cut education and is in favor of increasing student loan debt. Now he say I can fix the economy; I'm the job creator. By his own words talking about equity "investment": win some, lose some. That is exactly what gamblers say. He calls himself a business man, he is a money man gives a little and then takes a lot. How many others could accumulate 25 MILLION DOLLARS. A real business man works his derriere off to make a living. How dirty are Romney's nails?
Instead of saying Marxism doesn't work you should be saying Trickle Down Economics doesn't work. It didn't work during the Reagan or Bush years and people think it will somehow magically work now. If the republicans eliminate the middle class, who is going to be left to by goods and services the wealthily produce?
•”54% of bachelor's degree-holders under the age of 25 are jobless or underemployed, the highest share in decades (Northeastern University).”
http://news.investors.com/art...
What did Pelosi and Reid have to do with it? They controlled congress or do you think Congress is not import? In 2007, Obama was a Senator just like Reid.
The fact is that the unemployment rate was 4.6 percent when Pelosi and Reid to over congress and today it is 8.2 percent. Capital and jobs flee Marxism!
http://web.mit.edu/simsong/ww...
Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on Obama's economic policies. Not only do they conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten some basics from Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.
According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."
Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires c...
Just as Chicken Little started a "sky is falling" hysteria based on a falling acorn, so too are various critics pushing a "socialist" or "Marxist" Obama hysteria based on Obama's economic policies. Not only do they conveniently forget that the 2008 bailout was initiated by the Bush administration, but they also seem to have forgotten some basics from Econ 101. They could easily avoid such non sequitur nonsense by following the evidence instead of jumping to conclusions.
According to dictionary.com, socialism is "a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. In Marxist theory, it is the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles."
Please note that it is the stage FOLLOWING capitalism. Capitalism has many forms in a mixed economy, with public (collective) ownership of various enterprises based upon economic conditions. Limited public ownership does not comprise Marxist socialism, which requires complete public ownership. When controlled by a police state, however, limited public ownership may become fascism ("national socialism"), Marxist socialism, or even "perfect implementation of collectivist principles." Limited public ownership occurs at virtually every point on the mixed economy spectrum.
Every advocate of greater government economic control might be called a "socialist," but none are true socialists unless they advocate the complete elimination of private enterprise, which requires the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism. True (laissez-faire) capitalism means zero government control of private enterprise, which is economic anarchy. Neither of these extremes works in the long run. Every successful economy is a mixed economy, existing somewhere on a spectrum between both extremes. Every successful economy is part capitalist and part socialist. They all contain a mix of private and public ownership, and they all have some government control of private enterprise. The only relevant question is "WHERE on this spectrum can we achieve the greatest success?" The rise of Asian economies, with their varying degrees of centralized planning, proves that economic planning helps economic development.
Both laissez faire capitalism and true communism are artificial constructs, as impossible to sustain as cold fusion. Every successful society requires private enterprise regulated by public policy, regardless of Ayn Rand's fantasies. Extremists on either fringe are equally delusional. In some ways regulation is a necessary evil like body fat: too much or too little are both lethal. The normal tendency is to add layers with age. The challenge is to find the level that will produce the optimum outcome, all things considered.
Unless someone advocates the complete replacement of capitalism with collectivism, they do not truly advocate socialism or communism. To accuse them of either, when they have not explicitly advocated as much themselves, suggests either unfamiliarity with mixed economies or intellectual dishonesty. Even George W. Bush and John McCain were accused of advocating socialism based upon their support of 2008 bailout legislation.
The bottom line is simple. If you consider any variation of a mixed economy, including ANY public ownership or regulation of industry to be "socialism," then the United States and ALL other economies are "socialist." The debate is over, because by that definition we have been "socialist" since the 18th century. If you only consider complete collectivism to be "socialism," according to Marxist theory, then no successful economy is actually "socialist." The closest to a Marxist socialist economy is the economic basket case, North Korea. If you consider socialism to occur at some other point on the spectrum between unregulated capitalism and Marxist socialism, then any such point would be arbitrary.
To accuse a mixed economy advocate of being a socialist or communist suggests that you believe that ANY degree of government regulation qualifies as "socialism," or that you believe that any regulation beyond an indefinite "trigger point" qualifies as "socialism,", and that YOU get to set the trigger point. The "trigger point" explanation reminds me of the egocentric explorer who says that anyone who explores farther into dangerous territory is a fool, but anyone who doesn’t explore as far as he does is a coward. His arrogance presumes that his own boundaries are common standards.
Marxist "socialism," in contrast to European "democratic socialism," requires collective ownership of the means of production in lieu of capitalism. That is the death of private enterprise. We may or may not be on a path to collectivism, just as a dating couple may or may not be on a path to pregnancy. Traveling on a path in any direction does not imply any specific goal. For example, traveling on Interstate 10 does not imply that either coast is the goal.
"Direction" is one thing. "Goal" is another. All mixed economies exist at some point in the spectrum between the fatal terminuses of unregulated capitalism and true socialism. In most Marxist states, however, capitalism reappeared as people recognized the lethal consequences of such extremes. Russia, China and other communist nations now recognize the virtue of mixed economies. They learned the hard way.
I await empirical evidence, instead of specious speculation, that Obama wants to eliminate capitalism by moving to that extreme. To say Obama advocates the goal of socialism, based upon his movement on the spectrum instead of being based on his explicit advocacy, is to create a straw man. It is intellectually dishonest and unworthy of serious debate.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." --Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
as for a person, he's actually a nice guy with a caring heart. I'd take him any day over today's terrorist.
but also the effects that had on the economy too ..
this is FAR WORSE ..
(and yes, that is a sad statement indeed .. )
that's not even working ..
too many times lately I've been asked and shown ..
the "Change in Terms"
of the Credit Cards that were mailed to households ..
where the interest rates are .. get this ..
at the 25%-30% and higher now ..
(so although the fed loans at a low rate to the banks .. obviously .. even with the consolidations and changes in partnering for the credit products .. the CONSUMER Rates are rising .. to rates not seen in the Carter years .. )