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Little Angel 2012/06/06 15:55:35
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LONDON (Reuters) - Plants and shrubs have colonised parts of the Arctic tundra in recent decades growing into small trees, a scientific study found, adding the change may lead to an increase in global warming pressures if replicated on a wider scale.


Scientists from Finland and Oxford University
investigated an area of 100,000 square km, roughly the size of Iceland,
in the northwestern Eurasian tundra, stretching from western Siberia to
Finland.


Using data from
satellite imaging, fieldwork and observations from local reindeer
herders, they found that in 8-15 percent of the area willow and alder
plants have grown to over 2 metres in the last 30-40 years.


A report of the research is published on Sunday in the journal Nature Climate Change.


"It's a big
surprise that these plants are reacting in this way," said Marc
Macias-Fauria of Oxford University and lead author of the report.


Scientists had thought that the colonisation of the warming Arctic would take centuries, he said.


"But what we've
found is that the shrubs that are already there are transforming into
trees in just a few decades."


Previous studies suggested that the advance of forest into Arctic tundra could increase Arctic warming by an extra 1-2 degrees Celsius (1.8-3.6 Fahrenheit) by the late 21st Century.


Warming in the
Arctic is happening about twice as fast as in the rest of the world. As
reflective snow and ice recede, they expose soil or water which are a
darker colour and so soak up more of the sun's heat.


The same occurs when trees are tall enough to rise above the snowfall, presenting a dark, light-absorbing surface.


More warming in the
Arctic is likely to spur oil and gas development, as well as attracting
herds of reindeer as they feed on willow shrubs.


But a warming
planet is also linked to increases in severe drought and flooding around
the world, putting people, crops and livestock at greater risk.


The global average
temperature last year was the ninth-warmest in the modern meteorological
record, continuing a trend linked to greenhouse gases that saw nine of
the 10 hottest years occurring since the year 2000, NASA scientists said
in January.


Macias-Fauria said
the area researched in the study is a small part of the vast Arctic
tundra, and an area that is already warmer than the rest of the Arctic,
likely due to the influence of warm air from the Gulf Stream.


"However, this area
does seem to be a bellwether for the rest of the region, it can show us
what is likely to happen to the rest of the Arctic in the near future
if these warming trends continue."


(Reporting by Jeff Coelho)

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  • Broken 2012/06/28 14:05:46
    Global Warming may be real but it doesn't concern me...
    Broken
    The globe has had much greater swings in temperatures in the ancient past than anything they are worried about here - just ask the same scientists who study this now. And humans were not even around. This is a part of the natural process of our planet. It does not concern me in the least.
  • Child of light 2012/06/28 08:28:16
    None of the above
    Child of light
    I believe that the earth went through a heating cycle around the time of the Middle Ages, which wasn't just confined to Europe, but the entire planet, which obviously predates the United States, let alone the industrial period
  • Heffeweizen 2012/06/28 01:45:31
    None of the above
    Heffeweizen
    The globe is constantly in a cycle of warming and cooling. It's a natural process and the idea that man can influence nature is really rather egotistical.
  • Patric 2012/06/28 01:41:27
    Global Warming may be real but it doesn't concern me...
    Patric
    to think that it is man made is a little egotisticle.... :)

    we are not important, and to try to have it about us ,is a little silly,
    the earth has warmed up, cooled down , for millions of years, and man kind is a spectator to this action..

    but al gore and mikey moore did get rich fooling a lot of people into thinking they are important .... oh, those silly rabbits....
  • wildcat 2012/06/28 01:20:38
    Global Warming is real.....
    wildcat
    never did believe it was a myth
  • TuringsChild 2012/06/28 01:10:54
    Global Warming is real.....
    TuringsChild
    But it's not anthropogenic.

    Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
  • Denny 2012/06/28 01:03:26
    None of the above
    Denny
    +1
    There they go again with the May, Could, or should words. We could by 1989 be wearing gas masks 24/7 so said Ed Asner on the boob tube. We may be in the middle of an Ice Age by 2000. By 1880 we are going to die if we ever get over 60 MPH. Problem with Global warming over the years is that their record really sucks. When our weather men on the evening news can't be right half the time, you want them to project the future from models that don't even add into them what normally happens just using "facts" to get the results they want. It's a myth and a waste of time.
  • Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/06/12 01:32:18
    Global Warming is a myth....
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    MAN MADE global warming is a myth. This doesn't mean the Earth isn't warming naturally. The man made mantra is completely politically motivated, and I'm not talking about Democrat vs. Republican. This goes to a much higher level.
  • us 2012/06/11 03:20:46
    None of the above
    us
    +1
    GLOBAL WARMING WAS WAY TO MAKE OR STEAL MONEY FROM PEOPLE, TO
    GIVE TO RICH, WHO SAY IT WILL HELP THE POOR. BUT WE HAVE LEARN GOVERNMENT TAKES MONEY AND REWARD THEM WITH RAISES, THEN THEY
    NEVER HAVE MONEY FOR WHAT IT WAS MEANT TO BE FOR.
  • Freight85 2012/06/08 20:35:51
    Global Warming is a myth....
    Freight85
    +1
    Global warming is a scam
  • Icarus Freight85 2012/06/09 13:11:16
    Icarus
    +1
    Global warming denial is a scam. It was designed and run by the fossil fuel industry to protect their trillions of dollars in profits.
  • Little ... Icarus 2012/06/09 14:56:22
    Little Angel
    +2
    You are so right!
  • Icarus Little ... 2012/06/09 15:08:22
    Icarus
    +1
    Yep. Trillions of good reasons to con the public.
  • Steve ☮... Icarus 2012/06/12 01:35:36
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    And you're suggesting that the billions that would be raised by cap & trade isn't a good reason to con them the other way?
  • Icarus Steve ☮... 2012/06/12 06:34:45
    Icarus
    Not entirely. I think cap and trade is a way for business to make lots of money out of the very real threat of global warming *without* actually doing anything very much to address the problem. It's a bit like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic.
  • Steve ☮... Icarus 2012/06/12 16:55:40
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    So if you honestly believe that certain powerful people will make a ton of money on cap & trade, and that they wouldn't really be doing anything to sto it, what makes you still believe that man caused GW is real and not someone's political profit machine? You certainly expressed a very politically motivated excuse for why the oil industry is trying to deny it.
  • Icarus Steve ☮... 2012/06/12 16:58:08
    Icarus
    "...what makes you still believe that man caused GW is real and not someone's political profit machine?"

    The evidence does.
  • Steve ☮... Icarus 2012/06/13 04:17:39
    Steve ☮ R ☮ P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    There is no conclusive evidence that man is causing GW. If there was, I'd believe it too. Unfortunately, I've seen too much contrary evidence that refutes the Al Gore backed premise. And knowing the true political motives of those pushing it, I cannot accept it.
  • VICTORIA 2012/06/08 03:47:22
    Global Warming is real.....
    VICTORIA
    +2
    But we call it climate change- only because really stupid rightwingers think weather is mthe same thing as our world climate- and keep stupidly asking "why is it so warm where I live?"
  • Boblawbla VICTORIA 2012/06/08 13:37:51
    Boblawbla
    +2
    Isn't "stupid rightwingers" redundant? Oops! LOL
  • VICTORIA Boblawbla 2012/06/09 00:53:54
    VICTORIA
    +1
    Boblawblahblah!!!!!!!!! So much has HAPPENED since we last spoke!
    Good, good stuff. :D
  • Boblawbla VICTORIA 2012/06/09 03:22:28
    Boblawbla
    +1
    That's good to hear! Details!
  • VICTORIA Boblawbla 2012/06/09 21:14:21
    VICTORIA
    +1
    They'll be forthcoming!
  • TheTailor 2012/06/08 02:35:13
  • Icarus TheTailor 2012/06/08 16:51:56
    Icarus
    +1
    Scientists use scientific language and that includes presenting new findings with words like 'may' and 'suggested'. The interesting thing is not the tentative predictions about details like the Arctic tundra, but what is already accepted as settled and undisputed, such as the fact that the world is warming, and that we are at least partly responsible for it. You need to be able to see past the fossil fuel industry's denial scam, and get to the truth.
  • Little ... Icarus 2012/06/08 16:57:15
    Little Angel
    +1
    Well said!!
  • Icarus Little ... 2012/06/08 17:01:55
    Icarus
    +1
    Thank you.
  • TheTailor Icarus 2012/06/09 05:12:32
    TheTailor
    +1
    I've been involved in this discussion since the mid 1960's, I know the truth. I'll remind you we are between ice ages, there is no shock in the fact Earth is in it's warming phase gains a degree every 100 years or so, although that hasn't been shown. Your idea that guesswork is an acceptable conclusion in science is laughable, and ridiculous. Let us know when we have a year round Northwest Passage, so we can drill and transport oil from the arctic. Oh and while you are bitching about fossil fuel, sell your Volvo and ride a bicycle, they are 96% efficient.
  • Icarus TheTailor 2012/06/09 08:36:14
    Icarus
    Look at the previous ice ages and interglacials:

    previous ice ages interglacials

    There tends to be a rapid warming (deglaciation) to the peak interglacial temperature, followed by slower cooling towards the next ice age. That's what's been happening in the Holocence (last 10,000 years) -

    peak interglacial temperature slower cooling ice age holocence 10000 years

    So we've had a slight cooling trend for the last 7,000 years or so, consistent with these orbital cycles - we *should* be cooling, not warming at this stage, but suddenly it's got a lot warmer very rapidly -

    years consistent orbital cycles cooling warming stage suddenly warmer rapidly
    years consistent orbital cycles cooling warming stage suddenly warmer rapidly

    Doesn't that look unnatural to you? Doesn't it seem more than a coincidence that this large and rapid warming comes right after a large and sudden belch of industrial CO2? -

    unnatural coincidence large rapid warming large sudden belch industrial co2

    Are you seriously telling me that this is just a wildly unlikely coincidence, even though it's exactly what was predicted over 100 years ago?

    Oh and by the way, I ride my bicycle to work every day, 65 miles a week :-)
  • TheTailor Icarus 2012/06/10 01:25:43
    TheTailor
    +2
    None of these charts have a factual basis as there were no measurements made, it's all conjecture. They also don't dispute the fact that we are between ice ages, try applying some common sense. The last chart is the most laughable, oh, and by the way, the "hockey stick model" (second to the last), they lost the base data, go figure ;-)

    I see you neglect and ignore the Climategate I&II e-mails that show hundreds of examples of the fraud over the years, it's okay, ALL supporters of the Global Warming fraud do this. In 2006 or so the IPCC brought it's first report, it showed less than 1 degree C in temperature rise since 1906, AS IF they had any real data to go on.

    Nice try, but the evidence is clear, Anthropogenic Global Warming is a FRAUD, and nothing more.
  • Icarus TheTailor 2012/06/10 10:41:30
    Icarus
    Sure - when you don't like what the evidence shows, just dismiss the evidence as fraudulent or non-existent. It's a familiar tactic in the global warming denial scam, but it's very transparent and just reveals the growing desperation of those who are still trying to deny the reality of AGW. You may note that most people have moved on from "it's not happening" and "it's happening but it's not our fault", because the evidence is now just undeniable. The most common tactic now is "OK it's true that we are heating up the planet, but that's actually a good thing".

    Perhaps you need to keep up to date with the scam.
  • TheTailor Icarus 2012/06/10 19:07:24
    TheTailor
    +2
    That's not evidence, it's conjecture. Frankly it's been said since the beginning of the fraud in the late 1960's, "Duh, we are between ice ages", and that remains true today. No showing of warming, only guesswork.

    No, we the public, especially after the Climategate e-mails you refuse to even address, WILL NOT support with TRILLIONS of dollars your AGW FRAUD.

    Live with it.
  • Icarus TheTailor 2012/06/10 20:23:11
    Icarus
    It's not conjecture that the world is warming, nor that all the evidence shows it to be caused primarily by human activities. You prefer to pretend it's not happening; I understand that. In the end it probably doesn't matter anyway, as it's not a problem that is really solvable.
  • TheTailor Icarus 2012/06/10 21:09:55
    TheTailor
    I said all along we are between ice ages, the conjecture is in your charts. It's not solvable because it's not a problem.
  • sherdon2 2012/06/07 22:54:19
    Global Warming is real.....
    sherdon2
    I am not sure but I am open minded about this and will hide and watch.
  • Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~ 2012/06/07 12:53:24
    None of the above
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +3
    I think it probably isn't affected very much by us, it's mostly natural.
  • Icarus Anonymo... 2012/06/07 14:39:51
    Icarus
    +1
    100 years ago it was mostly natural. Today, our pollution is so great that it overwhelms natural causes such as solar activity and volcanism -

    100 years natural pollution overwhelms natural solar activity volcanism
  • Anonymo... Icarus 2012/06/07 17:30:06
    Anonymouse BN-0 ~bibbityboo~
    +2
    There are so many different scientists saying different things with different graphs, no one really knows what's real and what's not.
  • Icarus Anonymo... 2012/06/07 17:36:10
    Icarus
    There's not much disagreement about the basics. It's more about the detail now.
  • Pronata... Anonymo... 2012/06/08 18:03:08 (edited)

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