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Do We Still Need the U.S. Marine Corps?

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They’re the toughest of the tough. The strongest of the strong. The soldiers you send in to do the riskiest work before the rest of the troops follow.

But are the Marines, the “soldiers of the sea,” headed for the military scrap heap?

Though they’ve been taking fire on land in Iraq and Afghanistan for the past 10 years, with the recent decision to cancel orders for a new amphibious troop carrier and a new fighter jet, NPR asked if the legendary Corps is headed for a major facelift in the 21st century?

"For many years now, its core mission has been forcible entry, meaning going ashore in the face of hostile fire to claim enemy beaches and then push inland quickly before defenders regain their balance," said defense analyst Loren Thompson of the Marines’ legendary assaults on the beaches of Iwo Jima, Inchon and the Barbary Coast.

But those days might be over now because Defense Secretary Robert Gates recently pulled the plug on the Corps’ stealth Joint Strike Fighter and their Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle or EFV, citing astronomical cost run-ups and budget cuts.

Instead, the Marines will have to do with an update of their decades old amphibious troop carrier as military brass try to figure out where they fit into a modern battlefield.

With many enemies armed up with long-range missiles that could hit Marines in their landing craft well before they reach the beach, Gates has said the old-school assaults from the sea are likely a thing of the past.

So what is left for the Marines?

"If the Marine Corps is no longer going to do opposed landing on enemy beaches in the face of hostile fire, then its role will be significantly diminished in the future," Thompson predicted.

Of course, the Marines will tell you they do way more than just paddle onto the shore.

"Since 9/11, U.S. amphibious forces have responded to crises and contingencies at least 50 times, a response rate more than double during the entire period of the Cold War," sad senior officer Gen. James Amos.

Despite claims that they are irreplaceable, Gates has recommended reducing the size of Marine forces by 15,000-20,000 in the future, a higher number than he’s suggested in cuts to the Army cuts, which some experts say is the less agile, more expensive force to maintain.

Is the Marine Corps still relevant?

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  • Ssgtwaldo 2011/01/27 13:56:55
    Yes
    Ssgtwaldo
    +40
    You damned right we do! This is why.

    Marine Corps
    Hymn Lyrics

    From the Halls of Montezuma
    To the Shores of Tripoli;
    We fight our country's battles
    In the air, on land and sea;
    First to fight for right and freedom
    And to keep our honor clean;
    We are proud to claim the title
    of United States Marine.

    Our flag's unfurled to every breeze
    From dawn to setting sun;
    We have fought in ev'ry clime and place
    Where we could take a gun;
    In the snow of far-off Northern lands
    And in sunny tropic scenes;
    You will find us always on the job
    The United States Marines.

    Here's health to you and to our Corps
    Which we are proud to serve
    In many a strife we've fought for life
    And never lost our nerve;
    If the Army and the Navy
    Ever look on Heaven's scenes;
    They will find the streets are guarded
    By United States Marines.

    I'm retired Air Force, however, I have a lot of respect for the Jar Heads

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  • sabrina m 2012/11/10 16:44:14
    Yes
    sabrina m
    I can't believe this is even a question! OF COURSE we need the USMC. Who do you think is the FIRST to fight to keep people's freedoms intact? I served back in 1979-1982 and am proud to claim the title of UNITED STATES MARINE!
  • 8641892 2012/11/08 14:14:58
    Yes
    8641892
    +1
    We needed Marines years ago, We need Marines now, AND WE WILL NEED MARINES FOREVER!!!!!!!! SEMPER-FI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Marien Corps Birthday is Saturay November 10,2012.
    MARINES HAVE BEEN MARNIES FOR 237 YEARS THIS YEAR!!!!!!! OOORAHHH
  • xmarks 2012/07/13 01:56:23
    No
    xmarks
    we lost vietnam,the korean war we've spent ten years trying to find one idiot in afganistan!! get ride of the marines, get rid of the entire military!!!they're justa waste of tax payer dollars.
  • Ram xmarks 2012/10/25 11:02:34
  • andrew ... xmarks 2013/01/12 20:12:11
    andrew marrs
    +8
    Screw you, douchebag.
  • RON OCHOA 2012/07/12 18:13:14
    Yes
    RON OCHOA
    IF IT WASN'T FOR THE UNITED STATES MARINES... OBAMA, GATES, ETC. WOULD BE SPEAKING EITHER JAPANESE, GERMAN, OR RUSSIAN AND HOLDING THEIR OWN SORRY ASSES UP WITH THE FLAG POLE THAT OUR ENEMIES HAVE USED TO BEAT OUR BRAINS IN FROM BEING WEAKENED BY LIBERALS IN OUR GOVERNMENT. OOOOH-RAAAAAH MARINE CORP !!!!!!!
  • JonDeniro 2012/06/25 17:38:21
    Yes
    JonDeniro
    I am of the opinion that we should keep the Marine Corps and DX the Army.
  • ruthannhausman 2012/06/24 23:48:57
    Yes
    ruthannhausman
    Damn right we do.
  • Silvershadows 2012/06/22 12:38:29
    Yes
    Silvershadows
    Not only do we need the Marines-----we more of them with up to date equipment! The fools in our government (Gates is siding with Obama) are planning to see the US defeated, any way they can. We MUST get rid of all of them. Stop the whining about the "POOR", stop with the regulations (sic), business will return when we stop with the taxes, put the "POOR" to work for what they receive----and provide for the common defense! IF we don't get rid of Obama, his shills and their agenda it's going to be a real nasty time, even worse than it has been. History is repeating itself-----the fool liberals don't see it, don't want to or can't get over their love of Obama and the liberal fools in government.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/06/22 02:19:37
    Yes
    Tennessee3501
    Don't mess with success!
  • Evan 2012/06/21 23:35:12 (edited)
    Yes
    Evan
    We have never needed a more effective, strong, DEFENSE, than we do right now. Never. And the U.S. Marine Corps is our first line of defense. Of course we need them. We don't need them in 6 African countries right now, but boy, do we need them. May God Bless them ALL!
  • jon 2012/06/21 20:13:17
    Yes
    jon
    you damn right we need them!
    OOOO-RAAHH!
  • baboula 2012/06/21 18:01:16
    Yes
    baboula
    Who else, along with the other military branches, would protect the Libs from their bonehead comments/actions?
  • Evan baboula 2012/06/21 23:36:33
    Evan
    Yes, Baboula, even that idiot Pelosi needs protection...mostly from herself.
  • Charles... Evan 2012/06/21 23:50:19
    Charles Braley
    Well- I dont think the Marines can help her there! lol
  • baboula Charles... 2012/06/22 12:56:55
    baboula
    boot camp maybe?
  • Charles Braley 2012/06/21 13:22:13 (edited)
    Yes
    Charles Braley
    Do we still need the Constitution & the Bill of Rights? Do we need food/water/air? Do we need great neighbors on the North/South? Do fish need water? Does it snow in Minneapolis in the Winter time? etc, etc, etc!





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  • RobertChristopherLaity 2012/06/21 11:14:05 (edited)
    Yes
    RobertChristopherLaity
    +1
    What kind of airheaded question is this? Marines will be with us for a long time. Obama best stop spending wasrefully and finance the military properly. I served on an Amphibian force. Marines can be transported to far off lands,deploy very efficiently and when on the beach KIck ASS! Semper Fi!!
  • Evan RobertC... 2012/06/21 23:37:37
    Evan
    AMEN, RobetChristopherLaity!
  • SickOfBigGov 2012/06/21 02:53:33
    Yes
    SickOfBigGov
    Well, let me put it this way...Unless you all are willing to get off your couches and go do the dirty work yourselves (let me guess...not so much?), then I suggest you fight against Obama and Gates war on our military...If you fail, be prepared to be defend your own sorry butt's.
  • teachaman 2012/06/20 17:39:35
    Yes
    teachaman
    As long as freedom is threatened anywhere, the WORLD will need the United States Marine Corps ...
  • Racefish 2012/06/20 14:18:46
    Yes
    Racefish
    +1
    Too bad the Obma administration doesn't understand national defence or diplomacy.
  • Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/20 13:31:00
    Yes
    Torchmanner ~PWCM~JLA
    +1
    Who would think otherwise, but a traitor?
  • Evan Torchma... 2012/06/21 23:38:20
    Evan
    AMEN, Torch, who else indeed?
  • beach bum 2012/06/20 12:30:42
    Yes
    beach bum
    YES
  • Callaway 2012/06/20 12:19:15
    Yes
    Callaway
    Not even a valid question.
  • Bevos 2012/06/20 11:54:09 (edited)
    Yes
    Bevos
    +1
    Most definitely we need them.
    Obama sends millions to Al Queida to feed them and buy them weapons, and we can't afford to upgrade our own Armed Forces? Do you Libs out there see anything strange about that yet?
  • mike 2012/06/20 07:54:32
    Yes
    mike
    +1
    Their roll may change but they'll allways be a need for the Marines.
  • Bevos mike 2012/06/20 11:56:11
    Bevos
    +1
    Especially now and the immediate future.
  • Evan mike 2012/06/21 23:39:18
    Evan
    The role may indeed change, but there will for sure always be a need for a good defense, and the U.S. Marines is it. I appreciate them every one!
  • Child of light 2012/06/20 06:05:43
    Yes
    Child of light
    Absolutely. The United States Marine Corps is undoubtedly the best of the best, and they should not be cut. There should be no budget cuts to the Military. It should either stay the same, or else get increased.
  • firebird 2012/06/20 05:03:30
    Yes
    firebird
    NOW more then ever !!!!!!!
  • mac9 2012/06/20 04:56:15
    Yes
    mac9
    +1
    Absolutely we need this brave fighting force. What needs to be scraped is the Obama Administration and all of his moron minions.
  • Bevos mac9 2012/06/20 11:58:35
    Bevos
    I AM voting for that. Come on Nov.
  • Evan mac9 2012/06/21 23:39:38
    Evan
    LOL, Ah, yes, Mac9.
  • gary ® 2012/06/20 04:48:39
    Yes
    gary ®
    SECDEF GATES -- is retiring on Thursday. Maybe his successor can stop this nonsense!
  • caius madison 2012/06/20 04:20:09 (edited)
    Yes
    caius madison
    Mpstly because the Army is not as good. The Marines are much tougher, and are the brunt of our fighting force. I am surprised this is being asked.... they are first in, and last out. Semper Fi.
  • Lawnmowerman~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/20 03:56:01 (edited)
    Yes
    Lawnmowerman~PWCM~JLA
    +2
    As long as Americans BREATH we will need the Marines. Those scared little girls in the White House won't be there forever.
  • Jim 2012/06/20 03:33:53
    Yes
    Jim
    +1
    NPR, a liberal media. The Marines are the best fighting force on the face of the planet. Obama and group are afraid of the military, especially the Marines.The military is standing in the way of a complete takeover of the US.
  • Bevos Jim 2012/06/20 11:59:52
    Bevos
    That is exactly what it is.
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