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Do you believe that George Zimmerman is truly guilty?

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  • FatherLiberty 2012/05/18 16:57:31
    No
    FatherLiberty
    +40
    The evidence coming out more and more points to him acting in self defense. The autopsy report shows Martin had busted knuckles and Zimmerman had two black eyes, a broken nose, a wound to the head etc. Many say he is guilty because he followed Martin, but the reality is it is not illegal to track someone you think it suspicious in your neighborhood. He had every right to follow him and confront him. It is the person who started the physical assault who is at fault.

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  • jujunme mwg0735 2012/05/27 02:53:24
    jujunme
    +1
    "He will still get off"
    This will only be true if the 12 jurors look at this case the way you do,with complete bias against Martin and basing your opinion on the word of a self appointed vigilante who is proven to be a liar, bully and now murderer..
  • mwg0735 jujunme 2012/05/27 10:34:50
  • jujunme mwg0735 2012/05/27 15:59:39
    jujunme
    +1
    Who has lost credibility?
    if you're talking about the 4 witnesses that changed their story, i didn't even mention them as having anything to do with whether or not Zimmerman will be found guilty or not.

    you see nowhere that he has lied??
    He already lied in a court of law by stating that he didn't know Martin was a teenager("i thought he was a grown man")
    Yet on the 911 tape when asked how old he thought Martin was he clearly states about 17 or 18 years old.

    "there is no eye witness and it was dark".
    Exactly! therefore it proves you are only taking Zimmerman's word for what happened by saying Martin attacked him first when no one knows this for a fact.The real fact is police tracking proves he continued to follow Martin even after being told he didn't need to do that.

    Self Defense? yes, i agree Martin was defending himself against a stalker who wanted to play hero and instead, shot and killed an innocent teenager to death.
  • mwg0735 jujunme 2012/05/27 16:39:38
  • jujunme mwg0735 2012/05/27 18:42:39
    jujunme
    I should have expected a ridiculous unintelligent and bias opinion from you.
    i now know ,better than to continue responding to your idiotic comments.

    "Treyvon was not innocent - no big loss"
    Why don't you tell that to Trayvon' Mom you are nothing but an insensitive dirtbag
  • mwg0735 jujunme 2012/05/28 02:11:44
  • jujunme mwg0735 2012/05/28 20:24:30
    jujunme
    What will you say when Zimmerman is cleared and walks?
    I would say those jurors must be related to the same ones that acquitted Casey Anthony,delusional? and totally biased, just like you.
  • Defend ... TheFigh... 2012/05/18 11:43:43
    Defend Western Civlization
    +2
    i see more propaganda from the Terrorist Obama Regime of Traitors
  • TheFigh... Defend ... 2012/05/24 04:12:59
  • Tedster Defend ... 2012/07/10 03:01:31 (edited)
    Tedster
    I see mwg's redneck, idiotic cousin showed up no doubt to bring him his hood.
  • Defend ... Tedster 2012/07/10 11:22:09
    Defend Western Civlization
    I have no hood like David duke and Robert Byrd
  • CCRNRT 2012/05/18 04:58:13
    No
    CCRNRT
    +3
    No, I don't think the evidence at this shows it. It may later
  • EdVenture 2012/05/18 04:36:15
    No
    EdVenture
    +4
    I say no because I do not know nor have access to the facts and evidence. I will say from the information that was publicized the circumstances suggest that a prpoer investigation was warranted, he aggressively persued him against orders, he was unauthorized as a security gard but rather a neighborhood watch person intended to foil or discourage crime, he had the ability to from a distance to question traynor and identify himself at a distance, lot of questions, now we are seeing the defences stategy in motion and i'm satisfied all the evidence will be vetted and now the justice system is charged with that responsibilty. Regards
  • Griegg 2012/05/18 04:31:29
    Yes
    Griegg
    +2
    He should have stopped at reporting Travon to the police. Instead, he got himself in trouble and used a gun to get himself out of it. That isn't self defense.
  • Met 2012/05/18 04:30:21
    No
    Met
    +1
    In order for someone to be guilty, you must first have evidence they committed a crime.

    The prosecutors are on record under oath as saying they have none.

    Further, all the existing evidence coming to light, corroborates Zimmerman's version of events.

    Further still, they bypassed the Grand Jury, which is supposed to vote on whether or not there's enough evidence to justify a trial.

    Why is he on trial again? To appease an angry mob? In America? In the 21st Century?

    Nice.
  • jujunme Met 2012/05/26 17:15:25
    jujunme
    "In order for someone to be guilty, you must first have evidence they committed a crime."
    Only half of the prosecutions evidence in this case was presented, so to state that there is none is ludicrous.

    Also what prosecutors state under oath they have no evidence?
    where do you get your information from?,They have charged Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder and are going forward with the charge, your statement is not only misinformed, it's a downright lie.
  • M.C 2012/05/18 04:18:55
    Yes
    M.C
    +3
    i believe he is because it was treyvon screaming for help on the 911 call, he called treyvon a koon on the 911 call, he chased treyvon down after being told not to.
  • Met M.C 2012/05/18 04:30:50 (edited)
    Met
    +2
    the 13 year old eye witness disagrees with that version of events.

    And he did not call him a koon.
  • M.C Met 2012/05/18 04:32:48
    M.C
    +2
    listen to the 911 call he says koon... honestly not sure what the 13 year old said, do you have a link?
  • Met M.C 2012/05/18 04:46:41
  • M.C Met 2012/05/18 05:35:32
    M.C
    +3
    you know it really dont matter what he said, i still say he said koons i have heard a clearer version of the tape than this one. he went after treyvon for no reason if i was being followed i would turn around and confront him too. it was obviously a kid screaming for help not an older mexican. and he was told not to follow him, and had no reason to. i still say he is guilty. he could have, and it looks to me like he scatched his own head. and what about the autopsy?
  • Defend ... M.C 2012/05/18 11:45:32
    Defend Western Civlization
    it matters what he said you just do not like the fact you have been proven wrong
    your propaganda from the Terrorist obama regime has Failed
  • M.C Defend ... 2012/05/18 23:35:26
    M.C
    i havent been proven wrong i heard what i heard. wtf are you talking about?
  • Met M.C 2012/05/18 17:34:32 (edited)
    Met
    Did he break his own nose? Swell his own lips, and blacken both his eyes?

    The autopsy showed bruises on Trayvon's knuckles.

    No disrespect, but my favorite one liner on this is, "they don't call it the listen to the 911 operator and run away law. It's called the Stand your ground law."

    I'm not crazy about the law, but you don't imprison people for following laws you don't agree with.

    If i a guy is following you because he thinks you're trying to break into someone's house, the correct course of action is to explain you're just going home, then go home. Not chase the guy down and start beating him.

    By the way, please disregard everything the Defend Western Civilization says, he's a special type of crazy. I believe they call it being a Nationalist.
  • M.C Met 2012/05/18 23:41:09
    M.C
    i dont see a broken nose or black eyes in any of the pictures of zimmerman at the police station. my point is that zimmerman went after treyvon not the other way around.
  • Met M.C 2012/05/19 00:24:31 (edited)
    Met
    pictures of his injuries taken at the police station, with evidence of everything from that broken nose, to those multiple lacerations in the BACK of the head, and the accumulated blood.
    https://encrypted-tbn1.google... https://encrypted-tbn3.google... https://encrypted-tbn1.google... https://encrypted-tbn3.google... https://encrypted-tbn1.google...
    And then there is the doctors report that corroborates every injury claimed.

    You know the argument could be made, that if you listen to the 911 tapes, the operator is asking Zimmerman questions that requires Zimmerman to at least keep Trayvon in sight well before he was told they didn't need him to follow Martin. And Zimmerman did say at one point he lost him, and was returning to his truck...

    Then something happened, Martin was shot dead, and Zimmerman was obviously beaten pretty badly...

    If someone is following you with gun brandished... how do you get close enough to get that many punches off before being fired upon?
    pictures of his injuries taken at the police station, with evidence of everything from that broken nose, to those multiple lacerations in the BACK of the head, and the accumulated blood.
    https://encrypted-tbn1.google... https://encrypted-tbn3.google... https://encrypted-tbn1.google... https://encrypted-tbn3.google... https://encrypted-tbn1.google...
    And then there is the doctors report that corroborates every injury claimed.

    You know the argument could be made, that if you listen to the 911 tapes, the operator is asking Zimmerman questions that requires Zimmerman to at least keep Trayvon in sight well before he was told they didn't need him to follow Martin. And Zimmerman did say at one point he lost him, and was returning to his truck...

    Then something happened, Martin was shot dead, and Zimmerman was obviously beaten pretty badly...

    If someone is following you with gun brandished... how do you get close enough to get that many punches off before being fired upon?
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  • M.C Met 2012/05/19 15:04:59
    M.C
    it wasnt a 13 year old witness it was witness 13 you dont even know what your talking about. http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon...
  • Met M.C 2012/05/19 23:37:05 (edited)
    Met
    Austin Mclendon, 13 years old, originally told police he heard Zimmerman screaming, spent some time with his family, and he and his mother changed his story.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    Fair warning 90% of this story is a poor attempt to portray Zimmerman as victimizing another black kid... But then that should be right up your alley.

    I think i've shown numerous times that I'M not the one having trouble proving my talking points.
  • M.C Met 2012/05/20 00:26:40
    M.C
    +1
    he did profile him period whether you want to admit it or not he did he saw a black kid in a hoodie and thought he was doing something wrong. if he stayed in his car like he was told treyvon would have gotten home alive................
  • Met M.C 2012/05/20 16:46:20 (edited)
    Met
    And perhaps burgled someone else's house.

    Let's not forget this same kid was found with stolen property and a burglary tool not long before this incident.

    You've bought into media hype my friend. Sometimes the black guy in the hoodie IS up to no good.

    That's kinda why the stereotype exists.
  • jujunme Met 2012/05/26 01:07:45
    jujunme
    "And perhaps burgled someone else's house".
    With what? a box of Skittles and a can of iced tea?
    Wow!some major burglary tools here
  • Defend ... M.C 2012/05/18 11:44:42
    Defend Western Civlization
    +1
    no he did not stop falling for the Liberal Propaganda
  • gvc M.C 2012/05/18 06:59:18
    gvc
    +2
    Clearly you are misinformed. Leave the verdict to the jury!
  • Defend ... gvc 2012/05/18 11:46:05
    Defend Western Civlization
    +2
    Liberal Progressives hate Americans standing up to evil
  • M.C gvc 2012/05/18 23:42:51
    M.C
    im not misinformed i heard the tapes and came to my conclusion, and if you say leave it to the jury how do you know im misinformed to begin with?
  • gvc M.C 2012/05/19 02:24:50
    gvc
    They have proven he did not say KOON. In America, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty. SO as of this moment he is innocent. Deal with it.
  • M.C gvc 2012/05/19 15:05:07
  • gvc M.C 2012/05/19 16:56:47
    gvc
    Hahahaha you use YAHOO as your source. Wow, explains a LOT!
  • M.C gvc 2012/05/20 00:27:46
    M.C
    how? its news period. if zimmerman stayed in his car like he was told treyvon would have gotten home alive...........
  • gvc M.C 2012/05/20 02:05:13
    gvc
    Yeah, New's to incite.
    If Martin would have kept walking instead of turning to attack he would be alive. Getting out of your car is not a crime, attacking IS.
    Martin shares the responsibility for his own death. Sad but true!
    He made choices that ultimately ended his life.

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