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Do You Take This Judgment Day Warning Seriously?

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When we lived in Northern California we had a big metal garbage can filled with survival supplies: flashlights, PowerBars, blankets, water purification tablets, bottled water, Ramen noodles, a tent, some tarps, sturdy shoes, a weather radio, batteries, a shovel and various other emergency gear.

We felt a bit silly checking the thing every six or so months to make sure the flashlights still worked and mice hadn't gotten into it. Mostly because we had just two small tremblers the whole time we lived in California, but … you never know.

We never had to break it out and while the 9/11 attacks happened just a month before we moved back across the country, the East Bay was, thankfully, spared from any terrorist action.

I ran across that metal can the other day in the garage after reading yet another scare story about today's doomsday prophecy and I had to laugh. I thought about all the people scrambling to make their own Rapture kits to prepare, just in case 89-year-old Oakland-based minister and Family Radio Network founder Harold Camping's calculations about the end were right.

After all, despite being way, way off in 1994 in predicting the Armageddon (he blamed it on bad math), plenty of people were buying his warnings this time around, with some even quitting their jobs, cashing in their life savings and getting their affairs in order. In the months leading up to the fateful day, there were billboards all over the country and in some foreign countries, pamphlets handed out on street corners, RVs plastered with warnings and plenty of websites banging the apocalyptic drums of death.

Think of it as the whole Y2K computer scare scenario, but with more fire and brimstone instead of just laptops flashing frowny faces. Now, of course today was just supposed to be the Rapture, which is the kick off to Judgment Day, which will reportedly last five months, so there's still technically time to pack your over-every-night-from-now-on kit.

Not everyone was taking Camping seriously. Least of all the founders of a Facebook page dedicated to "Post Rapture Looting," in which some posters were bragging that once everyone was gone they were going to pick up "some sweet stereo equipment and maybe some new furniture" for the mansion they planned to squat in.

Hell, even Tim LaHaye, the author of the "Left Behind" series isn't buying it and he's sold 63 million books about the Rapture.

"Coming from a two-time loser on date setting before, I’m not overly anxious. He’s an engineer, not a theologian," he told the Daily Beast. "He’s got a very meticulous-type mind, and no one can tell him everything. He knows everything. He’s got his mindset that it’s going to be this way, but he’s just flat-out wrong. He violates a very, very important statement of Jesus in Matthew 24: 'Surely I say to you this generation will by no means pass way until all these things be fulfilled… but that day and hour knows no one in the angels of Heaven, but my Father only.'"

LaHaye, went as far as calling Camping a "false prophet."

That seems pretty clear to me, and since when does God telegraph his actions with billboards and media appearances?

Camping's tub-thumping is just another example of a preacher whose pulpit is never big enough, so he tries to expand it by threatening to burn a Koran, or claims to be the "real" Jesus Christ, or a math whiz who has calculated the end of days.

Tina Dupuy said it best in The Atlantic: "Doomsday prophets are religion's going out of business salesmen."

Either way, I have my trusty can in the garage and if it really is the end of times at least I got that spring load of mulch down and I fixed that gimpy trellis that was leaning over for two years. And if it truly is the end, well, I can finally stop worrying about how we're going to solve this deficit problem.

Are you worried about judgment day?



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  • Mr. Wonderful 2012/02/25 00:58:45
    No
    Mr. Wonderful
    Fasten your seat belts, Mr. Wonderful will give you his take:

    First, nobody but God, not even his Son Jesus knows the time. Many bibilcal references to that. I suspect end of days we be sudden, little advance warning if any and be such a certain conclusion that nobody will doubt the "end" is near. Such a panic will sweep over the entire world everyone will be fearful and be consumed by what is about to happen.

    Well what could cause that in the natural world? More floods, some massive earthquakes, disease, invasion by aliens? No! Too wimpy, too slow, no matter what, some would survive. We're talking an extinction event capable of wiping out all humans and other life forms in hours, minutes, less time. Maybe even something so massive resulting in destruction of the planet.

    Only supernatural or cosmic events can cause that. I think God will let whatever it is come close to happening then ask the BIG question. Do you believe in Me now? If most say yes, then the mother of all miracles. Something that couldn't happen will happen and you'll know God did it. Nothing short of that and the world will be transformed.
  • mamacrash 2011/06/20 04:48:18
    No
    mamacrash
    +1
    The end may be near but we are bringing it closer with all the garbage we spew into the air from cars, plants and thoughtless acts. We can stop most of this if we choose, please choose our planet!
  • Alexand... mamacrash 2011/06/20 05:02:47
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I do not believe that there is an alternative to honoring the earthly mother. I believe that our heavenly father expects that of us. There are to few that have learned this understanding. There are many that have suppressed and oppressed such an understanding.
  • Mario Brothers 2011/05/27 20:50:06
    Yes
    Mario Brothers
    +1
    The world should not pay attention to Man's interpretation of the end, as there are many weird ou's out there. The end will definitely happen it's just a matter of when and only GOD knows.
    If the literal sense makes good sense seek no other sense lest it result in Nonsense. GOD speaks to us through his word. "Catch a wake up" 21 May 2011 was definitely Nonsense.
    These are the kind of statements made by persons with no comprehension on bible prophecy or what the bible has to say regarding these matters. They also portray Christianity in a bad light, thus putting doubts into many peoples mind, that when someone brings the gospel to the people, this kind of hogwash is mentioned and puts people off, using this argument thinking this is the Christian practice. I encourage people to seek the truth and if you could find a place of worship where JESUS CHRIST is the center and preached, I'm sure you will find your questions answered. However in saying that you need to make a commitment in excepting JESUS CHRIST as your personal savior and the truth will be revealed, You need to be Spiritually discerned to understand the things of the Spirit. Every single person who has lived on this earth will have to give an account of themselves,Christians unto commendation and non believers unto condemnation. You have the choice to decide. You receive eternal life, or you don't. Please make the right choice.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/05/29 00:04:34
    AlexanderMontalvo
    My choice has already been made in the name of Jesus. But know this, there are many Christians, past and present that face condemnation. The notion that by accepting Christ as your savior, an individual is exonerated from present or future sins is ludicrous. I believe that only past sins are forgiven upon true repentance. I have met many believers that believe they are "prayed up". I do not believe that our creator ever intended us to have a "credit" for our existence.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/05/30 15:19:34 (edited)
    Mario Brothers
    Well done, you've made your choice. It must be understood that you are a sinner before you make that commitment with all sincerity. I believe and the Bible teaches that once saved, always saved. If you bluffing GOD will deal with you.You surely cannot face condemnation if you have been rapture d and are in heaven, you cannot be thrown out. That's were judgment takes place for the believer.The only thing our creator credited us with is righteousness through his Son when we sincerely believe in Him. GOD will do the judging, only He knows our hearts. It's not for us to decide who is sincere or not.I'm at loss however, how you interpreted my views regarding the end times into " The notion that by accepting Christ as your savior, an individual is exonerated from present or future sins". If the literal sense makes good sense seek no other sense lest it result in nonsense.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/05/30 23:50:06
    AlexanderMontalvo
    OK, you can preach all you want.
    I've got a question that I would like you to answer:
    where in the Holy Scriptures can you find any reference to the "rapture"?
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/05/31 19:30:42
    Mario Brothers
    +1
    I don't want to sound like a preacher, it's enlightenment. If you concerned about your eternal destination it's important to know these things. You will find reference to the "rapture" in 1 Thessalonians 4: 13 - 18 (The revelation of the translation of the church)
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/01 02:12:41
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I'll check it out and get back to you. I thank you for your response.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/12 22:10:36
    AlexanderMontalvo
    Show me in the "scriptures" where the word "rapture" is written.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/13 20:35:20
    Mario Brothers
    1 Thessalonians 4: 13 - 18
    This central passage on the blessed hope of the church includes: (1) reassurance (vv13-14); (2) revelation (vv15-17, setting forth the return of CHRIST, the rapture of the Church, and the reunion of all believers); and (3) comfort (v18)
    4:17 There are two important Greek words in this verse. The first is harpagesometha, translated "caught up". This refers to a specific moment in the future when believers will be caught up by JESUS CHRIST, as He descends from heaven. The other word is "meet" translated from the Greek phrase eisapantesin which means "to come into the presence of, to meet." This occurs after the dead have been raised (1Thess. 4: 14-16). Then the bodies of those who are alive will be transformed into new bodies.
    The transporting of a person from one place to another.
    The word rapture does not appear in the bible however is used to express the meaning of being "caught up" by JESUS CHRIST.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/14 00:14:41
    AlexanderMontalvo
    There are many that believe in "The Rapture." They do not question the fact that it is a man's interpretation of the Holy Scriptures. I read ! Thessalonians 4:13-18. I see a lot of room to transfigure an interpretation.
    It is at the same time that you depend on the interpretations of the Greeks to be all knowing. Why is it that the Aramaic voice is not listened to? Those scrolls are more vital. They were scribed during the life of Christ not after.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/14 17:59:19
    Mario Brothers
    +1
    If the literal sense makes good sense seek no other sense lest it result in nonsense. The bible was translated from Greek to English .The rapture is a literal biblical interpretation. GOD warns of those who add or takes words away from the Bible. God will take away from him his share in the tree of life. This life is called "eternal" because it is from eternity which is past to the eternity which is to come,
    Salvation for the Gentiles came after the death of Christ
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/15 01:48:53
    AlexanderMontalvo
    It is to bad that the Bible has been translated , re-translated and revised more times than can be counted or known. I appreciate what you say. However, who had the right to make the "literal interpretation" and call it the "rapture" ? There are many believers that trust that they shall be saved in the "rapture" because of this interpretation. I believe this teaching to be false.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/15 16:04:02 (edited)
    Mario Brothers
    +1
    Whether you call it the rapture or to be caught up by JESUS CHRIST at his coming I don't think this poses any difficulty because this is what is going to literally happen.If you have believed in JESUS CHRIST you are going to be caught up. The only way anyone is saved is believing on the LORD JESUS CHRIST, there is no other way.The rapture is for those that have believed, you cannot be saved in the rapture,as you will already be saved to be caught up. I believe that once you have made a sincere commitment, the Holy Spirit will guide you and the truth will set you free. If you say there is no rapture then you call GOD a liar and our hope is in vain.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/22 00:44:51
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I am not calling God a liar, I am saying that man deceives himself by thinking he knows the holy truth. Case in point: look at what the Pharisee did to Jesus and how they turned the people against him. It is a good example of what the power of man's inclinations can and will
    do.
    You might use the argument that all that happened to him was supposed to because of prophesy, but it only could happen because of God's wisdom in the understanding of man and his ways.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/22 11:03:18
    Mario Brothers
    You must remember that the Pharisee's did not believe in JESUS CHRIST as the Messiah, but were only concerned in their selfish positions as they professed outward living according to the Law, however they did not keep the Law themselves.
    You must clearly understand that Satan has done everything possible and tried all cunning ways to prevent JESUS from teaching the people who He claimed to be and from going to the cross.
    GOD is not a GOD of chaos but a GOD of order therefore the scriptures are written for us to understand GOD"S Salvation for mankind. It's GOD speaking to us.
    In a nutshell if you sincerely believe in the LORD JESUS CHRIST the bible declares that you will be saved and one day a bright new wave will break upon the shore, there will be no sickness, no more crying, no more war and little children will never will go hungry anymore. for there will be a bright new day for us to share.
    John 14: 1-4 Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in GOD trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going to prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
    How much more literal can you get.
    "JESUS is coming", do not be caught unawares.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/23 02:00:49
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I am not arguing about whether or not Jesus is coming. I am stating that the rapture is a man made interpretation of the holy scriptures of which many believers believe is the Word of God.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/23 12:14:23
    Mario Brothers
    Alexand, you can play with words all you want, whether you refer to the coming of JESUS as the rapture, been caught up, coming to receive all those that have sincerely accepted Him etc, it all has the same literal meaning. This is definitely the Word of GOD. If I may ask please can you explain to me how you interpret the events that take place at the coming of JESUS.
    That is what happens to the believers?
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/24 01:31:40 (edited)
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I am not playing with words. I am saying and asking : where is the word "rapture" stated in the Bible and where did it come from?
    So far, no one has come up with an answer to this question. I find it disturbing that over zealous believers question my belief in Christ and condemn me for asking the question. It makes me wonder if believers have not been conditioned to not be able to think for themselves. It is as though a magic button is pushed and the blinders and ear plugs kick in but their mouths keep preaching.

    Mario, this is a personal observation. It is not an attack towards you or your beliefs.
  • Mario B... Alexand... 2011/06/24 15:43:20
    Mario Brothers
    +1
    My explanation to a question you once posed. Show me in the "scriptures" where the word "rapture" is written. The word rapture does not appear in the bible, however the meaning I wanted to get across is to be caught up at CHRIST's coming.The scriptures in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 teach us this.If we get rid of the word rapture from the verses I gave you about CHRIST's coming would that solve it.
    Satin loves it when people argue about the Scriptures and I don't think this is what we are trying to do here.
    I would certainly not condemn you for your views and that has never been my intention.
  • Alexand... Mario B... 2011/06/25 02:56:02
    AlexanderMontalvo
    Cool, I appreciate the attention that you have given to my question. You have been helpful.
    Don't let go of the rod.
  • Mr. Won... Mario B... 2012/02/25 00:37:04
    Mr. Wonderful
    In other words you lied.
  • officer... Mario B... 2011/06/12 22:29:47
    officernarc
    "POSTED ON MAY 27".

    Looks like you're safe.
  • Mario B... officer... 2011/06/13 20:38:07
    Mario Brothers
    Yes, I believe I am. and my sincere hope would be that everyone else would also be.
  • Usti Waya BN-0 2011/05/27 05:56:32
    Yes
    Usti Waya BN-0
    It's a joke!
  • cjet 2011/05/25 21:24:58
    No
    cjet
    +2
    I wasn't worried about May..........but OMG October! I better start repenting now!
  • maja.l.v.lange 2011/05/24 16:51:09
    Undecided
    maja.l.v.lange
    +1
    I'm pretty much too openminded to take a stand. I'm always aware of how little I - and in some cases all humans - know. It's a pain. :D
  • Alexand... maja.l.... 2011/05/26 01:39:16
    AlexanderMontalvo
    +1
    It may be a pain but at least you realize that you know that you don't know.
  • maja.l.... Alexand... 2011/05/26 01:47:49
    maja.l.v.lange
    +1
    I guess that's a good thing, yes, but sometimes I envy the ones who always agree with themselves. :)
  • Alexand... maja.l.... 2011/05/26 02:11:44
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I wouldn't. It would be like believing in a person walking down the street carrying a conversation with his/ her self.
    Perhaps you believe that there is bliss in insanity?
  • maja.l.... Alexand... 2011/05/26 02:24:54
    maja.l.v.lange
    +1
    I sometimes do believe that, actually. I suffer from a life-wrecking and chronic clinical depression, and sometimes I wish I were all-out insane instead, because I have this idea that it would feel/be less disabling/suffocating (or sth) than depression. But I really shouldn't presume to know which is worse. I do know that people can suffer greatly from illnesses like paranoid schizophrenia, so... I guess I should be ashamed of myself for envying them. And I AM somewhat ashamed, but I just can't help it. I guess it's because of my sheer despair; it makes me fantasize.
  • Alexand... maja.l.... 2011/05/26 03:08:24
    AlexanderMontalvo
    I am not able to counsel you concerning matters of despair. I can only offer you the voice of a positive outlook.
    There is so much despair in this world, it seems to feed upon itself. Despair is not the mirror of the soul. It is the sad song of not being validated as an individual.
    Birds that do not sing are dead birds.The birds that sing define their territory.
    Try singing to your hearts content.
    I am using singing as a metaphor for any outward form of personal expression.
    But truly, singing is a great way to start.
    Sing, hum, whistle.
    Be thy self. The one that is not of despair. You are she, find her.
  • maja.l.... Alexand... 2011/05/26 03:22:06
    maja.l.v.lange
    Thank you so much! You're very kind - and wise.

    I've been trying to find 'her' for 11 years in a row. That makes it hard to muster any hope of betterment.

    I do sing a lot - literally - and I laugh and smile a lot, I get excited about things easily and often, I love a lot and receive enormous amounts of love and support, I very often count my many blessings with intense gratitude, and I even see some good things about me. I'm very privileged in many ways. But none of it has reduced my pain to a bearable level. And neither has therapy. So I'm at a complete loss. I do remain in therapy, though.

    There's really no 'need' for you to make more of an effort, as my negativity has long since proven to be impenetrable. But, again, thank you very much. It DOES feel good when people try to help, and it's so beautiful when even strangers do. :)
  • Alexand... maja.l.... 2011/06/12 22:33:26
    AlexanderMontalvo
    The true help is when you want to help yourself.
  • maja.l.... Alexand... 2011/06/13 01:08:00
    maja.l.v.lange
    I do want to! But that DOESN'T help!
  • Alexand... maja.l.... 2011/06/22 02:29:56
    AlexanderMontalvo
    Well, I figure you are lost in despair. So be it.
  • maja.l.... Alexand... 2011/06/22 08:56:19
    maja.l.v.lange
    Yeah. But thanks for your kind efforts.
  • Angi 2011/05/23 17:57:26
    Undecided
    Angi
    +1
    Well what worries me most is the people who think Judgement Day is coming they want to bring it in. So the ones who fear it the most cause it. I never understand why so many so called peaceful loving followers of religion want the rest of the world to die, and some are so peace loving they want it to happen sooner so they are prepared to do what ever it takes to cause it.
  • Alexand... Angi 2011/05/24 02:23:35
    AlexanderMontalvo
    You have a thought provoking perspective
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