What ever it takes is what it takes with these lunatics. Armed combatants out of uniform are not protected by the Geneva Convention Accords. In fact, they can be shot on the spot which is what probably should have happened in the first place.
These are not nice, humane human beings we are dealing with. They HATE you because of who you are and where you live. All this namby-pamby, thumb sucking crowd whining needs to cease and lets get on with wiping out vermin.
That's my spin.
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The Frog Prince 2009/08/25 12:35:05
But the fact remains that the CIA is controlled by a set of powerful people who intend to maintain a situation which's most suited to their requirement.
As for the means, they'll use it even if we don't want them to because there's no one who wants to be put against a wall for having spoken about them.
Even if not, they simply won't give a fig about the rules !!
The same Taliban now equipped with American dollars and weaponry had all the time and money to think about screwing America (loyalty can be forgotten for that matter !!).
After 9/11, America continued to pump Pakistan with money to fight the Taliban. Needless to say, the funds were diverted for causes otherwise.
Had America stepped into the fray neglecting world protocol during the Afghan conflict and not armed the locals, the Taliban wouldn't be where they are today !!
The issue was not about the fighting them Russians, the intermediary Afghans were the problem. America armed and financed them but did not withdraw the remaining cash and guns.
That's where the issue began :)
When we come out and say we want to be civil to the radical, kill-the-great-satan (USA & Brittain), evil, commie bastards...and by we I mean this administration & the media perpetuating it...I am sure that the terrorists are shaking in their boots. (Shaking cuz they are laughing so hard that the American leaders are so stupid & naive).
what are you even talking with this second statement? who are the commie bastards everyone wants to kill, supposedly? if you honestly think that by torturing these people, they're going to stop and tell you all their plans, you listen to way too much propaganda. Turn off Rush and think for yourself for a little while will ya? we don't have to give them Constitutional rights... but torturing them only proves their point about our country, leads to much misinformation that slows us down and ultimately sabotages our efforts and wastes resources.
Terrorists blow up airplanes,buildings and they could even put a dirty bomb in any city in the USA,and people are busy worrying about what will the international community will say,that I think is what happen with the Lockerbie terrorist who was just pardon and is free without any remorse and can still do more damage,that is political correctness at work,criminals and terrorist's rights are more important than victims rights.
In Forign Countries, Far Away, From Home!
They Need to do Whatever is Needed, to Do Thier Job & Secure our Nation. What ever an American can think of or do. Won't be as bad as what the islamo's & others, will do!
Like Cut-Off Your Head! We Don't Do That! & Won't!
DEO VINDICE!
Were those bombs planted by the US?
conspiracy theorist
You know...that's a great-sounding platitude and may make you feel humane and all, but in your heart-of-hearts, if one of those terrorists threatened your life or killed a loved one right in front of you for no reason...you'd be the 1st one in life to cut off their balls.
If I am faced personally, obviously I would fight for my life, as anyone would. I have, in fact. That has nothing to do with torturing people. It is not a defense for lawlessness by the CIA.
I have faith in America.....and it is the good people with American values that I am talking about.
As far as terrorist killing 3000 people on 9-11, there has been 4500 killed in Iraq. Has this been a terrorist act? Has torture in that country produced anything? Would you rather be captured by an enemy that we have not tortured their people or one that we have tortured their people? And I am not just talking about terrorist.
" Would you rather be captured by an enemy that we have not tortured their people or one that we have tortured their people? And I am not just talking about terrorist."
Building our intelligence and defense policies on the basis of which methods our enemies would prefer that we use is both dangerous and dumb. Besides, I don't plan life around what I will do if I'm ever...
" Would you rather be captured by an enemy that we have not tortured their people or one that we have tortured their people? And I am not just talking about terrorist."
Building our intelligence and defense policies on the basis of which methods our enemies would prefer that we use is both dangerous and dumb. Besides, I don't plan life around what I will do if I'm ever captured by our enemies. I plan life around defeating them. And I promise if a terrorist ever captures you, it won't make one bit of difference whether we tortured other terrorists or not. He will cut your head off and not think twice about it, unless we give ourselves a chance to gather information that can prevent it.
You know if this was about other countries who had signed treaties like Geneva, we wouldn't even be talking about it. They would follow the rules of war and we would too. But these are people who cannot and will not be stopped using courts or treaties or stern talking-to's from the UN. The rules have changed and we have absolutely no chance of keeping up without changing too. They know a lot of us will defend their human rights, even in their complete absence of humanity, and they are finding anew way everyday of using it against us. Just because people aren't aware that the warped way they think lends support to terrorism, doesn't mean they aren't complicit.