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Do you believe that racial diversity is a "strategic imperative" to the US military?

Heisenberg 2009/11/11 20:04:11
Yes, less white people in the military makes the US military better
No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
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"In wake of the Nidal Hasan murder spree at Fort Hood, there is another interesting story demonstrating the depths of leftist crazy-talk at the DOD including the military leadership and our service academies"

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  • justice f 2009/11/11 20:13:13
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    justice f
    +12
    Diversity may become our down fall. Political correctness already killed 13 unarmed soldiers.

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  • Blasphameer 2009/12/28 04:41:45
    Yes, less white people in the military makes the US military better
    Blasphameer
    Let's see how shipping White guys as undercover CIA agents in the Mid-East works. Islamic Terrorist: "Hey! You guys aren't arabs!!!!!"
  • scout14j 2009/11/20 12:46:55
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    scout14j
    +1
    You should be able to serve in the military without fear of being discriminated against...However, it shouldn't be such a witch-hunt atmosphere to where people are afraid to speak out against questionable acts for fear of being labeled a racist or bigot.
  • countessK 2009/11/18 02:16:01
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    countessK
    +1
    Obviously.
  • goatman112003 2009/11/17 21:26:52
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    goatman112003
    +1
    One of the things about the military is the ability of minorities to get ahead based on performance and not quotas which is opposed to society. Either you are successful or the answer is no excuses sir.
  • scout14j goatman... 2009/11/20 12:47:55
    scout14j
    +1
    There are quotas in the military.
  • Michael 2009/11/17 20:57:15
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Michael
    +1
    The military is a perfect blend of people that need to support each other as brothers, especially in battle. Diversity is a killer of that. We are all the same under the skin, with the same needs.
  • John Alverez 2009/11/17 10:31:17
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    John Alverez
    +1
    They should be able to hire based on the racial needs and if they need more Asian people one month and less the next, or Causation people one month and less the next, I'm Okay with that because the military needs different races that are American's to gather intelligence.
  • Live Free Or Die 2009/11/16 12:51:20
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Live Free Or Die
    +1
    I think this goes without saying, but racial diversity may be a necessary component in recruiting good soldiers as well. This is something I don't have much information or knowledge about. Here is what bothers me about the Fort Hood shootings. An abortion clinic should not discriminate against a Christian, or someone with European ancestry who may have Christian relatives or have been brought up Christian. However, if said Christian begins calling abortion murder and shows signs of mental stress, is seemingly extremely angry and upset about the purpose of said clinic, they then should be terminated from their position. I would say the same should have happened with Major Nidal Hasan. Why didn't this happen? Was it political correctness or was there some other reason?
  • Shahada... Live Fr... 2009/11/16 15:56:11
    Shahada Salafist
    +2
    Are you sane?

    Tell me how an abortion clinic who does not discriminate can be compared to an Islamic terrorist.

    One comparison and I would say that this is not your intent, the Islamic terrorist killed less people than an abortion clinic.
    Another comparison: I wouldn't think the abortionist would yell Allah Akbar before killing the babies.
  • Live Fr... Shahada... 2009/11/16 23:59:08 (edited)
    Live Free Or Die
    +2
    You didn't understand what I wrote. I did not compare the actions of an abortionist to a terrorist, though some people feel they are similar. Some people believe that enlisting in the military is good because it serves and protects the United States, and some people think that working for an abortion clinic is good because it provides a service to a woman seeking to terminate a pregnancy safely and legally.

    My point was people who don't support these organizations and make it obvious that they don't, should not be working there.



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  • countessK Live Fr... 2009/11/18 02:21:58 (edited)
    countessK
    +2
    Yes but the military does not just fire people the way an abortion clinic can. Once someone is included in the military they are not so easily let go.

    I don't think either psychiatrists or Muslims should be allowed in the military except under special and unique circumstances. Psychiatrists are sadists and Muslims are terrorists. (Obviously not all but too many to be comfortable).Better to turn to religion (non Islam) than take psych drugs.
  • Live Fr... countessK 2009/11/20 16:52:29 (edited)
    Live Free Or Die
    I understand the points you make, except there is one little problem with excluding all Muslims from the military. Being Muslim is not just defined as religious, but also of parental origin and culturally, as in people of Middle Eastern descent with or without parents who practice in their faith. It is quite possible to have a middle eastern person who has Islamic lineage and may have even been brought up with the faith and maybe not, and others who have no faith at all, and we cannot know what is inside someone's mind either way regardless of what they say, even if they don't attend a mosque, We also can't forget that not all Muslims are from the Middle East, including Americans born to people of such faith, as well as converts, who would ordinarily hold no ill will toward us or have a conflict of interest with us.

    Another problem is that we haven't declared a war on Muslims or jihad, only terrorism and certain countries (I suppose we could exclude foreign Iraqis and Afghans on said basis). I don't know how the FBI/CIA/military defines and identifies potential jihadists. From what I know, some Islamists believe jihad should not be done violently, and it is only to be done to protect their religion, not for political purposes. But if we look deeper, we can see how this becom...

    I understand the points you make, except there is one little problem with excluding all Muslims from the military. Being Muslim is not just defined as religious, but also of parental origin and culturally, as in people of Middle Eastern descent with or without parents who practice in their faith. It is quite possible to have a middle eastern person who has Islamic lineage and may have even been brought up with the faith and maybe not, and others who have no faith at all, and we cannot know what is inside someone's mind either way regardless of what they say, even if they don't attend a mosque, We also can't forget that not all Muslims are from the Middle East, including Americans born to people of such faith, as well as converts, who would ordinarily hold no ill will toward us or have a conflict of interest with us.

    Another problem is that we haven't declared a war on Muslims or jihad, only terrorism and certain countries (I suppose we could exclude foreign Iraqis and Afghans on said basis). I don't know how the FBI/CIA/military defines and identifies potential jihadists. From what I know, some Islamists believe jihad should not be done violently, and it is only to be done to protect their religion, not for political purposes. But if we look deeper, we can see how this becomes an issue, since waging war on their lands or with those who align themselves or sympathize with those we fight against might require some of them to join the call, which then necessitates that the two, politics and religion, will be entertwined, especially where becoming a martyr is part of it and where violence also becomes a part. It should also be noted that while it may be more prevalent in those of Middle Eastern descent or Muslims to identify with the enemy, some non-Muslim Americans can also be traitorous to the cause or sympathetic to our enemies. I think the only possibility for the military in that case is to identify potential traitors and/or enemy combatants (regardless of religion), but in this process, also use markers in the Islamic faith itself to identify statements or ideologies that would indicate that the person is a potential terrorist.

    I do not know what protocols the military uses to identify potential enemy combatants, or otherwise psychotic individuals; I would hope they have some way of checking mental stability. Where psychiatry is concerned, unfortunately some of them are also psychotic or sociopathic. For that reason alone, I have to agree with you. This one seems pretty cut and dried: Let the military contract out for them and not make them a part of the military structure, particularly where military cannot discharge someone so easily. I think the religious/political ideology of this individual needs to be addressed, as well as his psychological profile. It appears he also felt personally persecuted by the military, which indicates mental instability may have also played a factor here. While I'm not convinced that jihadism and sociopathy have to always be mutually exclusive, I suppose it will be up for them to decide.
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  • Shahada... Live Fr... 2009/11/25 00:28:46
    Shahada Salafist
    +1
    Gotcha!
  • Kevin 2009/11/16 05:11:36
    Yes, less white people in the military makes the US military better
    Kevin
    +2
    I am extending my answer to include the whole US.

    Diversity will destroy the US, which is what PC people want.
  • Dwight Mann 2009/11/15 12:29:19
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Dwight Mann
    +1
    The best and brightest should be in the service of our nation. Diversity for the sake of looking PC is weak. . .
  • Shahada... Dwight ... 2009/11/16 15:56:55
    Shahada Salafist
    +1
    The military has been used for social engineering for some time now.
  • copyman 2009/11/15 05:39:37
  • David W. Landes 2009/11/14 22:01:06
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    David W. Landes
    +2
    As we worry more about the Political Correctness and meeting quotas, we are going down the tube as a nation. I am starting to wonder if anyone in government or the military has any backbone or balls!!!
  • claptonluvr 2009/11/14 16:14:09
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    claptonluvr
    +3
    "Diversity" is destroying this country. It is weaking our schools, our military, our judicial system and our government. Wake up America, the signs are there start paying attention to them.
  • Silverback 2009/11/13 22:35:37
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Silverback
    +1
    Whats wrong with doing a job well enough to be recognized.
  • Helo Chick 2009/11/13 22:14:48
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Helo Chick
    +1
    We've been doing this for years, back in 1996, we flew the MCPON from one base to another, they made sure we had one white guy, one mexican, one black, and our only female crewman, me on board. Same went for the SECDEF, and any other "big wig" that came out. It's strictly for appearance. My hubby works over at Navy boot camp, every time they have an "honored guest", they do the same thing. Air shows, same thing. How long would it take for someone to yell DISCRIMINATION if they didn't mix it up like that? Not long at all.
  • brandi_wine112 2009/11/13 16:26:40
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    brandi_wine112
    +1
    It isnt about a White Soldier only saving his White Brother , nor a Black Soldier saving only his Black Brother. Military has NO ROOM DEBATING Black , White , Grey or any other color of the rainbow!

    Within every branch of our Military those BRAVE men and woman are NOT CONCENTRATING OR FOCUCSED on the COLOR OR RACE of each other , my God! they are TRYING TO SURVIVE. Every military man and woman sees the other as their FAMILY. They eat together, sleep together , play together and fight in UNITY. They dont COLOR COORDINATE themselves as an INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP and we shouldnt either.

    We need to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS ! now more than ever. I am certain that word got around about this TERRORIST who INJURED AND KILLED those soldiers at Fort Hood. These men and women fighting in Afghanistan SHAKING THEIR HEADS while GUARDING POPPY FIELDS now hearing that thier "BROTHERS AND SISTERS " were seriously injured and KILLED by this TERRORIST on American soil.

    I see why MORALE IS LOW. I see why they are DEPRESSED. I can undestand why those soldiers are having PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.

    ---> Americans we have UPCOMING HOLIDAYS APPROACHING FAST! Please do what you can by sending CARDS, LETTERS , CARE PACKAGES , to our troops. I know money is tight for all of us but we are AMERICANS. Every o...






    It isnt about a White Soldier only saving his White Brother , nor a Black Soldier saving only his Black Brother. Military has NO ROOM DEBATING Black , White , Grey or any other color of the rainbow!

    Within every branch of our Military those BRAVE men and woman are NOT CONCENTRATING OR FOCUCSED on the COLOR OR RACE of each other , my God! they are TRYING TO SURVIVE. Every military man and woman sees the other as their FAMILY. They eat together, sleep together , play together and fight in UNITY. They dont COLOR COORDINATE themselves as an INDIVIDUAL OR GROUP and we shouldnt either.

    We need to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS ! now more than ever. I am certain that word got around about this TERRORIST who INJURED AND KILLED those soldiers at Fort Hood. These men and women fighting in Afghanistan SHAKING THEIR HEADS while GUARDING POPPY FIELDS now hearing that thier "BROTHERS AND SISTERS " were seriously injured and KILLED by this TERRORIST on American soil.

    I see why MORALE IS LOW. I see why they are DEPRESSED. I can undestand why those soldiers are having PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.

    ---> Americans we have UPCOMING HOLIDAYS APPROACHING FAST! Please do what you can by sending CARDS, LETTERS , CARE PACKAGES , to our troops. I know money is tight for all of us but we are AMERICANS. Every other country needs help Americans have always proven to be generous and given from our hearts. This time our troops are in need and we can make a difference! If you cant afford to send anything send Prayers lots and lots of Prayers! AMERICANS UNITED, WE UNDERSTAND & WE CARE!! AND WE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS!

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The army says morale has fallen among its forces in Afghanistan, where troops are seeing RECORD VIOLENCE in the 8-year-old war.

    A new battlefield survey taken several months ago found INSTANCES OF DEPRESSRION, ANXIETYand other PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS about the same as in 2007 — but there was a significant DROP IN UNIT MORALE. The Army also says there is a shortage of mental health workers to help soldiers, partly because of the troop buildup started this year by President Barack Obama.

    Efforts already under way to get more mental health workers to the war are hampered somewhat by last week’s shooting at Fort Hood. The army psychiatrist charged in the shootings was slated to go to Afghanistan. Some of the dead and wounded also were to deploy there to bolster psychological services for soldiers
    http://morningjournal.com/art...
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  • AmVet 2009/11/13 15:15:06
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    AmVet
    I you want to understand BHO and his motives watch this!
    *http://www.youtube.com/watch...
  • birdman 2009/11/13 13:47:33 (edited)
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    birdman
    +2
    A man who sympathizes with the enemy and kills his fellow service men and women is not 'cultural diverse'

    Its not a question of being diverse its not having the enemy in their midst.

    For God and country not racial inclusiveness OR exclusiveness.

    Can they shoot straight, follow orders, carry out the mission with out being led by the hand (able to improvise and THINK) and have a love of this country then NO problem.

    I could care less what color or race or religion they are.
  • Jimmy the greek 2009/11/13 12:41:13
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Jimmy the greek
    +5
    If someone wearing the stars on his shoulders is going to be barking orders , I would like to be sure he got the stars for his ability not because of affirmative action.
  • The Four Horsemen of the Ap... 2009/11/12 23:40:29
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse--"Not on our Watch!"
    +4
    I don't believe in PC, but I also think that the military must welcome all men and women willing to serve their nation and who pass background checks.
  • ENR 2009/11/12 22:22:04
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    ENR
    +5
    the first way to get rid of racism and everything associated with it, is by ending focus on diversity and begin focus on humanity. This constant walking on egg shells and don't offend this one and that one is not helping things at all.
  • Edward Croy 2009/11/12 22:07:56
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Edward Croy
    +3
    The Liberal agenda has done enough damage to the Military without this PC bullshit...
  • 2009/11/12 22:05:21
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    S²
    +6
    Effectiveness is more important than diversity.
  • Val 2009/11/12 17:10:19
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Val
    +1
    I think volunteer is!
  • Billyk75 2009/11/12 16:07:36
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Billyk75
    +4
    No. Racial Diversity is hurting the U.S. Military.
  • Richie 2009/11/12 14:23:29
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Richie
    +3
    diversity is so over rated anyway!!!!
  • Lea 2009/11/12 14:21:14
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    Lea
    +6
    There are plenty of Americans from all cultural background who serve us proudly in the U.S. Armed Forces. I know this because our family is a "military" family. My husband served in the U.S. Army and is a veteran of Desert Shield, Desert Storm, was in Panama when they captured Noreiga and took part in several other "important" exercises of freedom.

    If you are speaking to racial quotas, the U.S. Army is color-blind. Anyone who doesn't understand this, knows nothing about the military. It doesn't matter what color a person is, they have a job to do and they do it. They are proud to do it.

    However, I have said from the beginning of the problem with radical Islam (and all Islam is radical, if you take exception to this, you do not understand Islam), is that NO MUSLIM SOLDIER SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON THE FIELD OF BATTLE.

    We have become TOO POLITICALLY CORRECT in this country and frankly, I'm sick and tired of it. Most Americans are sick and tired of it. I don't care what you or others may think of my views, you are ENTITLED TO BE OFFENDED. But, unless and until someone takes our U.S. Constitution and nullifies it, I HAVE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. The reason? Those proud soldiers I was just referring to.

    Thanks to an act of terrorism, 14 of them are no longer with us.
  • bluejacket 2009/11/12 14:15:32
    No, military readiness is more important than race quotas
    bluejacket
    +3
    How do you promote military diversity in a voluntary military?

    With the libtard P/C crowd screwing around with the military, well that will make are best and brightest stampede the recruitment center, no?
  • Jimmy t... bluejacket 2009/11/13 12:45:07
    Jimmy the greek
    The draft needs to be brought back .
  • 9th of 9 Jimmy t... 2009/11/13 12:56:38
    9th of 9
    What about freedom of choice?
  • Jimmy t... 9th of 9 2009/11/13 13:00:54
    Jimmy the greek
    What choice ? If they don't like it run to canada and stay this time.
  • 9th of 9 Jimmy t... 2009/11/13 13:12:11
    9th of 9
    What would bringing back the draft do? Would it ensure they all bring the right uniform to the event? Would it ensure diversity? Or is your thought one that will push every non american out of the country?

    Of course they will still be here, they will just find better hiding places.
  • Jimmy t... 9th of 9 2009/11/13 13:18:40
    Jimmy the greek
    +3
    To hell with diversity . The military should look like the country . and woman should not be drafted or serve in combat just like it was in the 50s
  • 9th of 9 Jimmy t... 2009/11/13 13:35:42
    9th of 9
    +1
    I served in the early 80's under Carter/Reagan. It looked very much like the country. All races were there, just like they are here now. The draft forces a choice, freedom doesn't do that. I have no problem with women in the military/combat. Fighting for freedom should be everyone's desire. It is allegiance to the USA that worries me more. In today's world I think by bringing the draft back, we would see more of those who have no allegiance to our country.

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