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  • DP 2012/08/16 23:14:19
    Yes
    DP
    +29
    Then you support the corruption of the governments across the world. Go ahead and try to say you don't. It won't matter because you do. He's trying to let people know the truth, and they're using the rape accusations—which are false; the women bragged about having sex with him the following day. The one woman only wanted him to get tested after he didn't wear a condom. The police took that as a rape accusation—to try to send him to the US. The government is just mad that they're being exposed for the evil they do behind closed doors.

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  • irish -liberty or death! 2012/08/18 15:28:32
    Yes
    irish -liberty or death!
    +3
    why not?? he didn't really do anything he wasn't allowed to do.
  • TimothyBrianFoley 2012/08/18 15:00:48
    Yes
    TimothyBrianFoley
    +3
    someone out there ha to let him speak other nations refuse to even give him a voice
  • ««Gingey, the Master Debate... 2012/08/18 13:59:49
    Yes
    ««Gingey, the Master Debater of Þ|-|Дэ†»»
    +7
    The allegations against him are blatant lies.
  • \V/ ««Ginge... 2012/08/18 18:30:33 (edited)
    \V/
    +6
    Thank you! Yes! Ecuador wants more transparency and less secret government in the USA.

    I grew up on Ecuadorian money. Five Ecuadorian Sucres were equal to $1 dollar in 1958, in Ecuador.
    Five Sucres lasted me all week, 20 reales bus fare 60 reales lunch, 5 Sucres was my allowance. So therefore its hard to believe that today the Sucre no longer exists. In 1982, Ecuadorian President Jaime Roldos saw that Ecuador had a great future, it had beautiful Galapagos islands, our Amazon Oriente which was producing oil and Ecuador was an OPEC country.

    Jaime was offered a World Bank Loan. A loan from the Friendly Bank of the Yankis who just wanted to help us. How nice! The loan even came with a few secret Swiss bank accounts for those friendly service fees!
    Jaime turned down everything! Next thing you know his plane comes crashing down right near the US Airforce base and friendly Yankis got there/their first and cordoned off the scene. A few years after the loan was approved the Ecuadorian economy cashed! The Sucre is worthless. The Ecuadorian Amazon is a toxic dump with 22 times the amount of oil spilled than the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.
    Ecuadorians are no longer slaves of the USA. Ecuadorians are happy people but they have been wronged and ripped off. Especially after finding out the USA pai...




    Thank you! Yes! Ecuador wants more transparency and less secret government in the USA.

    I grew up on Ecuadorian money. Five Ecuadorian Sucres were equal to $1 dollar in 1958, in Ecuador.
    Five Sucres lasted me all week, 20 reales bus fare 60 reales lunch, 5 Sucres was my allowance. So therefore its hard to believe that today the Sucre no longer exists. In 1982, Ecuadorian President Jaime Roldos saw that Ecuador had a great future, it had beautiful Galapagos islands, our Amazon Oriente which was producing oil and Ecuador was an OPEC country.

    Jaime was offered a World Bank Loan. A loan from the Friendly Bank of the Yankis who just wanted to help us. How nice! The loan even came with a few secret Swiss bank accounts for those friendly service fees!
    Jaime turned down everything! Next thing you know his plane comes crashing down right near the US Airforce base and friendly Yankis got there/their first and cordoned off the scene. A few years after the loan was approved the Ecuadorian economy cashed! The Sucre is worthless. The Ecuadorian Amazon is a toxic dump with 22 times the amount of oil spilled than the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.
    Ecuadorians are no longer slaves of the USA. Ecuadorians are happy people but they have been wronged and ripped off. Especially after finding out the USA paid Peru to invade Ecuador in 1941. For oil of course.

    Since the USA told us to make hemp illegal in the 30's Ecuador has also made it illegal.
    I will be meeting with the Minister of Agriculture soon so we can grow hemp again.

    (I was extradited from Ecuador to the USA in 1975 for selling two ounces of hashish. I spent a year in jail after fighting extradition for six months. So this is a personal mission I am on)
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  • Starchild \V/ 2012/08/19 09:00:20
    Starchild
    +1
    A lot of us in the United States hate the unconstitutional "War on Drugs" championed by the U.S. government too. I was arrested and threatened with 10 years in jail for hash possession when my friend and I were driving across a midwest state minding our own business, just because we were pulled over for a speeding ticket.

    In some Latin American countries, corruption is rampant and you have to bribe police officers who pull you over to extort money from you, but it is less expensive than in the U.S., where the corruption is institutionalized and the whole system is rigged to extort money from you. Cost me a couple thousand dollars fighting that B.S.

    Your body belongs to you, and what you choose to put in it is your business, not any government's. And if you want to grow hemp on your own land, that's your business too, as long as you manage the land responsibly so as not to destroy biodiversity.
  • \V/ Starchild 2012/08/19 19:11:26
    \V/
    +1
    Awesome! Thanks!
  • Barbi Rose Starchild 2012/09/07 00:52:42
    Barbi Rose
    I disagree if it's against the law and you buy it and use it and get caught oopsie. You do the crime you do the time so don't whine.
  • Starchild Barbi Rose 2012/09/07 13:53:32
    Starchild
    Yeah? When all the politicians who violate not just any law, but the U.S. Constitution, the HIGHEST LAW OF THE LAND, and violate it not just once, but ON A ROUTINE BASIS, after SWEARING AN OATH TO UPHOLD IT, have been arrested, tried, and sentenced to long jail terms, please let me know, and I'll go turn myself in.

    Until then, please spare me any authoritarian-serving slogans about "doing the time" when it's only ordinary people and not the ruling elite who are held to that standard.
  • Barbi Rose Starchild 2012/09/07 21:39:00
    Barbi Rose
    We agree to disagree
  • Barbi Rose \V/ 2012/09/07 00:51:33
    Barbi Rose
    Yeah I know blame everyone else for your problems, it's the USA fault oh please.
  • \V/ Barbi Rose 2012/09/10 00:00:46
    \V/
    You are stupid. We Ecuadorians welcome him as a hero. Screw you!
  • Barbi Rose \V/ 2012/09/10 02:19:58
    Barbi Rose
    You can have the guy who might have got people killed and is wanted on sex crimes he's all yours lol
  • \V/ Barbi Rose 2012/09/10 20:21:06
    \V/
    He showed the world the cold blooded murder of civilians by US forces.

  • Barbi Rose \V/ 2012/09/10 20:28:23
    Barbi Rose
    Wow you must be a middle eastern dude, dudette, anti Western, so what country do you find so wonderful in the world, and religion for that matter, please enlighten me because I obviously would love to know and might want to visit this wonderful place.
  • \V/ Barbi Rose 2012/09/10 22:15:35
    \V/
    You are stupid. We Ecuadorians are sick and tired of your stupid yanki Imperialism. Ecuador is in South America gringa pendeja
  • Barbi Rose \V/ 2012/09/10 23:21:33
    Barbi Rose
    The Imperialist era was over before the USA was able to be a player if you don't know that, look it up. Remember you think I'm not smart but my friend google is.
  • \V/ Barbi Rose 2012/09/11 01:37:11
    \V/
    You are an arrogant little Yanki Imperialist twit. Arrogance does not make up for stupidty
  • Barbi Rose \V/ 2012/09/11 03:26:51
    Barbi Rose
    At least I don't call people names and I'm not mean and just stay in your wonderful country, don't worry about us. Usually when people start calling others names it's because they don't have any argument but to be mean.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/18 13:10:15
  • \V/ ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/18 18:40:33
    \V/
    +2
    You are stupid. We Ecuadorians welcome him as a hero. Screw you!
  • ģhøṡτ øώl \V/ 2012/08/19 12:40:41 (edited)
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    Yeah. You "Ecuadorians" are SO influential in the grand scheme of things in geopolitics. Gee, you're basically the heros of the world! Look! Everyone in the world is modeling their societies after your THIRD-WORLD methods of living. Your Global Integrity report hasn't turned over numbers since 2007 and you're regarded as a corrupt nation anyway. But thanks for taking care of the Galapagos and thanks for all the bananas. They're delicious. !YA BASTA!
  • \V/ ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/19 19:12:56
    \V/
    If you dont like Ecuador stay the hell away and leave us alone.

    Just eat the bananas and STFU! Cojudo.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl \V/ 2012/08/20 12:55:17
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    I didn't say I did not like Ecuador. Never been there. Just expressing what I know.
  • Barbi Rose ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/09/10 20:29:19
    Barbi Rose
    I'm thinking mean girl or guy so don't make her/him mad.
  • Starchild ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/19 08:33:02
    Starchild
    +1
    You sound like an apologist for statism and tyranny, trying to rationalize government secrecy and control and treating people like mushrooms (keep them in the dark and feed them B.S.). I'll go with the intellectual, anti-government kid. Or grown-up, as the case is.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Starchild 2012/08/19 12:33:15
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    No. I'm just being a REALIST. The rest of you can have your adolescent dreams of anarchy or whatever this empty notion of PSEUDO-INTELLECTUAL victory you deem this guys actions to be. I advise you: BE THE DIFFERENCE YOU WISH TO SEE IN THE WORLD. If you don't like what your government is doing DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Are you willing to DIE for it? Or just be a little troublemaking coward like Assange? Because unless you're willing to die for it you're probably not going to make dent.
  • Starchild ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/20 21:33:19
    Starchild
    +1
    What's your definition of "pseudo-intellectual" and what in your opinion is the difference between that and actual intellectualism?

    It seems to me that Julian Assange has had quite an impact, and that's why he has made the authoritarians in the U.S. government, and people like yourself, so angry.

    He didn't like the secrecy and lack of accountability, and lack of investigation by the mainstream media that he saw, and he decided to do something about it.

    Indeed do be the change you wish to see in the world.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Starchild 2012/08/21 12:29:49
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    Pseudo-intellectual is someone of median intelligence who thinks of his or herself as being much more intelligent than they actually are. Actual "intellectualism" is backed and made fortified by WISDOM.

    If you or he had any idea of how the world ACTUALLY works in this day and age, the counterproductivity would have been flagged and a different method would have been actuated, thus yielding more productive results. What actually resulted from his actions is basically pointless. All it did is stir up folks like you that would see this a some great act of heroism and give him, one Julian Assange the ATTENTION he so greatly and narcissistically craves. Nothing happened. NO changes are being made, and no changes WILL be made until REAL action is taken. As in the kind that result in Blood, Sweat and Tears. You see, stealing "secret information" and grandstanding by try to embarrass governments of the world equates to being an "armchair revolutionary", if you will. People will look up and cry foul and then nothing actually happens. It funny to me that he targets the so-called "free-world" and it's "tyranny" but manages to leave out many of the worst nations in the world, e.g. China, Russia. Also, no one will TRULY back the play of a coward. By running away he basically guts his own supposed 'legacy'.
  • Starchild ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/22 09:42:56 (edited)
    Starchild
    +1
    I think you'd better read this article about the impact of WikiLeaks and then get back to me...

    http://www.worldaffairsjourna...

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    "Almost two weeks before the desperate young fruit-seller Mohammed Bouazizi set himself on fire on a street in Tunis and a full month before the uprising that ensued, touching off the “Arab Spring” that is still unfolding, the rationale for revolution appeared on the Internet, where it was devoured by millions of Tunisians. It was a WikiLeaks document pertaining to the unexampled greed and massive corruption of Tunisian president Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali and all his money-hungry family.

    "The most memorable details were in a dispatch written by Robert F. Godec, the US ambassador to Tunisia, who had dined a year earlier in the lovely seaside resort of Hammamet. His host was Mohamed Sakher El Materi, the prosperous son-in-law of Ben Ali. The luxurious appointments of the Materi mansion, its lavish display and flaunted wealth clearly struck a chord in the American. Roman columns and ancient frescoes adorned the cream-colored home; an infinity pool shimmered beneath a 50-meter terrace, its constant supply of water pouring liberally from an ancient lion’s ...














    I think you'd better read this article about the impact of WikiLeaks and then get back to me...

    http://www.worldaffairsjourna...

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    "Almost two weeks before the desperate young fruit-seller Mohammed Bouazizi set himself on fire on a street in Tunis and a full month before the uprising that ensued, touching off the “Arab Spring” that is still unfolding, the rationale for revolution appeared on the Internet, where it was devoured by millions of Tunisians. It was a WikiLeaks document pertaining to the unexampled greed and massive corruption of Tunisian president Zine el-Abidine Ben Ali and all his money-hungry family.

    "The most memorable details were in a dispatch written by Robert F. Godec, the US ambassador to Tunisia, who had dined a year earlier in the lovely seaside resort of Hammamet. His host was Mohamed Sakher El Materi, the prosperous son-in-law of Ben Ali. The luxurious appointments of the Materi mansion, its lavish display and flaunted wealth clearly struck a chord in the American. Roman columns and ancient frescoes adorned the cream-colored home; an infinity pool shimmered beneath a 50-meter terrace, its constant supply of water pouring liberally from an ancient lion’s head, Godec reported in a passage subheaded 'Al-Materi Unplugged.' And that wasn’t all:

    “'Al-Materi has a large tiger (‘Pasha’) on his compound, living in a cage,' Godec wrote. 'He acquired it when it was a few weeks old. The tiger consumes four chickens a day.' As for the family itself, its members gobbled their own gustatory treats—fish, turkey, steak, and octopus were followed that night by ice cream and frozen yogurt freshly flown in from Saint-Tropez. The talk on the night Godec was present, however, focused less on the gourmet items than the cash required to keep them coming. The already wealthy son-in-law wanted to acquire a McDonald’s franchise in Tunisia, and he needed help from the US.

    "Tunisia happens to have the highest percentage of Facebook users in the world—'Something like two million among ten million people have their own Facebook account,' Radwan Masmoudi, president for the Center for the Study of Islam and Democracy, told a British newspaper. Since the information on the site is constantly being passed along, it is almost inconceivable that the fruit-seller Bouazizi, a frustrated university graduate of twenty-six, didn’t know the contents of Godec’s leaked report. On November 28th of last year, a TuniLeaks site was created—the very day the New York Times began posting the materials it had received from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

    "Al Jazeera, too, which enjoys tremendous popularity in Tunisia, had drummed the WikiLeaks revelations into the consciousness of disgusted citizens. When that brutal policewoman told Bouazizi that his cart would be confiscated because he didn’t have a proper license, the contrast between the fruit-seller’s own shabby, miserable existence—an existence that allowed the policewoman to slap him around and spit in his face—with that of Pasha, the pampered tiger munching four chickens a day, must have been unbearable.

    “'Whether it’s cash, services, land, property, or (yes) even your yacht, the Ben Ali family is rumored to covet it, and reportedly gets what it wants,' read the ambassador’s cable. 'Quasi-mafia' is how he described the clan.

    "And the very fact that this frank assessment of their arrogant leadership appeared in an American cable intended for an American government exacerbated a nation’s embarrassment. Humiliating, the thought that Yankee infidels were passing judgment on a Muslim nation’s conscious passivity, its submission and calm acquiescence in the face of undisguised corruption. Humiliating that the entire world now knew what these Americans had once quietly told each other. Humiliating above all that Tunisians themselves were not exactly ignorant of what the Ben Ali family had been up to—long before WikiLeaks had published a single syllable—and had done nothing about it.

    "In the Muslim world, in other words, it is not just women who often, traditionally, go about veiled. It is—or rather it used to be—information. In Yemen, Egypt, and Syria, in Bahrain and Libya, that veil has now been lifted, for better or for worse, not only by fruit-vendors or Muslim extremists or courageous lawyers or even youthful rebels—but by WikiLeaks."


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  • ģhøṡτ øώl Starchild 2012/08/23 12:39:06
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    Oh good. Star Wars was filmed in Tunisia. heh
  • Starchild ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/23 13:38:40
    Starchild
    +1
    So what are you trying to say?
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Starchild 2012/08/24 12:40:39
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    Things will be looking better there, hopefully.
  • Starchild ģhøṡτ øώl 2012/08/25 13:06:10
    Starchild
    +1
    Certainly agree with you on that. Too many people in too many countries are suffering needlessly under the corruption, economic mismanagement, and sheer brutality of too many power-addicted rulers.

    And I liked those desert scenes in Star Wars too.
  • ģhøṡτ øώl Starchild 2012/08/25 13:16:37
    ģhøṡτ øώl
    Sadly, it is the way of man.
  • iamnothere 2012/08/18 12:04:16
    No
    iamnothere
    no rhyme no reason
  • Jack Madison 2012/08/18 11:11:14
    Yes
    Jack Madison
    +6
    One would have to be a fool to think Julian is a bad person. He's making our world better by breaking down the bull that is being handed to us daily.
  • Azrael-In GOD we trust 2012/08/18 10:48:40
    No
    Azrael-In GOD we trust
    +3
    Our country was put at risk with his stupidity.
  • Jack Ma... Azrael-... 2012/08/18 11:11:53
    Jack Madison
    +6
    You're a terribly misinformed person. And, judging by your moniker, a moron.
  • Azrael-... Jack Ma... 2012/08/19 23:48:00
    Azrael-In GOD we trust
    If I were the type who called people names, I'd return the favor, you poor person.
  • irish -... Azrael-... 2012/08/18 15:29:37 (edited)
    irish -liberty or death!
    +5
    it was not.


    wow another cowardly block by a clueless chicken who fears any type of discussion.

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