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Do you believe that the GM government bailout was a good thing?

Gracie - Proud Conservative 2012/08/18 19:28:53
Yes, he saved the American automotive industry...
No, it was a travesty for all involved...
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First, let's get up to speed...watch this video so you can see how the money was borrowed and how it is being paid back.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/08/15/taxpayers-gm-investmen...

Now, watch this video and see if you're as proud of GM and saving it as you should be. If you don't watch it, don't comment.


So, why does there continue to be so much proof that it's Obama that is directly and fragrantly outsourcing our tax dollars, and you still don't believe it?
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  • The Lib Hater. 2012/08/18 23:01:56 (edited)
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    The Lib Hater.
    +82
    They are losing market share, and building a crappier product, and in the case of the Volt it is way overpriced. In other words, nothing has changed at GM. They haven't lowered their labor cost, their materials cost. This company is going down. It's been said before, some companies have a marketing problem, some a product problem, some have a labor problem, and some have management problems. GM has all those problems. Here we have 0bama running around handing out our money to state, and local governments knowing he can't do it forever, because sooner or later GM is going to drive right into reality, and guess who will get hurt the most? The sucker taxpayer. The subject, not the citizen. Now you Libs out there still want to know how 0bama is taking away our rights? Yep we are forcefully invested in GM. See libs if I had rights in this country, I would invest in what I WANT to INVEST in. Not what 0bama wants me to invest in. Let 0bama invest his own money in GM. Just leave us the hell alone.
    General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again... From Forbes.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/l...

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  • Herb 2012/08/19 21:47:58
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    Herb
    +3
    we lost money on the deal stock was 33 share when we bought it 503 shares now 22 a share they still owe us 46b. wow it was really worth it huh, no obama saved union jobs and pentions. id they would have went chap 13 could have restructured chap7 full blown they could have been making money. ford didn't take penny and is making money lol.
  • Susan 2012/08/19 21:44:35
    Undecided
    Susan
    +2
    Ask Henry Ford.
  • Tinka123 2012/08/19 21:41:52
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    Tinka123
    +2
    Simply put - No. Furthermore, I'm kinda troubled by this...
  • JT For Political Reform 2012/08/19 21:26:51
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    JT For Political Reform
    +4
    It was nothing but a political ploy to convince the Auto union and it's members that Obama had their back. As it turned out, we wound up supporting our own government to buy GM cars (79% of GM sales are by the government) and to fund plant building in China to employ Chinese workers. GM should have went into bankruptcy first and then if needed we should have given them tax dollars to help them only with the exception that those dollars stayed in the US and be paid back.
  • Todd The Libertarian 2012/08/19 21:12:01
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    Todd The Libertarian
    No pure socialism.I own a buissness if I start to go under is Obama going to help me?Same with Dubya Paul Ryan n the banks.Corporate wellfare is what I call it.
  • Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO 2012/08/19 21:03:47
    Yes, he saved the American automotive industry...
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    Yes, and if by "he" you mean Bush/Paulson TARP funds that did it.
  • Herb Joe Shw... 2012/08/19 21:49:04
    Herb
    +4
    bush would have never did it that way he would have let them go bankrupt and then help them not pay the unions off like obama did.
  • Joe Shw... Herb 2012/08/19 21:53:18
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    Revisionist history on your part.

  • debra.faber 2012/08/19 20:22:18
    Yes, he saved the American automotive industry...
    debra.faber
    +1
    I think the folks whose jobs were saved, and one of the great industries in our country deserved the helping hand - happy to have helped. Thank you President Obama.
  • wilsonmja debra.f... 2012/08/19 21:15:29
    wilsonmja
    +5
    GM employs 74,500 people in the United States. The other 122,000 people are employed in other countries. Less than 1 in 5 GM vehicles are actually made in the US.
  • debra.f... wilsonmja 2012/09/13 03:34:12
    debra.faber
    So, we saved 74,500 jobs in this country? And this is a problem?
  • debra.f... debra.f... 2012/09/13 03:39:50
    debra.faber
    And folks in Ohio, Michigan, Tennessee, Missouri, Louisiana and Kansas are extremely appreciative that they have jobs. Thanks to all of us. Thanks President Obama
  • wilsonmja debra.f... 2012/09/13 06:46:54
    wilsonmja
    No, the problem is that all of GM's jobs could be in America instead of our bailout tax dollars going to pay for salaries that support foreign economies/
  • debra.f... wilsonmja 2012/09/13 22:13:07
    debra.faber
    You're right, I guess it would be better if 74,500+ jobs were non existent and that many more folks were on unemployment. I guess you are definitely voting for Obama, as he is the only candidate that will work for tax credits for those who create jobs here in America, and will close loopholes granting any incentive for those who ship jobs overseas.
  • wilsonmja debra.f... 2012/09/14 05:54:06
    wilsonmja
    No, I don't vote for republicans or democrats nor am I delusional enough to believe there is a difference.
  • Herb debra.f... 2012/08/19 21:49:22 (edited)
    Herb
    +2
    we lost money on the deal stock was 33 share when we bought it 503 shares now 22 a share they still owe us 46b. wow it was really worth it huh, no obama saved union jobs and pentions. if they would have went chap 13 could have restructured chap7 full blown they could have been making money. ford didn't take penny and is making money lol.
  • debra.f... Herb 2012/09/13 03:31:35
    debra.faber
    23.13 today and on the rise - proud of them! Happy that segment of the economy is recovering.
  • Herb debra.f... 2012/09/13 16:16:21
    Herb
    you proud of obama or gm he should have let them go chap 13 and restructure they would have made more money by now it was the unions who didnt want to loose in the deal.
  • heirsof... debra.f... 2012/08/19 22:08:52
    heirsoftheking
    +2
    Would you buy a GM? I wouldn't.
  • Rusty S... heirsof... 2012/08/19 23:11:58
    Rusty Shackleford
    +1
    Never again, never.
  • debra.f... heirsof... 2012/09/13 03:17:01
    debra.faber
    Absolutely.
  • BifDaddy debra.f... 2012/08/19 22:26:54 (edited)
    BifDaddy
    +1
    Take your blinders off honey.
  • debra.f... BifDaddy 2012/09/13 03:17:22
    debra.faber
    I will when you do sweetie.
  • Gracie ... debra.f... 2012/08/20 02:19:41
    Gracie - Proud Conservative
    And a big screw you to all that didn't work there?
  • debra.f... Gracie ... 2012/09/13 03:19:01
    debra.faber
    False equivalencies, again? That dog don't hunt.
  • Common ... debra.f... 2012/08/20 07:24:10
    Common Sense Conservative
    You have no clue.
  • debra.f... Common ... 2012/09/13 03:17:47
    debra.faber
    Well, at least I'm not a Raiders fan.
  • Common ... debra.f... 2012/09/14 17:47:33
    Common Sense Conservative
    Another liberal comeback when they know they've been defeated.
  • BILL 2012/08/19 20:19:06
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    BILL
    +1
    Just gave the Auto company's time to move out of the country with Tax Payer Money
  • stevegtexas@aol.com 2012/08/19 19:59:46 (edited)
    Undecided
    stevegtexas@aol.com
    stevegtexas@aol.com ANSWERED: john steven grissom fort worth texas USA. What happened to the, "share and stock holders?" did they lose their assets/investments? What about the GM retirees with pensions? or did they get "buyouts?" across the board? Do you believe that the GM government bailout was a good thing?
    by Gracie - Proud Conservative Posted August 18, 2012
  • Centrist_Bill 2012/08/19 19:46:45
    Undecided
    Centrist_Bill
    In a way it was a good thing but in a way it was bad. Bailing out GM saved a ton of jobs but only temporarily. Personally I think GM needs to downsize a bit and concentrate on the big sellers.
  • rebar4444 2012/08/19 19:40:52
    Yes, he saved the American automotive industry...
    rebar4444
    +2
    Wasnt a bailout. It was a loan that is being paid back in full. Very successful.
  • Herb rebar4444 2012/08/19 21:50:39
    Herb
    +1
    it is really better look at the numbers again my friend
    we lost money on the deal stock was 33 share when we bought it 503 shares now 22 a share they still owe us 46b. wow it was really worth it huh, no obama saved union jobs and pentions. if they would have went chap 13 could have restructured chap7 full blown they could have been making money. ford didn't take penny and is making money lol.
  • diane RN Herb 2012/08/19 23:41:45
    diane RN
    When Ford refused the tarp money I bought 30,000 shares @ $2.19. At one point last year it hit 18. The only reason I bought was because I so disagreed with the bailout and my disgust for Obama. I guess I should thank him, lol.
  • rebar4444 Herb 2013/01/21 09:17:14
    rebar4444
    Ford just got bailout money elsewhere than the government. Learn the facts. GM cars are much better and fuel efficient. Your republican hate cant look at facts like that. Amazing. Please dont stop this hate. I never want to see a republican president with so much hate again. Please continue the devisiveness and hypocracy
  • MW121 2012/08/19 19:30:34
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    MW121
    +1
    Waste of tax payer money and they still are in debit... What a waste
  • Wolf 2012/08/19 18:44:12
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    Wolf
    +1
    It has continued the operation of a poorly management firm that is still over $60 Billion in debt and losing money...it violated the US Bankruptcy laws and showed that there is no Justice in this country...
  • Mike W 2012/08/19 18:38:09
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    Mike W
    +1
    It basicly screwed the people who invested their money in GM and paid the union back for electing Obama. really did you know that when an auto worker for the GM would get laid off the company would pay the difference of unemployment and what their check was, How can a company thrive when it has to subsidise employees unemployment ? If the bail out was so good how come ford didn't need it and GM is stuck building all th egreen BS cars that Obama wants but no one else wants to buy.
  • TerryAgee 2012/08/19 18:22:14
    Undecided
    TerryAgee
    Only time will tell, I was also against the WS bailout!
  • eliosc 2012/08/19 18:16:25
    No, it was a travesty for all involved...
    eliosc
    +1
    If you let the government do the job of the private sector, the results may be catastrophic.

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