Do You Agree With Ecuador’s Decision to Give Political Asylum to WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange?

Yes speak, and all for freedom of speech.Just saying that IF he did expose someone to danger,death or torture he was wrong.
Mind you i do not believe my government, and this is a load of old tosh to shut someone up who dared speak up and expose what he found.
It happens all the time, he is lying, no he is lying, and when the truth does come out even in black and white, its still lies to some and truth to some, and grey areas to others.
Took a long time for this woman to say she was rapped, never even knew that rape was not putting on a condom before sex!
Just saying IF he exposed someone to danger.

I can not remember him exposing anyone to danger or torture or death, do you? It is pretty cheeky to suggest a fellow ought to be punished for something he might of done, or said or exposed don't you think?

Political Asylum is a slippery slope and should be avoided excepted in special situtations. Julian Assange committed multiple acts of treason. In so doing weakened national security and placed the lives of our military and intelligence operatives in danger. Accordingly this ass wipe should be thrown in jail for lfe or better the CIA should have offed him and threw his body in a ditch somewhere.

He is not a Colonial subject, therefore he did not commit treason. He is a hero.

As an enemy combatant we could just have the Army shoot him and not bother with the CIA.

Judging on that comment, you would have been very comfortable in Germany during the 1930s and early 1940s.

Or in the USA now.

Spoken like a good authoritarian puppet. If my government is doing evil in my name, I would like to know about it, and will protect the person who is brave enough to tell me about it.

Have we, as Americans, really reached the point where some of us believe that journalists should be imprisoned or summarily executed for reporting on corruption? Take a step back, listen to your self, and imagine what you would say if a North Korean or Iranian man said the same thing about somebody who exposes secret crimes of his government.

PS. Assange is Swedish, not American, thus your charge of treason is irrefutably false.

Whatever the jerk is he endangered countless lives with his reckless and illegal activites. What's the point of having laws if people get to choose which ones to follow and which they can break?

Define treason. Which military and intelligent operatives were put in danger? And now you suggest murder. Bad boy! Sinner.

Get a life. The Rosenbergs who stole secrets to the A bomb were trired, found guility and executed.

They stole secrets from their employer, the American people. You do not see a difference? Good grief!

Crime is CRIME. What's your problem?

I dont think Assange is a threat to world peace,but a threat to the corruption of the CIA quite possibly and any other dirty lies and schemes which end up putting us all in danger.Weakened national security-one man called Julian Assange!?.Geezus,so much for national security.But seriously,was any damage done?.No.The issue of security is being used as a pseudo excuse which after even reading some of the declassified documents since the Freedom of Information Act in 1966 should be clear to all.

hell yeah...without a doubt....we need more people like him

Ecuador is a sovereign country, if they want to give Julian Assange political asylum then they can. He is not an American citizen and therefore does not fall under the jurisdiction of American law. We have Manning in custody he violated his oath of enlistment and his nondisclosure agreement, so he can go to jail where he belongs.

THE TRUTH NO MATTER HOW UNPLEASANT IT MAY BE, IS ALWAYS BETTER THEN A LIE. YOU CAN'T FIX OR CORRECT A LIE, BUT YOU CAN ALWAYS WORK WITH THE REALITY OF THE TRUTH.

Ah... Daniel.. you do know at the end of that chapter of the bible, Jesus slunked out though the back door.

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

Sorry. It's a peeve of mine to take what he said out of context. The quote belongs to when one goes about converting others to your religion, not to everything in general.

Ah John, Thank you for proving my point better than I did. You have shown, that YOUR priority is not the "truth" the priority for you is clearly something else. Checking your profile, indicates you have other religious and other political views, and that goes hand in hand with your lack of truth as being priority #1. Anything done that convolutes the truth, ie: deflection, changing subjects, attacking, ignoring, and so on, are all signs that the truth is not important to the one who is exhibiting these subversive actions.



SORRY FOR POINTING OUT THE HIDDEN PERSONALITY TRAIT. MOST PEOPLE WON'T TELL YOU THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST LIKE YOU THE TRUTH IS NOT # 1 ON THEIR LIST EITHER, SO YOU THINK THEIR FRIENDS AND THEY REALLY ARE NOT, YOU THINK THE WIFE IN LOYAL, BUT SHE IS REALLY IS NOT, YOU THINK YOUR RESPECTED, BUT YOUR REALLY NOT. A LIFE OF DECEPTIONS AND CONVOLUTION IS YOURS. SAD HUH..

Considering I learned most of those lessons about deflection, changing subjects, attacking, ignoring.. all that? Came from fundamentalists and religious fanatics. I learn quick.

And seeing as you are in deed turning this into an attack, this conversation is done. I was not targeting you specifically but you choose to return far more then I intended.

Completely agree!

I wasn't familiar with this story, so I just read a few articles about it. In my opinion, the UK not willing to recognize Ecuadors right to protect him is the big question here. What would the UK do if Ecuador did the same thing to them?
Regardless, from what I've read, the rape thing almost seems to be a sham and it's really about his actions at WikiLeaks, which I agree with. Admittedly my information is not the best and I don't really know the truth, but I have to say that right now I agree with Ecuadors decision and strongly disagree with the UK's position.

I do not know what the legal situation is, but if he is in a foreign embassy,its not just a case of going in.
The Foreign Office says it can revoke an embassy's diplomatic status but Ecuador claims this is only if there is a public threat.
Do understand and i would feel the same if the USA would have done the same,but they just cant waltz in, they have to go down certain paths.

From what little I read, it seemed to me that the UK were actually thinking about sending a swat team in to get him. Hopefully this is wrong, but that's just what little bit I read this morning.

No that would go against international law, has for the media, it a case of if there is no news, make news.

Agreed, the media is generally a waste of time. And I admittedly only spent a few minutes on this topic this morning.

Yes its sad that you cant believe what you hear on the news or read,they make bad news a lot worse.Used to buy the daily every day,gave up about 3/4 years ago.Fit only for toilet paper, mind you perhaps some toilets have high standards and reject the paper!

Truth is truth. If you don't like it then you are in denial. If our governments didn't have anything to hide there would be nothing to find. But, in this case there was something to find and those that want it covered have a lot of power. Do not believe for one moment that any government doesn't do things that they don't want the public to know about. But if it is a good thing, then why do they want to hide it? You only hide the things you don't want people to find. And more then likely they are thing we need to bring into the light of day.

I grew up on Ecuadorian money. Five Ecuadorian Sucres were equal to $1 dollar in 1958, in Ecuador.
Five Sucres lasted me all week, 20 reales bus fare 60 reales lunch, 5 Sucres was my allowance. So therefore its hard to believe that today the Sucre no longer exists. In 1982, Ecuadorian President Jaime Roldos saw that Ecuador had a great future, it had beautiful Galapagos islands, our Amazon Oriente which was producing oil and Ecuador was an OPEC country.

Jaime was offered a World Bank Loan. A loan from the Friendly Bank of the Yankis who just wanted to help us. How nice! The loan even came with a few secret Swiss bank accounts for those friendly service fees!
Jaime turned down everything! Next thing you know his plane comes crashing down right near the US Airforce base and friendly Yankis got there/their first and cordoned off the scene. A few years after the loan was approved the Ecuadorian economy cashed! The Sucre is worthless. The Ecuadorian Amazon is a toxic dump with 22 times the amount of oil spilled than the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.
Ecuadorians are no longer slaves. Ecuadorians are happy people but they have been wronged and ripped off. Especially after finding out the USA paid Peru to invade Ecuador in 1941. For oil of course.

Yeah? Didn't know this. I do know that our government was training gorillas down there. My recently deceased boss was green beret and trained some of them himself. Besides, I remember the Iran contra scandle hearings. If we could do that, nothing surprises me any more.

Yes,we all have dark secrets all countries.The trouble starts when we think our country cant do no wrong.

Guerrilla warfare.

Yes i did misspell that. Hate the spell checker on iPad sometimes.:-)

"Truth is truth. If you don't like it then you are in denial. ..."

We don't have to like the truth, but we can still be accepting of it. There is alot of uncomfortable truths out there, from taxes to this to the fact in the end it doesn't matter as we'll be 6 ft under of whatever causes.

And as for the reasons why a gov't might want to hide stuff, is that while you might be a patrioit.. the guy next to you might not. Putting something out there in the open ALSO allows all the other countries to see what your doing too, and that can be damaging as long as even one power is witholding and willing to abuse everyone's trust for it's personal gain.

If every single gov't was above board on everything, great! world peace and all...

sadly, the erality is no one is going to do that. So by neccessity a gov't has to hide things from it's own people because revealing X fact to them means it will also reveal it to rival, maybe hostile countries.

You are not the only one that reads the news paper.

HOWEVER.. there is the freedom of information act. If you want access to some of those things that arn't public domain, put a FOI request in. You might get what you want.

Well, maybe we can be the first government to set the example. Who knows, with the information age the idea could spread like wild fire and all the commoners could demand of their governments to quit it. And IMO, if we weren't in the business of telling other countries how to live their lives and let them figure it out for themselves, we might not have as many enemies as we do. Isn't that why we had the American revolution? We wanted to make our own fates and not have them dictated to us by the throne. Instead we interfer and set up puppet governments with leaders that are partial to us. Sounds a lot like the puppet states the Russians had. You know, the ones we set osama ben laden loose on after we trained him and funded him to create problems for the Russians?
If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish and wiggles like a fish, I bet it's a fish.

yea... no. Set the example? Considering how many countries out there WANT to burn the US to the ground? I'm not going to give them the ammunition to do so.

All it takes is one bad apple, but in this case.. every apple is bad.

Jesus tried to set an example. The roman got him on the cross. He teaches us to love, but not be stupid about it.

Anyone who starts down that path first is going to get burned by others who are far less willing to do the same, and will only see opportunity where there should be good will. And regiems like north korea, china, vietnam, saudi arabia, iraq... they won't ever open up fully to the public, not if it means losing power at the upper ends.

Actually.. that statement is pretty much true of every country.

How much Aid were they given? And, by which countries? I'd bet you we provide some kind of aid - isn't it kind of a kick in the face?

All the Aid we got was for your Airfarce base in Manta and for your DEA cowboys.
You want an Airforce base in Manta, then Ecuador wants an Airforce base in Miami. OK?

We dont want your money. Keep it and stuff it where the sun dont shine.

Actually I was extradited back to the USA because of the DEA cowboys for selling 2 ounces of hashish in 1969. I never wanted to go back cause when I left, I left for good. Thank your tax dollars for bringing me back and I lost my business and everything I had in Ecuador thanks to your tax dollars at work.

Since your American government wanted me back to bad, here I am to give em hell.