You are asking the wrong question. You should ask if celebrity gets you a break in sentencing.
I do not believe that race has anything to do with it.
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Do you think Black Americans are given harsher sentences than White Americans?
Corey September 13, 2007 16:01:49
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Foxy Brown was recently sentenced to a year in jail for shoplifting and other petty crimes. In light of Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Richie's combined 25 hour sentence for far more dangerous crimes (multiple DUIs), one has to wonder, do judges give longer jail time to African Americans?
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Yes. Judges are Racist.
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Facts are facts, everything from drug cases to theft shows that, in today's times, WHITE Americans get more time than black Americans committing the same crimes in the same places. The fact that more blacks are being prosecuted at any given time than whites says nothing about racism, as it says nothing against the possibility that this just happens because at the point in time being observed more blacks happen to have been committing crimes. That's not racist, it's just where the numbers happen to go.
To actually use celebrities, the wealthy, or politicians to skew the numbers is immoral and counterproductive to the argument, and only leads people to continue to believe that the opposite of what is happening is the truth.
Impossible, since my views are nothing more than a statement created from real world numbers. Having police in the family does not magically make the facts when I state them less credible. Take twenty seconds and look them up for yourself. All of this is public record I'm sure you know, unless you're just the one making assumptions and have never actually seen the numbers.
Does Nicole Richie not count as black?
1st of all facts speak for themselves, if you want to look this up you can.
Everything from drug cases to theft will show that african americans without pricey lawyers get way more time than whites with the same crime or less.
If you don't believe me go to a jail in a major metropolitian city or look it up on the net. 10 to 1 for any race, except Asian and Jewish. The overwhelming majority of cases procescuted and time served will always lean in the favor of black americans doing the most time for the same crime.
(Look at crack cocaine vs powdered cases)
"FREEDOM, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY" My A$$!!!
It's more like the "just-them" unless there is money involved!
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That part is partially true. People in poverty almost always see harsher sentences for major crimes, although less for minor crimes as the judges are lenient to petty crimes conducted by those who cannot afford jail time, such as those who must work every day to survive. For example, a minor drug charge quite often is dismissed or the sentence lightened for an individual in poverty, but the fee raised for the wealthy.
That said, while those in poverty see worse treatment for harsh crimes as they cannot afford high-priced lawyers, it is actually white Americans in poverty that see harsher sentencing than black Americans in poverty, easily explained by the fact that the courts are required to be very careful when considering the level of racial complaints (fraudulent or otherwise) made in today's times. It's the same reason that black Americans in major cities are able to use the race card to talk their way out of tickets by making fraudulent complaints, coming from a family with several police officers (white police officers in LA which makes them a target no matter their actual beliefs...one is married to a black woman and still sees fraudulent complaints many times he pulls over a black speeder even if the guy is going double the speed limit), I hear of this all time.
No, Black people just deserve harsher sentences
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result of the seriousness of the crime, the record of the defendant,
the outrage of the community to the crime. All judges have state or
federal guidelines to follow and i'm sure skin color is not a condition
for sentencing. Sometimes, I believe "money" can play a part in the
sentence and the one's without "money" might pay a bigger price.
Get your head out of the 50's and wake up!
once, so tell me, smart guy, what color am I?
a contributing factor in the sentences handed down by judges. Having
said that, I guess I disagree with you, skin color is most definately a condition for sentencing and will remain so until the situation is changed.
I'm saying I agree with that, i'm stating a fact. I guess we need equal
opportunity criminals. The black population has made many moves up
the ladder but it's going to take time and they must be educated formally.
Stay in school, be proud and be positive, then you can compete for the jobs and put crime behind you. (just my observation)
reply, I meant to say, "I'm NOT saying I agree with that." And, I agree
with you totally about things being "planted, overlooked and tampered with" Not only with blacks but a lot of white too. I hate that
about our system, convict at any cost - it's pure bullsh't - for whomever is targeted. I am for, total - pure - justice - no matter what
color you are. If you didn't do it, I don't want you in jail - I want the
guy who did do it in jail. I've been arrested on phoney charges,
faced life in prison, it has to be the most disgusting, heartwrenching,
miserable, lost feeling in the world - knowing your fate depends on
people who don't care what happens to you. I was falsely accused
by a drunken bitch who said I kidnapped her, held her at gunpoint
and raped her twice before letting her go when i left for work. - nice
huh? Later she agreed to drop the charges if I would let her move in
with me - she was a homeless. I was arrested at my job, dragged home in handcuffs and my home searched, spent a long weekend
in jail, that was 25 years ago, maybe 30. If she wouldn't have dropped the charges, I wouldn't be here today, talking to you.
Hell man, i have no prejudices, I wish everyone the very best this
short life has to offer.
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No, Black people just deserve harsher sentences
No, Black people just deserve harsher sentences
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and the nuts that gave you raves!
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Even without being able to see his skin color, he still tried the excuse that he was only pulled over because he's black. The worst part is, even though he was driving recklessly and his skin color was impossible to determine at the time, he still acted as if he honestly believed that him being black was the reason he was pulled over, as if he should have been allowed...'""
Even without being able to see his skin color, he still tried the excuse that he was only pulled over because he's black. The worst part is, even though he was driving recklessly and his skin color was impossible to determine at the time, he still acted as if he honestly believed that him being black was the reason he was pulled over, as if he should have been allowed to do anything he wanted on the road without anyone stopping him.
Unfortunately we see black racists such as this who believe they're entitled to do anything they want all the time. Thankfully this is only the minority of black Americans who seem to pull this crap, but as long as we have people such as "gww INDY" here proving that black racism is alive and growing, the same old excuses will continue to be used.
Yes. Judges are Racist.
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Everybody down there knew he did it including the officials! You people sure can remember OJ but what about your own ugly history?
In addition, you might want to make sure some one is what you think they are before you start telling them they have an ugly history......
The 90 yr old in Alabama was a 30 something yr old white male when he killed those little girls. The whole town including the officials knew about it and said nothing. If you don't see what that has to do with the topic. You are as blind as you are prejudice! This same guy was dying of cancer last year and wanted to come clean before he died.
I spoke to the ugly history of this country, of which I have seen with my own eyes. I know all to well about what I speak about.
Wrong is wrong so quit trying to trump the point... it is unbecoming to anyone who does it in such a spiteful and hateful manner.
And... for your information, every ethnic group can dig up the same kind of dirt... so let something that ugly stay buried...
And I know all to well about the things I speak of...
Talk about a terrorist! Maybe they should let Cheney look into your background!
There is a coward in this conversation... and it is not I. I am glad to see you do understand that you are just "guessing"... and your comments do make you look hateful and ignorant.
I am identified. I am known as Shadow and more than that is none of your business. What I look like is also none of your business. I see you manage to use an avatar that suits you as well... so get off my back and stop acting like an ignorant ass.
You are correct. I am angry. I am angry about many things. Right now, this moment I am angry that there are idiots like you making a fool of yourself, with your closed minds and hate filled hearts. Maybe your real name is Gates, Jr.... I could believe that....
You must be a liberal...you just changed the subject to that of terrorism. I could be a terrorist.... one who will haunt your backside even after you close your eyes...
But instead of Cheney looking into my background... why don't we have the silent people look into yours.....
Hate to break it to you, but rich blacks and whites commit crimes, and poor blacks and whites commit crimes. Try comparing poor blacks and whites, and rich blacks and whites together, not rich whites and poor blacks in the same category. You'll find that the numbers come out very different than what you've been falsely claiming on this site.
Seriously, a crime from the '60s? Why don't you go back a century and compare the treatment of whites versus blacks then and try to use that in an argument for what is happening today? There's no...
Hate to break it to you, but rich blacks and whites commit crimes, and poor blacks and whites commit crimes. Try comparing poor blacks and whites, and rich blacks and whites together, not rich whites and poor blacks in the same category. You'll find that the numbers come out very different than what you've been falsely claiming on this site.
Seriously, a crime from the '60s? Why don't you go back a century and compare the treatment of whites versus blacks then and try to use that in an argument for what is happening today? There's no difference between that and what you just did. People remember OJ because that was a LOT more recent than your example. That was one of the most RECENT free rides this country has ever seen, Shadow was absolutely right in his comment, and race had a huge impact on the decision, admittedly even, by the jury, which is why he was found so easily guilty in the civil trial that only relied on evidence and not the threat of a riot if he was found guilty.
Can you say DRUGS!!
More young black men are in jail for the sale and distribution, but none of them have planes or boats to get the stuff here. The police and other officials still can't get that figured out!
But as I said earlier if a white man is busted with a kilo of powdered cocaine he will get less time than a black man caught with less weight, just because it is rock. Documented facts to which there are law suits and legal procedures against judges and procecutors in courts across America right now!