Do Democrats Know Obama Cut Medicare?

by atomikmom Posted 2012/08/19 02:29:19

Related Topics: 2012 Election, Obamacare, Obama, Democrat, Health Care, Rush, Election, Democrats, Budget Cuts, Budget, Medicare, Paul Ryan, Ryan

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	Yes They Do	11 votes	31%
	No They Don't	14 votes	40%
	Undecided	10 votes	29%

Do Democrats Know Obama Cut Medicare?

Filed under 2012 Election, Government, Health Care Posted on August 18, 2012

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RUSH:
Are you sick and tired yet of hearing how Paul Ryan wants to kill
Medicare? You know what’s going to kill Medicare is Medicare. Medicare
is going to eat itself. Medicare is going to implode if something
isn’t done about it, unless somebody does something to save it. And
I’ll tell you, I had a thought develop yesterday when we were discussing
the $700 billion that Obama cuts from Medicare. It’s not just that he
took $700 billion from Medicare. He put that $700 billion elsewhere.
Obama is robbing Medicare. Obama is the guy that’s robbing money from
Medicare.

By the time it’s all said and done, when you factor interest over a
number of years, you could accurately say that Obama is taking a
trillion dollars out of Medicare and putting it elsewhere in Obamacare.
It’s not just an accounting move. It’s a real transfer of money, in
order to keep the overall reported cost down. I remember yesterday
having so much trouble convincing people of this, because the meme is
out there that Ryan’s budget cuts Medicare.

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Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/08/19 02:41:34

Undecided

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But even if they find that out and admit it they still think the obama will take from those who do or are Conservatives and give to them. You see that with every fiber and aspect of their being esp. the OWS pukes.
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Stan to KAREN J... 2012/08/19 21:52:48

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These people don't care about the truth or facts, as facts are just one of those pesky things they have to ignore or lie about again.

FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
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Aurora to KAREN J... 2012/08/19 23:26:59

I have worked at two hospitals, and they all have a hiring freeze and cut hours due to low census.

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KAREN J... to Aurora 2012/08/20 02:27:13

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Sorry to hear, hiring in Pennsylvania increasing inspite of our Republican governor loves the layoff.

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Aurora to KAREN J... 2012/08/20 22:11:43

Hiring for what??

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KAREN J... to Aurora 2012/08/21 01:15:16

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I would suggest you go to Indeed.com and see for yourself. Just type in medical.

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Aurora to KAREN J... 2012/08/21 01:18:40

Tell me, you are the one who works in HR what are they hiring for, just as a thought another Obama sycophant.

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Stan to Aurora 2012/09/30 01:07:06

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Really, you are mentally stable enough to be trusted in a hospital? You must have been part of the janitorial staff????

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Stan to KAREN J... 2012/09/30 01:04:48

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That's way over Aurora's mental capacity to comprehend!

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Stan to Aurora 2012/08/19 21:50:50

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You really don't care about the facts, or the facts just scare the hell out of you so you ignore them. So try and explain this away Sweet Cheeks, as this is just one search engine that exposes this lie, and if you want more --just ask!

FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
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Aurora to Stan 2012/08/23 00:39:16
Stan to Aurora 2012/08/22 23:35:54

Getting stuck in the Republican ECHO CHAMBER seems to dumbed down a lot of people.

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Stan to Aurora 2012/09/30 01:03:39

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You seem to have a pathology of irrational hatred for our Black African American President? Are doctors only for the Filthy Rich or do all the people have a right to a doctor. the minds of looney Conservative are a treat to see their Delusions of grandeur works. You do know that is a mental disorder?

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Stan to KAREN J... 2012/08/19 21:47:54

+1
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Stan to Aurora 2012/08/19 21:47:37

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A damn LIE

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Aurora to Stan 2012/08/19 23:33:39

You must be a new sock puppet, got your talking points emails I see. Uninformed voters for Obama.

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Stan to Aurora 2012/08/22 23:34:09

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http://www.bothpartiesarenott...
http://www.finance.yahoo.com/...
http://www.alternet.org/hot-n...
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/so... http://www.dailykos.com/story...
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-1...
http://www.healthcarefinancen...
http://www.swampland.time.com...
http://www.thinkprogress.org/...
http://www.thestand.org/2012/...
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http://www.cbsnews.com/8601-1...
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Stan to Aurora 2012/09/30 00:59:12

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Prove it Sweet //cheeks, because your mouth is not a fact-machine regardless of you thinking it is. You do understand people can fact-chect all of youe lies, conspiracy theories and distortions of the truth?

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Stan to KAREN J... 2012/08/19 21:46:36

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FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
http://www.politifact.com/tru...

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zapped 2012/08/19 03:22:42

No They Don't

if they did he would have no supporters at all !

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Stan to zapped 2012/08/19 21:53:46 (edited)

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Well then liar, let me help your dumb butt out.
FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
http://www.politifact.com/tru...

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zapped to Stan 2012/08/19 21:59:06

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WELL BUMBAZZ since you want to throw insults right off ......I'm no romney supporter either ,,,

but my statement stands ,,,and politifact is a biased site ,,,so prove your allegations w/ a non biased site !

& your a reconstituted dung heap ?

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Stan to zapped 2012/08/19 22:08:41

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I understand Bubba, when your caught in a lie, go right into denial, so are you asking for more proof, as I am your guy who only deals in facts, so if you can't handle the truth just say so and I will get you more proof?

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zapped to Stan 2012/08/19 22:20:02

dimentia & alzheimers kicking in I see ...
since all you have is insults ,,,
run along ....!

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Stan to zapped 2012/08/19 22:41:58 (edited)

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Still struggling with that denial I see. You sound very angry, so was it something I said? I have this big old heart and can forgive you for your mental illness.

Conservatives are all fundamentalists with a top dressing of chaos and destruction. That is why they are the stupidest of Conservatives, T-Boogers, and reactionary in politics and the most bigoted of obstructionists and domestic terrorists. When it comes to getting their hate on they are all of the same opinion: stop it, lie about it, distort it, obstruct it, flog it, dynamite it, and stamp the truth right out of it.

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zapped to Stan 2012/08/19 22:57:32

dimentia & alzheimers kicking in I see ...
since all you have is insults ,,,
run along ....!

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Stan to zapped 2012/08/23 07:34:18 (edited)

You just don't know what to do now that your lies have been exposed, and my insult are both deserved and are the least of your problems. Republicans/Conservatives and especially T-Booger are very slow learners or their dimly lit bulbs

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zapped to Stan 2012/08/23 18:00:26

the conservative ,,is to conserve the language , values & intent of the constitution ..

and very obviously you are the one offended by the truth here ..
definition as follows ____________________________

The term “conservative” in its most basic definition means someone who seeks to conserve what exists today, or in the relatively recent past. (Anyone who says that today’s conservatives seek to restore slavery is an idiot. Yes, that means you, Joe Biden.) What is now Britain’s Conservative Party dates back to 1678, almost 100 years before the colonists decided Great Britain wasn’t so great. The classical liberals believed in individual freedom, including religious freedom, something the Tories opposed.

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Stan to zapped 2012/08/28 09:57:57

I'm still trying to understand what "other" stands for in your political preference, as your posting sure doesn't make it clear. You seem to have a leg on both sides of thr fence. Could you explain just what you profess to be?

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Aurora to Stan 2012/08/19 23:28:59

While throwing epithets at people, please spell butt correctly.

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Stan to Aurora 2012/08/23 08:24:31

OK buttocks or for short butt and Sweet cheeks it could be that you are the butt of the joke also, but I don't think you got lost in my meaning Cup Cakes. I only throw epithets at people who have earned them, but then you must be below the other dimly lit bulbs in your group. You and your maggots lies puts you in a category with a group of maggots that has no honesty, integrity, feelings, patriotism towards country, or empathy for what your half-wits have put the middle and poor classes through with the creation of a near-depression, and then doing everything in your power to make it worse and inflict more pain on the people is reprehensible. Then to add insult to injury your group of imbeciles disenfranchise American citizens from their Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country is beneath the intellect. If your so damn insulted, imagine what the the middle and the poor people ((0% of the population think of you cretins. I'll bet your a believer in "Legitimate Rape"?

My little fairy princess, if your offended by my insults, know that you deserve it, and just suck it up. Your own party is an insult, and consummate liars and distorters of the truth and reality. I understand what a bitch facts, truth, and reality is for you gaping primates. It must reall...

OK buttocks or for short butt and Sweet cheeks it could be that you are the butt of the joke also, but I don't think you got lost in my meaning Cup Cakes. I only throw epithets at people who have earned them, but then you must be below the other dimly lit bulbs in your group. You and your maggots lies puts you in a category with a group of maggots that has no honesty, integrity, feelings, patriotism towards country, or empathy for what your half-wits have put the middle and poor classes through with the creation of a near-depression, and then doing everything in your power to make it worse and inflict more pain on the people is reprehensible. Then to add insult to injury your group of imbeciles disenfranchise American citizens from their Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country is beneath the intellect. If your so damn insulted, imagine what the the middle and the poor people ((0% of the population think of you cretins. I'll bet your a believer in "Legitimate Rape"?

My little fairy princess, if your offended by my insults, know that you deserve it, and just suck it up. Your own party is an insult, and consummate liars and distorters of the truth and reality. I understand what a bitch facts, truth, and reality is for you gaping primates. It must really be difficult to find facts for lies, until you go back to Fox News (An oxymoron as they just make up the news.)? I could always agree to disagree with others points of view, but when someone blatantly lies and contorts the truth, my gloves come off, and I call a spade a spade, and for a conservative, that's as painful t as they can feel?

Education is learning what you didn't even know you didn't know or are unable to know. Fraud and falsehood only dread inquiry, while truth encourages it. One can observe the real Conservative agenda just by watching what they do. Resistance to conservative tyrants is obedience to God. The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything. The two pillars of conservative 'political correctness' are willful ignorance and a steadfast refusal to face the truth. Reality, Sweet Cheeks, is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. Republicans have committed the fatal sin ... of becoming cynical and arrogant with respect to decisions affecting the lives of hundreds of millions of people. Conservative politics have always been the systematic organization of hatreds.

Sweet Cheeks, I don't know what is eating you, but it must be suffering terribly. Don't let your mind wander cup cakes, it's much to small to be let out on it's own!
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Aurora to Stan 2012/08/23 21:09:54

blah blah blah, you are boring me.

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Stan to Aurora 2012/08/28 10:02:06

I understand your conundrum Sweet Cheeks, you have nothing of substance to give, so you love just spitting in the wind, and you are smart enough to understand what that gets you? So blah, blah, blah to you to, and I find you rather insignificant!

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LesWaggoner BN 1 2012/08/19 03:07:02 (edited)

Yes They Do

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Romney’s right: Obamacare cuts Medicare by $716 billion. Here’s how.

So Romney continues to lie about why the cuts have been made and where the money is going.

Are the far fringe conservatives intelligent enough to figure out that if Romney was right Barack Obama would have faced immediate impeachment by the Republican dominated House of Representatives? or is it beyond their grasp to think that deeply?

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gregory.ditzler 2012/08/19 03:01:00

Undecided

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they know it isn't a cut, what there saying is that it will save money from medicare make it more efficient.

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Stan to gregory... 2012/08/19 21:55:01

FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
http://www.politifact.com/tru...

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Mr. Smith 2012/08/19 02:44:15

No They Don't

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No, but they're learning.......slowly!

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atomikmom to Mr. Smith 2012/08/19 02:58:34

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I guess it's better late than never!!! don't you agree?

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Mr. Smith to atomikmom 2012/08/19 13:59:39

agreed.....however, there are many who still deny this even happened.

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Stan to Mr. Smith 2012/08/19 22:00:45 (edited)

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What are you agreeing with you gaping primate, that Conservatives ignore the truth and easily obtained facts, as I can drown your intellectual vacantsy with much more proof if you desire, or you can sink back into denial and your distortions of the truth?

FACTS ON ROMNEY AND RYAN CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT OBAMA STOLE 716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE
http://www.politifact.com/tru...

This must be like a stick in your eye maggot?

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HOMBRE to Stan 2012/08/19 22:29:52

Obamacare sucks.

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