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Do you buy Obama's claim on the campaign stump, “Federal spending since I took office has risen at the slowest pace of any President in almost 60 years." ?

Steverno~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/17 14:28:13
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The U.S. has never before had a President who thinks so little of the American people that he imagines he can win re-election running on the opposite of reality. But that is the reality of President Obama today.

Waving a planted press commentary, Obama recently claimed on the campaign stump, “federal spending since I took office has risen at the slowest pace of any President in almost 60 years.”

Peggy Noonan aptly summarized in last weekend’s Wall Street Journal the take away by the still holding majority of Americans living in the real world:

“There is, now, a house-of-cards feel about this administration. It became apparent some weeks ago when the President talked on the stump – where else? – about an essay by a fellow who said spending growth [under Obama] is actually lower than that of previous Presidents. This was startling to a lot of people, who looked into it and found the man had left out most spending from 2009, the first year of Mr. Obama’s Presidency. People sneered: The President was deliberately using a misleading argument to paint a false picture! But you know, why would he go out there waiving an article that could immediately be debunked? Maybe because he thought it was true. That’s more alarming, isn’t it, the idea that he knows so little about the effects of his own economic program that he thinks he really is a low spender.”

What this shows most importantly is that the recognition is starting to break through to the general public regarding the President’s rhetorical strategy that I’ve have been calling Calculated Deception. The latter is deliberately using a misleading argument to paint a false picture. That has been a central Obama practice not only throughout his entire presidency, but also as the foundation of his 2008 campaign strategy, and actually throughout his whole career.

Rest assured, Ms. Noonan, that the President is not as nuts as he may seem at times. He knows very well that he is not a careful spender. His whole mission is to transform the U.S. not into a Big Government country, but a Huge Government country, because only a country run by a Huge Government can be satisfactorily controlled by superior, all wise and beneficent individuals like himself. That is why he is at minimum a Swedish socialist, if not worse. Notice, though, how far behind the times he and his weak minded supporters are, as even the Swedes have abandoned Swedish socialism as a failure.

The analysis by Internet commentator Rex Nutting on which Obama based his claim begins by telling us “What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress.” Not exactly.

The previous administration, or President, proposes a budget. The previous Congress approves a budget. And what Congress approves can be radically different from what the President proposes.

As Art Laffer and Steve Moore showed in the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday, President Bush began a spending spree in his term that erased most of the gains in reduced government spending as a percent of GDP achieved by the Republican Congress in the 1990s led by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, in conjunction with President Clinton. But for fiscal year 2009, President Bush in February, 2008 proposed a budget with just a 3% spending increase over the prior year. Fiscal year 2009 ran from October 1, 2008 until September 30, 2009. President Obama’s term began on January 20, 2009.

Recall, however, that in 2008 Congress was controlled by Democrat majorities, with Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House, and the restless Senator Obama already running for President, just four years removed from his glorious career as a state Senator in the Illinois legislature. As Hans Bader reported on May 26 for the Washington Examiner, the budget approved and implemented by Pelosi, Obama and the rest of the Congressional Democrat majorities provided for a 17.9 percent increase in spending for fiscal 2009!

Actually, President Obama and the Democrats were even more deeply involved in the fiscal 2009 spending explosion than that. As Bader also reports, “The Democrat Congress [in 2008], confident Obama was going to win in 2008, passed only three of fiscal 2009’s 12 appropriations bills (Defense, Military Construction and Veterans Affairs, and HomelandSecurity). The Democrat Congress passed the rest of them [in 2009], and [President] Obama signed them.” So Obama played a very direct role in the runaway fiscal 2009 spending explosion.

Note as well that President Reagan didn’t just go along with the wild spending binge of the previous Democratic Congress for fiscal year 1981 when he came into office on January 20 of that year. Almost no one remembers now the much vilified at the time 1981 Reagan budget cuts, his first major legislative initiative. Then Democrat Rep. Phil Gramm joined with Ohio Republican Del Latta to push through the Democratic House $31 billion in Reagan proposed budget cuts to the fiscal year 1981 budget, which totaled $681 billion, resulting in a cut of nearly 5% in that budget. Obama could have done the exact same thing when he entered office in January, 2009, even more so with the Congress totally controlled by his own party at the time.

Reagan then ramped up the spending cuts from there. In nominal terms, non-defense discretionary spending actually declined by 7.1% from 1981 to 1982. But roaring inflation at the time actually masks the true magnitude of the Reagan spending cut achievement. In constant dollars, non-defense discretionary spending declined by 14.4% from 1981 to 1982, and by 16.8% from 1981 to 1983. Moreover, in constant dollars, this non-defense discretionary spending never returned to its 1981 level for the rest of Reagan’s two terms! By 1988, this spending was still down 14.4% from its 1981 level in constant dollars.

Read the rest of the article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2012/06/14/president...

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  • dallas Christo... 2012/06/17 22:32:27
  • HOMBRE dallas 2012/06/17 22:53:23
  • dallas HOMBRE 2012/06/17 22:55:31
  • WinterLynn dallas 2012/06/17 23:31:47
    WinterLynn
    +7
    Why do you keep bringing up the KKK when it was the Democratic party who created the KKK? Are you really that dumb?

    You loons had a KKK Racist Loon in your party for decades.
  • dallas WinterLynn 2012/06/18 18:38:48
  • WinterLynn dallas 2012/06/17 23:26:43
    WinterLynn
    +4
    Really? We could say the same about you. Yep you liberals are real smart.




  • Christo... dallas 2012/06/18 13:37:39
    Christopher Kirchen
    +1
    You don't get it, I'm not disputing that; what I AM saying is that the Democrats are no better.
  • WinterLynn dallas 2012/06/17 23:23:12
    WinterLynn
    +7
    LOL Obama is not a LIAR?

    Here*** Sit back and listen to LIE after LIE after LIE. Have Fun. Or more likely than not you'll deny the FACTUAL TRUTH about your MESSIAH.
    Obama s lies
  • HOMBRE 2012/06/17 22:09:32
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    HOMBRE
    +7
    Thats all the clown knows how to do is lie.When his lips move he is lying obama lips move he is lying
  • Elementer 2012/06/17 22:00:02
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    Elementer
    Well, we wouldn't be spending so much if we pulled out of the Middle East and cut our military in half.
  • WinterLynn Elementer 2012/06/17 23:33:20
    WinterLynn
    +3
    We don't need to cut our Military in half. What needs to be done is to cut all of these failed Social Welfare/Entitlement programs for those who simply want others to do for them what they should be doing for themselves.

    IMO.
  • Elementer WinterLynn 2012/06/18 01:49:20
    Elementer
    Funny you should say that, our military basically is a failed welfare system. Our military is constantly aiding countries and fighting their wars. And we have expensive bases in countries that haven't had conflicts for decades.

    Basically, with the whole Arab Spring thing, everyone's like "it doesn't matter if we can't win, America will help us no matter what the cost financially and physically, as long as we say we're for democracy."

    And we take the bait every time, sending thousands of soldiers, millions in military help, and eventually billions as the years progress. Sad thing is, a lot of these conflicts are unwinnable.

    Yet helping our own citizens seems to be a horrid crime.

    IMO.
  • Wulfdane 2012/06/17 21:57:30 (edited)
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    Wulfdane
    +2
    Lets see...... Revenue is down due to high unemployment, and now Obama wants to take credit for less taxes being spent? Does that mean he is going to take credit for our stagnation? Nice try Obama, you fail.

    The problem is Obama ignores the fact we have actually increased spending, we have just borrowed from China to pay for it.

    Hence why the deficit has increased from $11 trillion to $15 trillion.
  • zbacku 2012/06/17 21:55:33
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  • Joel 2012/06/17 21:53:24
    I believe Obama because....
    Joel
    The issue is the pace of federal spending. The rate of its growth. That has slowed as the President stated. True.
  • zbacku Joel 2012/06/17 21:56:29
  • sbtbill 2012/06/17 21:41:18
    I believe Obama because....
    sbtbill
    The statistics back him up.
  • sbtbill sbtbill 2012/06/17 21:47:56
    sbtbill
    Reagan may have cut non-defense spending but he ballooned defense spending.
  • zbacku sbtbill 2012/06/17 21:56:43
  • WinterLynn sbtbill 2012/06/17 23:35:00
  • Space Invader 2012/06/17 21:40:50
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Space Invader
    +3
    he loves the lie more than the truth
  • baboula 2012/06/17 21:25:19
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    baboula
    +3
    because he can't help himself
  • Treasure ♥ijm♥ 2012/06/17 21:24:17
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Treasure ♥ijm♥
    +4
    He should be ashamed to say what it really is....and of course we all know how he lies. He's trying to make himself look good.....the heat is on. I wouldn't believe Obama even if pigs knew how to fly.

    obama liar flying
  • Dana 2012/06/17 20:40:08
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    +3
    He should resign!
  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/17 20:33:35
    I believe Obama because....
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    You added bush's off the books war costs to Obama in your graph.
  • Alex 2012/06/17 20:19:55
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Alex
    +5
    He's a liar, and it's not even subtle anymore...
  • john Kills 2012/06/17 20:12:24
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    If he's going to lie, he should at least lie about something that's almost believable.
  • ed 2012/06/17 20:10:09
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    ed
    +5
    because he lies about everything anyway,so how can anyone know he tells the truth unless of course he just missspoke.
  • Brat 2012/06/17 20:09:10 (edited)
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Brat
    +5
    The man is delusional! Me thinks he smokes a little too much Ganja.
  • Susan 2012/06/17 19:54:32
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Susan
    +4
    he is delusional.
  • Matt Gray 2012/06/17 19:50:19
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Matt Gray
    +5
    It's obviously not true. If anything the opposite is true. Federal spending since Obama has taken office has SKY ROCKETED. Solyndra, GSA, Auto Bail outs, Bank Bail outs, Obamacare, and more. That's just a sample. No administration in history has spent or lied more than the Obama administration.
  • ed Matt Gray 2012/06/17 20:12:28
    ed
    +3
    that is a record in it's self and he will go down in history for just that.
  • whiteco... Matt Gray 2012/06/21 23:52:15 (edited)
    whitecollar
    Even though the president entered office in 2009, the fiscal year 2009 spending for October 2008 to September 2009 was requested by President Bush and worsened by his policies.
    The Congressional Budget Office noted that President Obama inherited $1.2 trillion of the total $1.4 trillion deficit for 2009. The president has reduced the deficit nearly every year. The president has cut the deficit every year except for one.
    Between 2009 and 2012, the president will have reduced the deficit by $312 billion. Put another way, the president has cut the deficit by nearly 25 percent -- so far. No wonder the Republicans have to lie. The truth is too damaging to their prospects

    . Political spending graphs 2012
  • Matt Gray whiteco... 2012/06/22 00:21:13 (edited)
    Matt Gray
    +1
    Yet...he still quadrupled the national debt. You liberals would know wouldn't you? You guys practically came up with and perfected the art of lying. Truth hurts I suppose...not that you would would know..coming in here with a wall of hyperbole and a photoshopped propaganda picture rofl.
  • whiteco... Matt Gray 2012/06/22 00:34:57
    whitecollar
    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.

    J. Kenneth Gailbraith
  • Matt Gray whiteco... 2012/06/22 01:14:16
    Matt Gray
    +1
    ...and fail. Pleasure talking to you....
  • Diane Spraggs Yates 2012/06/17 19:39:36
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +5
    Liar -in-Chief He twist everything around then blames Bush !!!!!
  • ed Diane S... 2012/06/17 20:12:57
    ed
    +6
    or congress
  • Diane S... ed 2012/06/17 21:18:40
    Diane Spraggs Yates
    +3
    Congress is getting blamed because everyone is tired of him blaming Bush after his 1st term and hopefully his last !!!!!
  • cindy 2012/06/17 19:31:03
    I think Obama would lie about his spending record because....
    cindy
    +5
    I think he would lie about Anything ....... The man is unbelievable period ....... He would throw anybody under the bus to get his radical agenda thru , including the American people ......

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