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Do you support Chick-fil-A's right to support traditional marriage?

Bryan Longworth 2012/08/03 00:21:26
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  • none 2012/08/03 00:22:39
    Yes
    none
    +9
    Yes I do and I don't care who doesn't like it, everyone is entitled to an opinion. I'm all for equal rights but do NOT call it a marriage.

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  • Venya 2012/08/18 14:38:27
    Yes
    Venya
    Heck yeah! So many others bash traditional marriage all the time. It's kinda like saying: "I believe in ingesting food through my mouth". Does that PREVENT someone who wants to snort their cornflakes in the morning from doing so? No. No it does not. *Insert sigh of relief for adventure-food-connoisseurs-f... here*
  • senvestoj 2012/08/04 04:14:52
  • The_Red-fox 2012/08/04 02:55:28
    Yes
    The_Red-fox
    +2
    i'm glad to see that this is the majority of the vote keep it up guys
  • TruBluTopaz 2012/08/03 19:57:36
    Yes
    TruBluTopaz
    +3
    It's called free speech.
  • Daniel O'Hern 2012/08/03 19:47:20
    Yes
    Daniel O'Hern
    Hey I may not agree with their view but this is America and if they wish not to feed the gay population with heart attck food keep feeding the Palins and they might just choke to
    Death on a chicken bone.
  • kurtanderson1 2012/08/03 17:57:57
    Undecided
    kurtanderson1
    The CFLay guy has an opinion about traditional marriage. Good for him. Now let's have that chicken sandwich.
  • U-Dog 2012/08/03 14:50:20
    Yes
    U-Dog
    +2
    Absolutely, and after the left's show of total political intolerance I also support changing the name of the Democrat Party to the DemoNazi Party. DemoNazi
  • Snake65 U-Dog 2013/09/07 06:41:35
    Snake65
    Perhaps you should go take a history class, if you actually believe that supporting equality is similar to the nazis.
  • U-Dog Snake65 2013/09/11 15:54:58
    U-Dog
    A legalized political mobster supports equality for the sole purpose of undermining fundamental individual rights and once those are gone no one will have rights. Enjoy your political candyman freebies and privileges while they last genius and don't ever claim that you were not properly warned.
  • ~Adrien~ 2012/08/03 14:42:00
    Yes
    ~Adrien~
    +1
    Our culture has accepted TWO HUGE LIES: The first is that if you disagree with someone's lifestyle, you must fear them or hate them. The second is that to love someone means you agree with everything they believe or do. Both are nonsense. You don't have to compromise convictions to be compassionate. - Rick Warren
  • HelmetGirl 2012/08/03 14:08:16
    Yes
    HelmetGirl
    +1
    Yes I do. Just like organizations that support gay marriage have their supporters, Chick-Fil-A and other like organizations have mine.
  • Clay Slayer 2012/08/03 14:03:58
    Yes
    Clay Slayer
    But! My question is, is who someone marries any of their business??

    They can support what ever they want...
  • D D 2012/08/03 09:18:04
    Yes
    D D
    +1
    The owner is a person, a citizen, just like you and me and has a right to their beliefs. They have the right to do with their money what they want. This is America.
  • rustyshackelford 2012/08/03 07:54:32
  • pizzaman7 2012/08/03 07:51:58
    Yes
    pizzaman7
    +1
    Some companies voice their opinion on the other side of the fence. It's free speech.

    What bothers me is the attempt by government officials to use the status of their office to hurt a business that is for traditional marriage.

    if we tolerate one way we need to tolerate the other way. if you don't like what someone says then don't buy from them. to come out and say you want to shut a business down or put them out of business is fascism.

    the people showing up to support them shows that traditional marriage is still very very popular.
  • TheTruth1313 2012/08/03 06:10:36
    Yes
    TheTruth1313
    +1
    I do support their right to their opinion. The first amendment grants us this.
  • The Duke 2012/08/03 05:29:14
    Yes
    The Duke
    +1
    Absolutely.
  • wtw 2012/08/03 04:30:41
    Yes
    wtw
  • Ken 2012/08/03 04:27:39
    Yes
    Ken
    +3
    It is how the majority of Americans believe.
  • harasnicole 2012/08/03 03:40:42 (edited)
    Yes
    harasnicole
    +2
    I support their right to support what they believe as "traditional marriage," I just don't agree with their beliefs.
  • Kat ♪.BTO-t-BCRA-F~PWCM~ 2012/08/03 02:59:40
    Yes
    Kat ♪.BTO-t-BCRA-F~PWCM~
    +4
    It is their right.
  • Liz 2012/08/03 02:31:39
    Yes
    Liz
    +4
    Yes. I think every American should be supportive of Freedom of Speech... if they want to have any say in this country!
  • Wheelsafire18 2012/08/03 02:11:02
    Yes
    Wheelsafire18
    +4
    This never should have become a political football. The Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) is the law of the land. Chick-fil-A has every right to support the law. LGBT can have what they want, just don't call it marriage and insult the time honored tradition between a man and a woman.
  • Odinsown 2012/08/03 01:46:52
    Undecided
    Odinsown
    +2
    They have the right to support anything they like. But traditional marriage is by no means traditional.
  • wtw Odinsown 2012/08/03 04:31:29
    wtw
    Then what is it?
  • Odinsown wtw 2012/08/03 05:27:42
    Odinsown
    What we consider traditional marriage has really only existed since the early 1900's. It is a really new construct. Marriage has throughout history been about social status and contract, not loving families.
  • Clay Sl... Odinsown 2012/08/03 14:07:48
    Clay Slayer
    +1
    History has it that Marriage was a ceremony that bonded a woman to a man,, Making her his property and sort of an Insurance that his Heirs were actually his.. before marriage arrived. who knew,, same today,, How many children running around that have no clue as to who is " Da Babies, Daddy:"" And "Traditional" marriage hasnt changed things al that much.. LMAO
  • Odinsown Clay Sl... 2012/08/03 14:17:43
    Odinsown
    +1
    Or three women to a man, lol. My point was more that the idea that a traditional marriage is the only healthy environ for children and families is new. Marriage has followed so many forms over the years that no one group can claim a monopoly on "traditional" marriages. In the times of early church they even married some men.
  • Clay Sl... Odinsown 2012/08/03 14:26:09
    Clay Slayer
    +1
    Depends on the society you are raised in... There are societies where one man has many wives, and many children with no problems,, are their children unstable?? Man being the Egotist he is, created the One woman one man thing because he was Jealous of the other dude boinking his girl.. LOL...
    But in some societies it is common practice....
  • Odinsown Clay Sl... 2012/08/03 19:53:35
    Odinsown
    True
  • Bryan L... Odinsown 2012/08/04 20:04:40
    Bryan Longworth
    There has never been a society prior to those currently in existence where men were allowed to marry men and women were allowed to marry women. Never!
  • Odinsown Bryan L... 2012/08/04 20:20:20
    Odinsown
    That is untrue there is at least one case of two men marrying in medieval Europe. As well as men being allowed to marry(well whatever the term was in greece and rome) in ancient Greece and Rome. The ancient Samurai while not marrying admired and respected the sexual bond that some men would develop on campaign. Sorry, but men marrying men isn't that new.
  • Bryan L... Odinsown 2012/08/06 04:17:33
    Bryan Longworth
    Where is your proof that men have married men in medieval Europe?
  • Clay Sl... Bryan L... 2012/08/06 13:48:33
    Clay Slayer
    Where have I said anything about men marrying men?? only the word marriage.... However I will find you evidence of men marrying men,, or even civil marriage,, which heterosexuals take part in also.....I dont know why people ask stupid questions before knowing the answer themselves..

    Homoselual marriage goes back to ancient rome and greece,

    ,Gay marriage and homosexuality were part of the moral landscape faced by the first Christians in Ancient Rome.
    Benjamin Wiker
    Given that the gay marriage agenda will be increasingly pressed upon Catholics by the state, we should be much more aware of what history has to teach us about gay marriage—given that we don’t want to be among those who, ignorant of history, blithely condemned themselves to repeat it.
    Contrary to the popular view—both among proponents and opponents—gay marriage is not a new issue. It cannot be couched (by proponents) as a seamless advance on the civil rights movement, nor should it be understood (by opponents) as something that’s evil merely because it appears to them to be morally unprecedented.

    Gay marriage was—surprise!—alive and well in Rome, celebrated even and especially by select emperors, a spin-off of the general cultural affirmation of Roman homosexuality. Gay marriage was, along with homosexuality...






















    Where have I said anything about men marrying men?? only the word marriage.... However I will find you evidence of men marrying men,, or even civil marriage,, which heterosexuals take part in also.....I dont know why people ask stupid questions before knowing the answer themselves..

    Homoselual marriage goes back to ancient rome and greece,

    ,Gay marriage and homosexuality were part of the moral landscape faced by the first Christians in Ancient Rome.
    Benjamin Wiker
    Given that the gay marriage agenda will be increasingly pressed upon Catholics by the state, we should be much more aware of what history has to teach us about gay marriage—given that we don’t want to be among those who, ignorant of history, blithely condemned themselves to repeat it.
    Contrary to the popular view—both among proponents and opponents—gay marriage is not a new issue. It cannot be couched (by proponents) as a seamless advance on the civil rights movement, nor should it be understood (by opponents) as something that’s evil merely because it appears to them to be morally unprecedented.

    Gay marriage was—surprise!—alive and well in Rome, celebrated even and especially by select emperors, a spin-off of the general cultural affirmation of Roman homosexuality. Gay marriage was, along with homosexuality, something the first Christians faced as part of the pagan moral darkness of their time.

    What Christians are fighting against today, then, is not yet another sexual innovation peculiar to our “enlightened age,” but the return to pre-Christian, pagan sexual morality.

    So, what was happening in ancient Rome? Homosexuality was just as widespread among the Romans as it was among the Greeks (a sign of which is that it was condoned even by the stolid Stoics). The Romans had adopted the pederasty of the Greeks (aimed, generally, at boys between the ages of 12 to 18). There was nothing shameful about such sexual relations among Romans, if the boy was not freeborn. Slaves, both male and female, were considered property, and that included sexual property.

    But the Romans also extended homosexuality to adult men, even adult free men. And it is likely that this crossing of the line from child to adult, unfree to free—not homosexuality as such—was what affronted the more austere of the Roman moralists.

    And so we hear from Tacitus (56-117 AD), the great Roman historian, of the shameful sexual exploits of a string of Roman emperors from Tiberius to Nero. Nero was the first imperial persecutor of the Christians. His tutor and then advisor was the great Stoic moralist Seneca himself. Unfortunately, Seneca’s lessons must have bounced right off the future emperor. When he took the imperial seat, complete with its aura of self-proclaimed divinity, no trace of Stoic austerity remained.

    In Nero, Tacitus tells the reader, tyrannical passion, the hubris of proclaimed divinity, the corruption of power, and “every filthy depraved act, licit or illicit” seemed to reach an imperial peak. He not only had a passion for “free-born boys” but also for quite literally marrying other men and even a boy, sometimes playing the part of the woman in the union and sometimes the man.

    As Tacitus relates one incident (Grant’s translation): “Nero was already corrupted by every lust, natural and unnatural. But he now refuted any surmises that no further degradation was possible for him. For…he went through a formal wedding ceremony with one of the perverted gang called Pythagoras. The emperor, in the presence of witnesses, put on the bridal veil. Dowry, marriage bed, wedding torches, all were there. Indeed everything was public which even in a natural union is veiled by night.”

    Such was only one instance. We also have from historian Seutonius, a contemporary of Tacitus, a report of Nero’s marriage to Doryphorus (who was himself married to another man, Sporus).

    Medieval
    Europe..

    Civil unions between male couples existed around 600 years ago in medieval Europe, a historian now says.

    Historical evidence, including legal documents and gravesites, can be interpreted as supporting the prevalence of homosexual relationships hundreds of years ago, said Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania.

    If accurate, the results indicate socially sanctioned same-sex unions are nothing new, nor were they taboo in the past.
    (more)
  • Bryan L... Clay Sl... 2012/08/07 01:06:46
    Bryan Longworth
    I didn't think you had proof to back up your claims.
  • Odinsown Bryan L... 2012/08/08 01:39:03
    Odinsown
    http://www.randomhistory.com/...

    There is some evidence that same-sex relationships enjoyed relative freedom through the early Middle Ages. European secular law had few recorded limitations on same-sex behavior, and there is even evidence in the literature of the clergy of compassion for homosexuality, notably within the clergy itself (Pickett).

    The church seemed to be tolerant of same-sex unions in practice and made some provisions for ceremonies commemorating the companionate brotherhood. John Boswell’s Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality documents homosexual marriages performed by gay clerics dating back to the fourth century. On the other hand, the church seemed obligated to be critical of non-procreative unions, and questions of translation and interpretation surround some of the documents and ceremonies from the early Middle Ages (Sullivan).

    It wasn't until the 12th century that anti sodomy laws came into being
  • Bryan L... Odinsown 2012/08/09 04:12:42
    Bryan Longworth
    Did Boswell document these homosexual marriage using original source material or by quoting other pro-homosexual writers.
  • Odinsown Bryan L... 2012/08/09 04:21:46
    Odinsown
    That is a very good question. I don't know, however I did find several quotes concerning two of the saints... From Severus of Antioch regarding St Serge and St Bacchus. The paper is here at this link.

    http://rense.com/general50/ca...
  • Bryan L... Odinsown 2012/08/09 04:31:04
    Bryan Longworth
    Before you believe anything or quote anything, you should verify that it comes from original sources. Most liberal writings merely quote other liberal writings without providing any source quotes. James Dobson, PhD stated in one of his books that no civilization prior to modern day civilizations has ever allowed homosexual marriage. I am not aware of anyone proving him wrong or even challenging him on that statement. I would have to see original document support before I would believe that homosexual marriages happened in the past.
  • Odinsown Bryan L... 2012/08/09 04:37:27 (edited)
    Odinsown
    That's a valid point. However the ancient Greeks and Romans both venerated and respected same sex relations. No documented weddings that i know of though.

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