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Do you really think Obama has spent more than all our previous presidents combined?

Bushit April 08, 2009 01:59:44

Too many people on here have said this, so I'm trying to see how many people on here should just take the time to do some research.
Yes, Obama has spent more than all our presidents combined.
No, but Obama has spent more than Bush
No, the national debt was 11 trillion when he took office.
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  • +4 bigboy April 08, 2009 05:20:37
    bigboy

    No, the national debt was 11 trillion when he took office.

    They donot want the Truth. Hell they can not handle the TRUTH! national debt 11 office donot truth handle truth
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  • +1
    VoteDemsOut2010 January 29, 2010 02:34:31
    VoteDemsOut2010

    No, but Obama has spent more than Bush

    At the current time of his presidency, Obama has spent $3.6 trillion, Bush, in all 8 years of his presidency spent $4.7 trillion. So by far, Obama is the biggest spending president in history, to date in term.
  • Bushit VoteDem... January 29, 2010 05:56:35
    Bushit
    3.6 trillion. I guess you won't have trouble finding me proof of that.
  • Loaded Revolver May 11, 2009 07:08:03
    Loaded Revolver

    Other

    Oh yes and counting. They all do.
  • Bushit Loaded ... May 11, 2009 07:09:17
    Bushit
    How has Obama spent more?
  • spunkysmum ~ Tall In the S... April 10, 2009 17:35:17
    spunkysmum ~  Tall In the Saddle, White Hat on Straight ~

    Other

    I'm sure he will.

    He won't be happy until he's bankrupted us all.
  • +1
    Bushit spunkys... April 10, 2009 18:33:57
    Bushit
    You're right. He's hell bent on ruining our country. It was the platform that he ran on and he's not hiding it at all. He doesn't want us to have anything. He wants to spend all of our tax dollars, and he's an angry guy. He won't ever be happy. Maybe after he has bankrupted all our banks and industries will he finally sleep well. Maybe! If not, he'll probably just send us into another nation to fight another war. That guy is the pits.
  • +1
    Silentpub47 April 10, 2009 05:09:06
    Silentpub47

    Other

    I know enough that he's spent more money than necessary, devalued the dollar, and didn't seem to care much about the massive earmarks that Congress wanted so much (after saying earmarks=bad!). I don't really approve of his direction,
  • Bushit Silentp... April 10, 2009 05:10:23
    Bushit
    That's a fair assessment at this point. I believe this stimulus will do more good than harm, but only time will tell. Thanks for your input!
  • Barker Bushit November 21, 2009 05:34:21
    Barker
    I'm ashamed my grandchildren will be paying for this and so far I haven't seen one bit of difference. Instead of bailing out his "buddies", he should have sent 50,0000 checks to each American. The economy would be booming.
    What ills me is that he just gave NIH another ?5 billion? These are the people behind the silly grants we hand out to their friends...such as....over a million dollars to study WHY MEN DONT LIKE TO WEAR CONDOMS or the million dollar grant to study why prostitutes in foreigh countries like to drink and do drugs while "working". HOW STUPID! The American taxpayers know exactly where this money is going - most just don't know its going on.
  • Bushit Barker November 21, 2009 06:33:36
    Bushit
    It's better than spending 5 trillion on occupying foreign nations. How are our grandchildren going to pay for that?
  • Barker Bushit November 21, 2009 14:18:32
    Barker
    How about the National Institute of Health just ask our president why he doesn't like to wear condoms and save taxpayers 2 million? How about telling me why do I care if a prostitute in a foreign country or even in this one does drugs while she is "working". I think I already know the answer to that without spending 2 MILLION of taxpayers money. I do not agree with occypying foreign nations either, I do not agree that we extend amnesty to ILLEGALS. I think both political parties have failed the people who elected them. Problem is, we get a choice of 2 evils. I blame Bush for alot of things, mostly allowing illegals to take over this country. It won't be long before it is rename Americo. I blame Clinton for NAFTA, and I blame Obama for frivoulous spending that is NOT helping. The US is melting right before our eyes and it doesnt matter if you are dem or repub - people had better wake up.
  • Bushit Barker November 21, 2009 20:04:32
    Bushit
    How much money did Bush spend on prosecuting marijuana that was legalized by states for medicinal purposes? How much money do we spend to keep marijuana "criminals" behind bars and how much does our society suffer when we release sex offenders to make room for more of them? This nation would save billions by releasing the non-violent marijuana offenders who do no harm to this nation, and earn even more billions by legalizing and taxing the sale and production of it.

    I'd rather our money was spent more wisely than on foreign wars that bring about almost no benefit.
  • +1
    Dagwood... Silentp... May 14, 2009 03:31:39
    Dagwood Jones
    Can you describe one of these earmarks? I know they're there, but do you? Would you recognize one if you saw it? Can you separate the earmarks from the rest? (Note: don't use McCain's list of earmarks: several are not earmarks at all.)

    How has Obama devalued the dollar? What did he do? By how much has he devalued it? Do you know?

    You say he's spent more than necessary, acknowledging that some was necessary. By how much has he overspent? And on what? Which parts are waste and which are purposeful spending? Do you have some ideas about this? Or have you merely repeated complaints you heard elsewhere without really understanding them? And, if you didn't understand them, how do you know your sources did?
  • Silentp... Dagwood... May 30, 2009 09:19:47
    Silentpub47
    Take a second. Breathe. Your question mark key is screaming. Do you need nitty gritty statistics? Just look around. This place is going downhill. We're on our way to socialism. Also, on the devaluation of the dollar, there has been much more money printed. The less rare something becomes, the less it it worth. I don't need to be an economist or a politician to have some common sense (in fact, it's better that I'm not, the two never have sense.)

    At any rate, I do not think trillions are the answer. Cutting in the right places and denying bailouts would have made more sense. Look at California, they are a microverse of what the country is becoming. All prices and taxes up, a government that's virtually useless.

    And a question to you: What has Obama done to gain your support?
  • Dagwood... Silentp... June 02, 2009 06:50:32
    Dagwood Jones
    My question mark key doesn't scream, but it does click a lot when I reply to blog comments--right- or left-wing--that state conclusions without providing support. I didn't ask any question that called for statistics. Well, maybe the question about devaluation of the dollar. But the questions that come before it ask you to explain your statement about earmarks and those that come after invite you to be more specific about Obama's budgetary excesses. These call for examples of spending from the Recovery Act and, I guess, the President's proposed budget.

    Notice that I didn't actually deny anything you said. Responding to you with a series of questions allows me to see whether you know what you're talking about without exposing myelf to the same treatment (except that you could--and should--ask me for examples of non-earmark's on McCain's list of earmarks). The one question you did ask doesn't respond to any statement I made; I haven't said I support anyone.

    I don't need nitty-gritty statistics, but a concrete example or two would help. You made conclusory statements. Can you put arguments behind them?

    Note: Simply saying "It's socialism!" isn't an argument. Anyway, I'll tell you what's socialism--empowering your government to tax and spend for the general welfare--that's socialism! Commy bas...'
    My question mark key doesn't scream, but it does click a lot when I reply to blog comments--right- or left-wing--that state conclusions without providing support. I didn't ask any question that called for statistics. Well, maybe the question about devaluation of the dollar. But the questions that come before it ask you to explain your statement about earmarks and those that come after invite you to be more specific about Obama's budgetary excesses. These call for examples of spending from the Recovery Act and, I guess, the President's proposed budget.

    Notice that I didn't actually deny anything you said. Responding to you with a series of questions allows me to see whether you know what you're talking about without exposing myelf to the same treatment (except that you could--and should--ask me for examples of non-earmark's on McCain's list of earmarks). The one question you did ask doesn't respond to any statement I made; I haven't said I support anyone.

    I don't need nitty-gritty statistics, but a concrete example or two would help. You made conclusory statements. Can you put arguments behind them?

    Note: Simply saying "It's socialism!" isn't an argument. Anyway, I'll tell you what's socialism--empowering your government to tax and spend for the general welfare--that's socialism! Commy bastards!!!

    A couple more questions:

    How much more money has been printed (than would have been printed but for Obama)?

    Why is California a microverse of America? Explain the analogy between California's economic policy and the current national economic policy.
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  • christi April 08, 2009 23:47:16
    christi

    Yes, Obama has spent more than all our presidents combined.

    Actually I know Obama will spent more. Bush spend more han Clinton. No big revelation.....But Obama is investing in Americans, like Bush with our security, with what should have been done a long time ago with health care, investing in our children's education, and job creation. Putting Americans to back to work and trying to get this country back on the road to recovery. AND WE ARE WORTH IT and it has become desparately neccessary after our at home based well being has been neglected for so long. Thanks to our leaders in Washington, we are basically safe from terrorists and that didn't come cheap by any stretch of the imagination either.
  • +1
    Bushit christi April 09, 2009 03:27:17
    Bushit
    Actually, I know that Bush has started a war on every continent. Let's talk about what we know and not support any of it with any factual information! Yay! Bush spent 15 hundred trillion on a space program for chimps! Yay! Let's talk about the wars in Angola and Botswana that he started, yay! I know about the invasion of Antartica too! That cost 15 bazillion! Yay!

    Bush was told once that 5 Brazilian soldiers were killed in Iraq. He replied, "That's terrible news! How many is a brazillion?"
  • christi Bushit April 11, 2009 03:06:59 (edited)
    christi
    But feed the kool aide drinkers a few little tidbits and the agenda that fueled Barack's campaign and won the election is slowly and methodically being chipped away one lie at a time. Keep it churning out there with Rush, Sean and Bill O'Reilly pumpin' it out 24/7 and the tide starts to turn.....That's the way it used to work.....Thanks to the economic disaster that they helped push over the edge with Phil Gramms and others help, it isn't as easy a job as it used to be. The internet age with smart technology and lots of video that is ready to recall, promotes the truth, at times to weed out the lies. It's not all the Republicans either, but the Dems have taken a few lumps too. I like the drama! Keeps them somewhat honest while they are in front of us. We still have to master the closed door policies.,
  • +1
    Terry J Vey April 08, 2009 06:22:13
    Terry J Vey

    Other

    The one thing I am sure about is that he is spending a lot of borrowed money!If it works that will be great!If it doesn't we are going to be in a world of hurt in 2012.One way or another the fianancial picture will be his greatest achivement or his downfall.It won't matter in the end that he got this from Bush.(Lets face it not many liked him)I do believe one thing though that if McCain would have gotten in things sure had no chance of getting better! hurt 2012 fianancial picture achivement downfall bush himi mccain chance
  • Bushit Terry J... April 08, 2009 15:40:06
    Bushit
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    bigboy April 08, 2009 05:20:37
    bigboy

    No, the national debt was 11 trillion when he took office.

    They donot want the Truth. Hell they can not handle the TRUTH! national debt 11 office donot truth handle truth
  • +3
    Kino April 08, 2009 04:19:29
    Kino

    No, the national debt was 11 trillion when he took office.

    Oh, President Bush. You borrowing/spending crazy man.

    President George W. Bush spent more money in his eight years than all other Presidents before him combined, even with the surplus he had when he came into office. But, hey, President Obama has at least four more years to catch up.
  • Bushit Kino April 08, 2009 04:23:33
    Bushit
    Now that is true! Our national debt in 2000 was just over 5 trillion. When Obama took office it was 11 trillion. He doubled it! Thank you for knowing that! My hope in humanity has been restored, if only for a few minutes until another parrot comes in saying Obama started the war in Iraq or something crazy they heard from Rush or Coulter.
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    Kino Bushit April 08, 2009 04:32:07
    Kino
    For some reason people want to believe what they want to believe, even if it's wrong. What can you do, you ask? You find the sane and reasonable people, conservatives and liberals, and you appreciate the hell out of them.

    Don't give up hope, bro, and good poll. Maybe you'll be able to open a few eyes along the way.
  • Bushit Kino April 08, 2009 04:34:58
    Bushit
    Yeah, I have been on here for a few days. I tried to not block anyone, but after the same person replied to me twice and yesterday he had me blocked, today I decided to block him back. Then I ended up getting harassed by people who weren't willing to do any research or provide and support for their claims, but just call me names and try to belittle me, so I ended up blocking like 5 or 6 people today! I was upset, but it had to be done. I don't like to waste my time and it seemed that those people were not going to learn.
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    Kino Bushit April 08, 2009 04:59:46
    Kino
    I just wish they would at least listen even if they're going to disagree. I haven't blocked anyone yet (I'm too stubborn) but if anyone got ugly with me I'd consider it. Fortunately no one seems to taken with going after me personally...yet.

    I have the pleasure of having been using the Net since it's public appearance back in '93. I've grown a pretty thick skin, thankfully.
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    Bushit Kino April 08, 2009 05:07:41
    Bushit
    One thing, for instance, that stuck out was a person quoting the bible. I simply said, "The Jolly Green Giant stands over his corn and pees." instead of "peas" mentioning that even one letter can change the entire meaning of a sentence, and that the bible had been translated multiple times to get to English, so that it must not be taken literally. I only wrote the line in quotations, but it was enough for someone to block me and reply to me that I had been reported. I tried to write back but noticed I had been blocked.

    Today, that same person wrote something in reply to something else I wrote in a different thread, and had once again given me a -1 (reported me), so I had to block them to stop that from happening again. Ignorance is not a characteristic that I like. Especially if they're trying to get me in trouble with it.
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    Kino Bushit April 08, 2009 05:13:31
    Kino
    Remember, don't personify the attack. You shouldn't let an attack in a public forum like this be a personal affront or you'll drive yourself mad. I get down raved quite a bit and so far it hasn't been an issue. I even had one person on a political discussion board report me as a, and I kid you not, sock puppet. Nothing untoward happened so I'm guessing the SodaHead operators have more sense than some of their members.

    As for the subjects, well, there's a reason why you don't discuss politics and religion with friends in the world. Fortunately there are places like this to get your thoughts out there to be heard.
  • Bushit Kino April 08, 2009 05:17:49
    Bushit
    I enjoy having intellectual discussions on topics that are important to me. I don't like to have trolls reply to just get a rise out of me without adding anything of importance to the topic. I'm glad there is a way to block them, so that I can spend my time talking to people who actually care about the world we live in and interested in how they can possibly help out or even help me learn something new.
  • scott April 08, 2009 03:34:32
    scott

    Yes, Obama has spent more than all our presidents combined.

    Proven fact... just take a look at the Budget. it's there in back and white.
  • Bushit scott April 08, 2009 04:16:07
    Bushit
    If it's proven, then you won't have any trouble finding a link and posting it here for me to read.
  • scott Bushit April 08, 2009 04:27:47
    scott
    http://appalachianforums.com/... you asked for it there ya go.! 1.2 TRILLION dollars.
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    Bushit scott April 08, 2009 04:29:07 (edited)
    Bushit
    1.2 trillion dollars is 10% of our national debt. How could he have exceeded all the former presidents' spending if what he's proposed is only 10%? He'd need to do that 10 more times to do what you say he's done.
    http://www.savingsbonds.gov/g...
  • scott scott April 08, 2009 04:31:01
    scott
    That's 1.0 Billion dollars an hour The Obama Administration has spent since he has been in office. I do my reasearch before I make comments!
  • Bushit scott April 08, 2009 04:32:14
    Bushit
    You said he's spent more than all previous presidents combined. He hasn't spent 11 trillion dollars. I don't know why you think he has.
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    Kino scott April 08, 2009 05:03:17
    Kino
    For the record, President Bush spent almost $6 trillion dollars in his eight years. With all the crap going on in his eight years that's really not surprising. Pres. Bush had probably the crappiest 8 yrs in our history to be President.
  • Dagwood... Kino May 13, 2009 06:46:47
    Dagwood Jones
    It's also worth noting that stating a cost--or comparing it to another similarly accrued cost--is totally meaningless without reference to benfits. It means nothing at all to say that an administration has or will cost us whatever number of dollars, or to compare what it will costs us to other (even to all other) administrations. The only meaningful analysis is the cost/benfit analysis.

    I don't know that Bush spent $6 trillion, but he spent a lot and his projects are still racking up bills against our treasury. Now do the cost/benefit. What do we have to show for Bush's expenditures?

    Of course, speculating about what we'll have to show for Obama's spending is a legitimate pursuit. But you have to actually read the authorizations to know.
  • Kino Dagwood... May 13, 2009 14:04:23 (edited)
    Kino
    Run a CBA on a eight year presidency? Gad, man, I better get a Masters in Finance when I'm done.

    You're right, though, expenditures are only part of the bigger picture.
  • +2
    Noneoftheabove April 08, 2009 02:39:41
    Noneoftheabove

    Other

    Not yet, but at his current rate, he will before he leaves office.
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    Bushit Noneoft... April 08, 2009 02:41:33
    Bushit
    I don't think he's going to even surpass Bush, but who knows. I'm glad that you know he at least didn't surpass him or all the previous ones combined yet. There are some people claiming ridiculous things here.
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