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Do You Like Open Primaries or Think They Are Bad for Elections?

safari 2012/01/12 02:54:57
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With seventeen states holding open primaries and a number of others holding semi-open primaries that means that the candidate who is elected for a party may not have even been chosen by party members primarily.

Is this a good or bad idea?

See this link for the list of states and what kind of primaries that they hold.

Open primaries (or pick-a-party) are those in which voters of any affiliation may vote for the slate of any party.

Closed primaries are those in which only the voters affiliated with a party may vote in its primary.

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And for example on Tuesday, -

Actual Republicans Represented Less than 50% of New Hampshire Primary Voters

http://www.nomblog.com/17851/

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  • STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL 2012/01/12 03:47:38
    I don't like open primaries because
    STU~PWCM~JLA~POTL~AFCL
    +7
    I think open primaries are a bad idea. Trolls from opposition parties could prop up someone unlikely to win the genreal election. Primaries should be limited to voters registered in the applicable party.

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  • BlueMax372 2012/05/29 23:41:07
    I don't like open primaries because
    BlueMax372
    The purpose of a party primary is to pick the candidate from that party. To allow the opposing party or, for that matter, anyone who has no identity with the principles of the party to vote in that party's primary is prima facie STUPID! The Virginia open primary system is the reason Ollie North never became a U.S. Senator!
  • Tony ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮ 2012/01/12 22:10:22
    I like open primaries because
    Tony ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +1
    I like freedom of choice. Besides what's in a label? Open primaries don't entice people to throw elections any more than closed, I think if they are that hell bent on monkeying with candidates they will do it in a closed primary.
  • safari Tony ☮ ... 2012/01/13 01:34:50
    safari
    +2
    I joined the republican party so that I could vote AGAINST Pat Robertson in the primaries. lmao
  • Tony ☮ ... safari 2012/01/13 01:45:36
    Tony ☮ R P ☮ 2012 ☮
    +2
    Chit disturber. LOL!
  • safari Tony ☮ ... 2012/01/13 01:48:27
  • NoBama Man 2012/01/12 18:41:32
    Undecided
    NoBama Man
    +1
    I think the whole system needs to change to a 'real' open primary system.
    I think that campaigning should be for a six month period prior to an open primary...and by open primary I mean OPEN...every candidate for EVERY party runs their campaign EVERYWHERE..the debates still are debates amoungst party candidates. In mid-May EVERY voter votes in ONE primary election. Every voter is considered an independent and has the opportunity to vote for the candidate they wish to support, with total disregard for party affiliation... instead of having to pick sides. The top two candidates from two different parties with the most votes are declared the 'candidates' that will run for the presidency. If it is a Democrat and Green party candidate, or a Republican and a Progressive candidate then so be it...that is obviously the CHOICE people want.
    I believe that this system we use now only benefits the FIGHT...the separation of the populous and instigates conspiracy by limiting the field. It invites a 'third party' candidate to run, thus creating an environment whereby a person can become president with less than 50% of the vote.
    This needs to be eliminated by giving EVERYBODY the chance to vote for THEIR candidate in the primaries...regardless of party line. Right now the system is being ...
    I think the whole system needs to change to a 'real' open primary system.
    I think that campaigning should be for a six month period prior to an open primary...and by open primary I mean OPEN...every candidate for EVERY party runs their campaign EVERYWHERE..the debates still are debates amoungst party candidates. In mid-May EVERY voter votes in ONE primary election. Every voter is considered an independent and has the opportunity to vote for the candidate they wish to support, with total disregard for party affiliation... instead of having to pick sides. The top two candidates from two different parties with the most votes are declared the 'candidates' that will run for the presidency. If it is a Democrat and Green party candidate, or a Republican and a Progressive candidate then so be it...that is obviously the CHOICE people want.
    I believe that this system we use now only benefits the FIGHT...the separation of the populous and instigates conspiracy by limiting the field. It invites a 'third party' candidate to run, thus creating an environment whereby a person can become president with less than 50% of the vote.
    This needs to be eliminated by giving EVERYBODY the chance to vote for THEIR candidate in the primaries...regardless of party line. Right now the system is being played by the system..., the candidates and their supporters from both sides have figured out how to game the system, and it starting to appear that a handful of eastern states are choosing who our candidates will be.
    EVERY citizen should have the opportunity to choose the candidates, and vote for the candidates based on their ideas and direction...not by party.
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  • safari NoBama Man 2012/01/13 01:36:17
    safari
    +2
    Those are really great points NoBama - I'll be thinking about your answer. Previously I didn't see any benefits to it at all really.
  • NoBama Man NoBama Man 2012/01/13 06:54:26
    NoBama Man
    +1
    This pretty much eliminates the problem of party rolling (as I call it)...where so called 'independents' go to primaries to vote only for the purpose of altering results...as we are seeing today and undoubtedly in the past. With this 'open primary' system, that tactic is not in your best interest...you are pretty much bound to vote for YOUR candidate or 'risk' that candidate not being in the top two and being able to run for the presidency. With ALL of the primary voting happening within a 2-3 day voting period EVERYWHERE simultaneously you will have a higher voter turn out with enthusiasm in a real race. After the 6-month primary campaign and vote...you then have the top 2 who will then have another 6 month campaign program from May to November for the national election, deciding the next POTUS.
    It is fair, ALL inclusive and efficient. Right now we have an archaic system where 5 relatively obscure states who's combined population is less than the population of CA, equal to the population of Texas, and only slightly more than the population of NY, are choosing for an entire nation who will be running for presidency. We are currently electing officials for basically a 2 yr. term...2 years of actual policy work, followed up with 2 years of campaigning...and this POTUS has taken that to an even further extreme...he never QUIT campaigning and that needs to end.
  • safari NoBama Man 2012/01/15 04:58:29
    safari
    OK so could it turn out that say ( to use labels ) two dems or two reps could be chosen rather than one of each party?
  • NoBama Man safari 2012/01/15 06:05:11 (edited)
    NoBama Man
    +1
    NO....the top two candidates from separate parties...'The top two candidates from two different parties with the most votes are declared the 'candidates' that will run for the presidency. If it is a Democrat and Green party candidate, or a Republican and a Progressive candidate then so be it...that is obviously the CHOICE people want.'...this way you have to vote for YOUR candidate...at risk of YOUR candidate not being in the top two....With EVERY voter 'considered' an independent, you could choose to vote for whomever you want in the primary...i.e. if you liked Obama (God Forbid) YOU could vote for him in the primary...it eliminates the 3rd party candidate in the national election, by letting people CHOOSE in the primary.
  • safari NoBama Man 2012/01/16 02:10:48
    safari
    +1
    hmm that is an interesting concept - I'm still wrapping my head around it thanks!
  • Seonag 2012/01/12 14:21:29
    There are good and bad things about open primaries
    Seonag
    +1
    I am no longer 'registered' with a party because I'm not happy with the leadership, though I am with many members and lower level leaders. I'd rather give my money directly to the candidates I like right now than the party. So a closed primary would leave me out.
  • safari Seonag 2012/01/12 18:15:47
    safari
    +3
    That is why I joined the party I am in where I live now - they have closed primaries otherwise I would most probably be an independent. But I don't think it matters because previous to 08 I always voted my conscious rather than a party line ticket anyway. But now that the dems' agenda has become so extreme I probably won't ever vote for another dem again.
  • Seonag safari 2012/01/12 20:54:06
    Seonag
    +3
    Agree with you on all you said! Fortunately I don't live in a state with a 'closed' primary.
  • BlueMax372 Seonag 2012/05/29 23:44:50
    BlueMax372
    Move to one. I did. I never liked the open primary system in VA and when the dumbed-down electorate elevated a Democrat scumtard to the governorship, I knew it was time to go. Sure enough, they raised taxes...and I laughed even harder at my escape timing!
  • Seonag BlueMax372 2012/05/30 15:36:11
    Seonag
    +1
    Well, since my husband HAS a job that pays well and we live in a state with no Income Tax, we'll hang here a bit longer.
  • BlueMax372 Seonag 2012/05/30 23:27:13
    BlueMax372
    +1
    In the meantime, lobby your state legislators to change your primary system to one that makes sense.
  • JessyBear 2012/01/12 12:41:08
    I don't like open primaries because
    JessyBear
    +1
    I think those committed or independents should be allowed to vote - but on the other hand I would like to do away with the two party system - I would like to do away with money buying elections and only allow individuals to contribute. No unions, no corporation, no lobby groups - enough is enough. It should not be the man with the most money wins, it should be the man with the best ideas to save our country.
  • safari JessyBear 2012/01/12 18:16:52
    safari
    +2
    I totally agree with you. I would like to get rid of parties altogether! That would be great to disallow huge organizations to contribute.
  • JessyBear safari 2012/01/12 23:03:19
    JessyBear
    +2
    I would also like picture id's. If you think about it Obama has raised 64 million and Romney is at 24 million - all that money wasted. Can't we find better things to spend the money on. It like paying for a wresting match - and we are the real lossers
  • safari JessyBear 2012/01/13 01:38:38
    safari
    +1
    So true - it's a huge waste of money to glorify a hand full of people. And if we need picture id's to pawn a watch - we surely ought to need them to vote.

    The unions require them to vote - but yet they push not needed them in political elections. It's sick

    union voter id
  • Racefish 2012/01/12 12:25:45
    I don't like open primaries because
    Racefish
    +3
    Letting members of the other party vote in your party's primary is the same as selling your own party out.
  • safari Racefish 2012/01/12 18:18:07
    safari
    +2
    That is how I feel about it too - it's just kind of nutty to allow the left choose the right's candidate and vice versa.
  • Racefish safari 2012/01/12 19:09:19
    Racefish
    +2
    Absolutely.
  • jams 2012/01/12 12:20:52
    I like open primaries because
    jams
    +1
    Special interests and minority activists can't control the outcome as easily - proven by McCain's early losses in 2008.
  • safari jams 2012/01/12 18:18:39
    safari
    +2
    Thanks Jams..
  • Wolfman 2012/01/12 08:06:13
    I don't like open primaries because
    Wolfman
    +2
    The opposition party can vote for a poor candidate.
  • safari Wolfman 2012/01/12 18:19:19
    safari
    +2
    And that is what they do when they don't have a runner like this year - the dems basically have obama and that's it.
  • Wolfman safari 2012/01/12 19:42:12
    Wolfman
    +2
    In New Hampshire the Republican primary was loaded with Progressives and other Democrats. Exit polls show that they like to vote for Ron Paul.
  • safari Wolfman 2012/01/13 01:39:39
    safari
    +2
    That is interesting I can't wait until we see the results of a few closed primaries.
  • Brian Tristan MacQuillan 2012/01/12 07:58:31
    I don't like open primaries because
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    It makes no sense to let someone who is registered something other than a Republican have any say in who is the nominee (likewise for Democrats, or any other party).
  • safari Brian T... 2012/01/12 18:19:46
    safari
    +1
    I agree - it makes no sense at all - to me anyway.
  • Brian T... safari 2012/01/12 21:29:05
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    Right. And it is a state thing; we do not have open anything in Pennsylvania. Just seems strange to me to allow people outside of the party to decide. Even the word caucus suggest it is within the party; "Members of a political party or subgroup may meet to coordinate members' actions, choose group policy, or nominate candidates for various offices." Yet, other states have these open primaries.

    The Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina... sequence makes sense to me, since a candidate with moderate funding can get a foothold, and then garner more financial support for coming primaries. Whereas, if the primaries took place all at once, or in the same one week, or two week window, the campaign with the most money would win (since it could cover all of the states at once); as opposed to concentrating on one state at a time.

    Letting voters outside of the party decide on the party's candidate just seems to be counter intuitive.
  • safari Brian T... 2012/01/13 01:40:54
    safari
    +1
    I think so to under the current system. Nobama - a few comments above here - came up with an interesting idea.
  • Brian T... safari 2012/01/13 09:07:04
    Brian Tristan MacQuillan
    +1
    I saw it. I am not for big changes to "fix" things.

    I stated why Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina going first was wise; which is kind of the same thing as not having popular vote decided the presidential election.

    Open primaries are state by state, and only so many have them, so it is like whatever. I do not like it, since I think it lets non-members of a party vote for a party's nominee. To me, that makes zero sense. In primaries here, Pennsylvania, you vote within your party period. That leaves some new transplants here miffed, but too bad. If you are an independent (or some other party) what business do you have voting in a Republican or Democrat race? None, as far as I am concerned.
  • Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/01/12 07:42:38
    There are good and bad things about open primaries
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +2
    Open primaries allow independents to vote so that is good but the bad is the cross overs who only do it to try to skew the results and get people out front who they think they can defeat. The results in NH this year show that republicans wanted Romney while Paul and Huntsman got democrats . I dunno - I can argue either side of this one comfortably
  • safari Jackie ... 2012/01/12 18:23:13
    safari
    +1
    My state is closed - forcing me to enter a party to be able to vote in primaries - but I think it's ok - yet if they allowed independents to vote either party I might become an independent. The years like this year where there is no runner against obama (to speak of) is the year they dems really turn out in the open primaries to vote for who they think will be easy to beat.
  • Jackie ... safari 2012/01/12 18:28:46
    Jackie G - Poker Playing Patriot
    +1
    Yes they are and take a good look who they are pushing, not good
  • safari Jackie ... 2012/01/13 01:41:20
  • grandma 2012/01/12 06:18:09
    I don't like open primaries because
    grandma
    +1
    Why would you think that open primaires are good? If you are of one belief and trying to put someone in that represents this I would not think that it is good to open it up to the ones that want to stop your representation in Government. You know that someone will go to the opposite side and try to undermind the belief of the people of that party. I can not believe that anyone thinks that this is a great idea. You know that some would try to put in a candidate that is not going to help their cause. Please tell me someone where this idea and why it came into play!

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