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Do You Think Abortion Should Be a Part of the Health Care Debate?

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  • +9 Spanky November 21, 2009 06:56:45
    Spanky

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    I am anti-abortion and anti-Obama health care take over. Period. 'Nuff said.
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  • +5
    MQ - Am... DanielleDD November 21, 2009 09:00:16
    MQ - American Patriot
    Go play with your friends .. Sockpuppet!

    Joined SH...... 1/18/08 ( 1 yr. 11 months ago )
    Raves............ 29 (wow.. impressive!)
    SH Friends.... 0, zilch, nada

    11 raves 29 wow impressive sh friends 0 zilch nada
  • jdriver MQ - Am... November 21, 2009 13:25:01
    jdriver
    hey, please don't knock all of us newbies !!
  • +1
    C jdriver November 21, 2009 16:34:46
    C
    Jdriver, it does not have to do with being a newbie. It is that people make up a fake profile and then respond to people who have blocked them months later on these profiles. You can always tell a sockpuppet. Their profile is usually more than a year old, and they have few answers, few raves and next to no friends. Sometimes they will have SH and one other friend (probably their puppet master).
  • DanielleDD jdriver November 21, 2009 17:06:19
    DanielleDD
    Really, MissQue. Try finding a way to insult only those that disagree with you. It's so disrespectful of your new 'friends'.
  • +2
    MQ - Am... jdriver November 21, 2009 20:40:18
    MQ - American Patriot
    Newbies and sockpuppets are two different things... sockpuppets are pretty obvious when they've had accounts for over a year with no SH friends, no raves and hit deliberate polls enmasse....
  • +1
    Magic Kid MQ - Am... November 22, 2009 03:18:15
    Magic Kid
    Now don't be so hard on Daniell, maybe she doesn't know how to find friends or those she invites.....oh, never mind.
  • +1
    Magic Kid DanielleDD November 22, 2009 03:21:06
    Magic Kid
    And having an abortion does same only quadruples the risk. And a side effect is infertility so you can go and play all you want. Aren't you glad your mom took the risk?
  • DanielleDD Magic Kid December 04, 2009 15:02:21
    DanielleDD
    Since you get your stats from fake clinics, they don't really count as factual data. "Side effect is infertility?" Then how is that "many women have multiple abortions" as has been argued multiple times on this very same thread? Oh, because you all are just making stuff up. I wasn't a high-risk pregnancy, but thanks for your concern for my mother.
  • Magic Kid DanielleDD December 13, 2009 00:40:32
    Magic Kid
    How do you know where I get my stats? You don't like them that's ok. I will trust them to the extent that I will continue to tell teenagers about the dangers of abortion and let them choose (prochoice?) for themselves. But experience can be a tough and regretful teacher. And "many women have multiple abortions" with no negative side effects because they are lucky and obviously going to a clinic that care fro it's clients if not for the babies they murder and trash.
  • Skaldi Magic Kid December 23, 2009 16:40:08
    Skaldi
    Clear all doubts, post a link. As Al Franken said, "You have a right to your own opinions, but you don't have a right to your own facts".
  • Magic Kid Skaldi December 27, 2009 03:41:26
    Magic Kid
    My facts are well documeted in some real life situations I have experienced in my very brief life, if not in any statistic you would believe.
    So I will rely on my facts desite Al Frankens lame remark to the contrary. When he said that on the Senate floor he was confused and 1/2 the country laughed AT him - now that is not a fact but my opinion, but I'll bet it has more truth in it than the point he was trying to make regarding the Senate healthcare bill.
  • Skaldi Magic Kid January 02, 2010 18:08:41
    Skaldi
    You still don't have the right to yur own FACTS! And opinions can be WRONG! DUH1 Grow up.
  • +4
    Elaine November 21, 2009 07:35:45
    Elaine

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    N.O.
    period!
  • +7
    tj November 21, 2009 07:30:59
    tj

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    Abortion is a no brainier - murder is murder. What many people fail to see is that the Democrats health care bill is a goverment take over. (Yes, their end game is goverment control). And if the Goverment controls your health care, the goverment controls you. That my friends is slavery
  • jdriver tj November 21, 2009 13:44:40
    jdriver
    in total agreement !!
  • +6
    gypsy November 21, 2009 07:28:23
    gypsy

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    absolutely not it's a very private decision the government should not be involved period! if their soo pro-choice and pro-life than why don't they bother to fix it so that cancer patients get the care they need rather than denying them coverage for pre-existing conditions and letting them die? such hypocrisy!
  • +1
    larry November 21, 2009 07:27:25
    larry

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    what a testament on both congressional houses!! keystone cops in action!!
  • Your Face November 21, 2009 07:18:37
    Your Face

    Yes, it’s a critical health issue that should be debated.

    idk
  • +1
    Bien Your Face November 21, 2009 15:15:46
    Bien
    Abortion is murder and not a part of healing in health care. To prevent unwanted child, learn to find true love then get married and always court your wife till death do us part.(never try to divide through divorce)
    Vow. - your word of honor will determine your personality. Don't say a word if you can not do it.
    Liar goes to hell. The favorite sin of the Communist, Atheist, Islam terrorist and Satanic.
    Abortion? -The Doctor will decide not you or the Communist government.
  • nickname50 November 21, 2009 07:17:58
    nickname50

    Yes, it’s a critical health issue that should be debated.

    Yes and so should pesticide usage Methyl Iodide and many other pesticides cause many health issues. So the law makers allow American people to be poisoned: http://www.panna.org/node/1257 Making the link between chemicals and learning disabilities

    A few abortions a year is not the biggest killer of our kids. Our elected officials are allowing this to happen to us.

    The Collaborative on Health and the Environment (CHE) a new and important U.S. network working on environmental health issues, recently launched a nationwide Learning and Developmental Disabilities Initiative to raise awareness about the role of neuro-toxicants in the sharp increase in learning and developmental disabilities (LDDs) in children in the U.S. An estimated 12 million U.S. children (17% of youth under 18) are now affected by deafness, blindness, epilepsy, speech deficits, cerebral palsy, delays in growth and development, emotional or behavioral problems, or learning disabilities.(1)

    Learning disabilities alone affect 5-10% of children in public schools.(1) Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) conservatively affects 3-6% of all U.S. school children.(2) Within the state of California, the number of children entered into the autism registry increased by 210% between 1987 and 1998. A few studie...
    Yes and so should pesticide usage Methyl Iodide and many other pesticides cause many health issues. So the law makers allow American people to be poisoned: http://www.panna.org/node/1257 Making the link between chemicals and learning disabilities

    A few abortions a year is not the biggest killer of our kids. Our elected officials are allowing this to happen to us.

    The Collaborative on Health and the Environment (CHE) a new and important U.S. network working on environmental health issues, recently launched a nationwide Learning and Developmental Disabilities Initiative to raise awareness about the role of neuro-toxicants in the sharp increase in learning and developmental disabilities (LDDs) in children in the U.S. An estimated 12 million U.S. children (17% of youth under 18) are now affected by deafness, blindness, epilepsy, speech deficits, cerebral palsy, delays in growth and development, emotional or behavioral problems, or learning disabilities.(1)

    Learning disabilities alone affect 5-10% of children in public schools.(1) Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) conservatively affects 3-6% of all U.S. school children.(2) Within the state of California, the number of children entered into the autism registry increased by 210% between 1987 and 1998. A few studies have suggested that the increase in autism over the past 10-12 years may be as much as tenfold.(3)

    Some argue these increases reflect improved diagnostic techniques for conditions which scientists are still attempting to understand. For example, Asperger's Syndrome, one of the conditions considered an "autism spectrum disorder," was added to the Diagnostic Statistical Manual as recently as the early 1990s. In addition, LDDs and autism often manifest as complex sets of behaviors and symptoms, adding to difficulty of their diagnoses and the clinical response.
    (more)
  • +1
    Beaglebabe nickname50 November 21, 2009 09:52:34
    Beaglebabe
    "a few" does not mean millions. Just because "some studies suggest ... " something ... "may be. as much as ... " doesn't make it so.
  • nickname50 Beaglebabe November 21, 2009 12:43:01
    nickname50
    Chemistry is not political - you or your family must depend on the big pharma or agra business for your money. You are doing the best you can. Chemistry doesn't lie. Your not a scientist are you?
  • +2
    pollofrito November 21, 2009 07:12:47
    pollofrito

    Yes, it’s a critical health issue that should be debated.

    For those of us who can remember the days of coat hangers and septicemia, abortion is is a non-issue. It is a medical issue. Moral and cultural issues aside, to treat unplanned and unwanted pregnacies as other than a medical issue will require society to fund the education and opportunities neccesary to enable/motivate behavior changes in the most vulnerable populations. The truly immoral behavior is not to do so.
  • dbwheeldon pollofrito November 21, 2009 08:30:03
    dbwheeldon
    " Moral and cultural issues aside...", then; "The truly immoral behavior is not to do so."
    After "setting the moral issues aside" to those who oppose abortion at the start of your statement and then reinstate a moral imperative in support of abortion, shows the hypocritical bias of your whole argument. You invalidated your argument by breaking the rule you imposed.
  • Beaglebabe dbwheeldon November 21, 2009 09:58:03
    Beaglebabe
    I doubt if pollofrito understands logic, but yours is an excellent argument. Thank you.

    Methinks "friedchicken," has fried brain ;o)
  • Bien pollofrito November 21, 2009 15:18:11
    Bien
    Abortion is murder and not a part of healing in health care. To prevent unwanted child, learn to find true love then get married and always court your wife till death do us part.(never try to divide through divorce)
    Vow. - your word of honor will determine your personality. Don't say a word if you can not do it.
    Liar goes to hell. The favorite sin of the Communist, Atheist, Islam terrorist and Satanic.
    Abortion? -The Doctor will decide not you or the Communist government.
  • Bien pollofrito November 21, 2009 15:20:55
    Bien
    Abortion is murder and not a part of healing in health care. To prevent unwanted child, learn to find true love then get married and always court your wife till death do us part.(never try to divide through divorce)
    Vow. - your word of honor will determine your personality. Don't say a word if you can not do it.
    Liar goes to hell. The favorite sin of the Communist, Atheist, Islam terrorist and Satanic.
    Abortion? -The Doctor will decide not you or the Communist government.
  • +7
    Patsy November 21, 2009 07:09:15
    Patsy

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    If you want to stand before God with the blood of an innocent baby on your hands,YOU pay for it !! Also ,if you are the type of person to lay down with just anyone for pleasure,be pleasurable enough to have the baby (BTW,who probably wouldn't choose you for its parent in the first place) so it will have the chance to chose its own way in life.
  • +3 / -1
    tabbi Patsy November 21, 2009 07:27:58
    tabbi
    You can stand before God and tell him how JUDGMENTAL YOU WERE.... taht is all he shall remember of you
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    ~Stay O... tabbi November 21, 2009 09:14:10
    ~Stay Out Of My View~
    Oh look... Tabbi thinks she's God and that she knows what God will think of someone else. Tabbi can go back down under and worship her evil master now. Would that be Obama, Satan or both?
  • Skaldi ~Stay O... December 23, 2009 16:44:48
    Skaldi
    Judge not, lest yet be judged.
  • ~Stay O... Skaldi December 23, 2009 18:47:41
    ~Stay Out Of My View~
    Isn't that hilarious how you say that to me and ignore the idiot above me. I'm going to say that you and your fake profile should go crawl back into the hole, from which you both came.
  • +2
    Beaglebabe tabbi November 21, 2009 10:02:22
    Beaglebabe
    Patsy wasn't being judgmental, you were. You stated what God would think of her, she merely demands you to take responsibility for what you do. There was nothing in her post imposing God's judgment.
  • +4
    AL Patsy November 21, 2009 07:46:10
    AL
    Very Good answer thank you for it!
  • +1
    Beaglebabe Patsy November 21, 2009 10:02:54
    Beaglebabe
    Good post!
  • +1
    repubno... Patsy November 21, 2009 16:20:15 (edited)
    repubnomore
    Okay, then let Tabbi do that. It is not for you or me or anybody else to tell her what to do with her life.
  • +4
    babs November 21, 2009 07:06:53
    babs

    No, abortion and health care reform should be separate.

    i say no way. so many of them were against this reform anyways so why bitch because they cant have someone suck out a human life that they could have just used a condom to prevent instead of wanting the government to pay for them to murder their child?
  • +2 / -2
    DanielleDD babs November 21, 2009 07:38:59
    DanielleDD
    "Excuse me, Mr. Rapist, could you please just use this condom so Babs and Patsy won't judge me for not wanting to carry your sperm inside me for nine months?"
  • +4
    DavE DanielleDD November 21, 2009 08:47:30 (edited)
    DavE
    False agrument DDD, wise up.
    The Hyde exceptions of rape, incest, and danger to the life of the woman have our tax dollars funding those abortions. That's the law. But even that is not good enough for you abortion happy Socialists.
  • +3
    MQ - Am... DavE November 21, 2009 09:03:00
    MQ - American Patriot
    DDD is a sock Dave.. don't waste your time... its been reported
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