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RushMediaMontDittocamRUSH:
Are you sick and tired yet of hearing how Paul Ryan wants to kill
Medicare? You know what’s going to kill Medicare is Medicare. Medicare
is going to eat itself. Medicare is going to implode if something
isn’t done about it, unless somebody does something to save it. And
I’ll tell you, I had a thought develop yesterday when we were discussing
the $700 billion that Obama cuts from Medicare. It’s not just that he
took $700 billion from Medicare. He put that $700 billion elsewhere.
Obama is robbing Medicare. Obama is the guy that’s robbing money from
Medicare.


By the time it’s all said and done, when you factor interest over a
number of years, you could accurately say that Obama is taking a
trillion dollars out of Medicare and putting it elsewhere in Obamacare.
It’s not just an accounting move. It’s a real transfer of money, in
order to keep the overall reported cost down. I remember yesterday
having so much trouble convincing people of this, because the meme is
out there that Ryan’s budget cuts Medicare.

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  • Demonic Rat Hunter 2012/08/19 02:41:34
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    Demonic Rat Hunter
    +6
    But even if they find that out and admit it they still think the obama will take from those who do or are Conservatives and give to them. You see that with every fiber and aspect of their being esp. the OWS pukes. ows hates america ows hates america ows hates america obama steals from medicare obama steals from medicare obama steals from medicare

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  • GOP Poison 2012/10/07 12:32:37
    Undecided
    GOP Poison
    This should be easy for the knuckle dragging conservatives in here. If Obama cut medicare then someone who is on it as I am should speak up and tell us how their medicare was cut. Mine wasn't but certainly many in here should have had theirs cut. Would some of you that have had yopur medicare cut please speak up. Has your out of pocket portion gone up since W.left? Since medicare was first intituted conservatives have been against it. If Obama cut it you should be rejoicing.
  • Chokmah 2012/08/22 21:26:21 (edited)
    No They Don't
    Chokmah
    Obama followers running to get their foodstamps and welfare checks

    obama followers
  • meme14 Chokmah 2012/09/22 16:55:34 (edited)
    meme14
    +2
    You act as though Obama supporters are all on welfare and food stamps - when the truth is the majority of them work...That would be like me saying all conservatives are rich and educated..and we all know that's a lie
    rich
    ric
  • Chokmah meme14 2012/09/23 04:13:03
    Chokmah
    Why does Obama and the Demokrats bail out Wall Street Billionaires? Obama wants to tax the rich a few million and then bail them out and subsidize them to the tune of Trillions!

    Does that make sense?
  • GOP Poison Chokmah 2012/10/07 12:35:03
    GOP Poison
    Obama and the dems did not bail out wal street.TARP was under Bush.Obama bailed out the auto industry
  • Chokmah GOP Poison 2012/10/07 13:49:15
    Chokmah
    Obama and the Democrats did bail out Wall Steet under Obama's 2009 STIMULUS PACKAGE! Furthermore, the vast majority of the TARP Funds were paid out during the Obama Administration.. the Banks, Solar companies, and Wall Street Banksters run by Democrat political hacks.
  • GOP Poison Chokmah 2012/10/07 17:48:41
    GOP Poison
    The TARP was passed and payed on Ws watch. The stimulus that saved the auto industry was Obamas all the way. Dick Cheney held a meeting with the republicans and told them that if they did not pass this that W would go down as the worst president since Hoover. strangely many of these same republicans voted against the stimulus only months later.Lesson: If it helps the money men the republicans are on board.If it helps the working men and women of America they are against it.
  • Chokmah GOP Poison 2012/10/07 22:26:45
    Chokmah
    Obama bailed out his buddies at Goldman Sachs, GM, Chrysler, and the Big Union fatcats.
  • Chokmah meme14 2012/10/07 14:03:44
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/02 10:20:40
    Stan
    +2
    And Republics and Wall Street created this economic abyss that required all of these food stamps. What did the Republicans do to help their country or the American people to fix this economic abyss they create? They OBSTRUCTED, HELD THIS COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERED AND BLOCKED ALL JOB CREATION, DEADLOCKED CONGRESS SO THAT NO LEGISLATION COULD BE PASSED, AND MORE DESTRUCTION AND CHAOS.

    They then turned around and tried to blame Obama for the economy they were purposely making worse for political advantage to use in the 2012 election.

    REPUBLICAN DESTRUCTION OF UNIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
    http://www.wiscostorm.net/9re...
    newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/20...
    http://www.politicususa.com/e...
    storymakersinc.com/p008-union...
    defendcollectivebargaining.co...
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    RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM
    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/s...
    http://www.onepeoplesproject....
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.mediafreedomintern...
    http://www.mediastory.net/201...

    RIGHT-WING OBSTRUCTION
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    http://www.addictinginfo.org/...
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    And Republics and Wall Street created this economic abyss that required all of these food stamps. What did the Republicans do to help their country or the American people to fix this economic abyss they create? They OBSTRUCTED, HELD THIS COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERED AND BLOCKED ALL JOB CREATION, DEADLOCKED CONGRESS SO THAT NO LEGISLATION COULD BE PASSED, AND MORE DESTRUCTION AND CHAOS.

    They then turned around and tried to blame Obama for the economy they were purposely making worse for political advantage to use in the 2012 election.

    REPUBLICAN DESTRUCTION OF UNIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
    http://www.wiscostorm.net/9re...
    newsjunkiepost.com/2011/02/20...
    http://www.politicususa.com/e...
    storymakersinc.com/p008-union...
    defendcollectivebargaining.co...
    http://www.americanprogress.o...
    apc1002.org/assaultonpublic.php

    RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM
    http://www.whitenewsnow.com/s...
    http://www.onepeoplesproject....
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.mediafreedomintern...
    http://www.mediastory.net/201...

    RIGHT-WING OBSTRUCTION
    http://institute.ourfuture.or...
    http://www.populistdaily.com/...
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/...
    http://www.pfaw.org/media-cen...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://www.associatedcontent....
    http://my.firedoglake.com/rut...
    http://www.examiner.com/indep...
    http://keystoourfuture.blogsp...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://www.theatlanticwire.co...
    http://thinkprogress.org/poli...
    http://www.perrspectives.com/...
    http://themoderatevoice.com/6...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.washingtonmonthly....
    http://www.newdeal20.org/2011...
    http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonat...
    http://hotair.com/archives/20...
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...
    http://www.examiner.com/democ...
    http://americaswatchtower.com...
    http://citizen-40.tressugar.c...
    http://www.theatlanticwire.co...

    WHATEVER OBAMA IS FOR, THE GOP IS AGAINST!
    http://www.salon.com/ne... GOP IS AGAINST
    http://politicalticker.blogs....
    http://articles.boston.com/20...
    http://www.frumforum.com/can-...
    http://swampland.time.com/201...

    GOP WANTS THE ECONOMY TO FAIL
    http://www.washingtonmonthly....
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://tech.mit.edu/V112/N5/c...
    http://thinkprogress.org/romm...
    http://crooksandliars.com/joh...
    http://mydd.com/2010/1/7/what...
    http://www.businessinsider.co...
    http://www.inthesetimes.com/a...
    http://robertreich.org/post/3...
    http://theweek.com/bullpen/co...
    http://www.expressmilwaukee.c...

    THE REPUBLICANS are trying to make Obama look bad isn't working. Try explaining when Obama became President, the entire Grand OBSTRUCTION PARTY decided to practice OBSTRUCTION, HOLDING THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERING AND BLOCKING ALL JOB CREATION, "SOCIAL ENGINEERING", SOCIAL DARWINISM, A WAR AGAINST AMERICA, WOMEN, THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES, EDUCATION, UNIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT, VOTER SUPPRESSION, DESTROYING THE POST OFFICE AND OVER 100,000 POSTAL JOBS,,SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS FOR YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTER, AND JUST PLAIN OLD DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

    RIGHT WING HATE GROUPS AND EXTREMISTS
    http://www.prospect.org/comme...
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/...
    https://www.commondreams.org/...
    www.splcenter.org/get-informe...
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    http://www.alternet.org/belie...
    http://politicalaffairs.net/r...
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    http://www.washingtontimes.co...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://premiumblend.net/2012/...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.google.com/#q=Righ...

    GOP OBAMA HATE
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ch...
    http://www.kaystreet.wordpres...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/21...
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    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-2...
    http://www.usnews.com/opinion...
    http://www.videocafe.crooksan...
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/d...
    http://www.facebook.com/pages...

    RACISM USED AGAINST OBAMA
    http://www.veracitystew.com/2...
    http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/...
    http://www.thedailybanter.com...
    http://www.eurweb.com/2012/03...
    http://www.politic365.com/201...
    http://www.limbaughbook.blogs...
    http://www.bparsia.wordpress....
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    htttp://www.racerelations.abo...
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...
    http://www.alternet.org/story...

    T-BOOGER RACISM AGAINST OBAMA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.archive.org/detail...
    http://www.politico.com/blogs...
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
    http://www.articles.nydailyne...
    http://politics.gather.com/vi...
    http;//WWW.jtwalters.hubpages... http://www.thiscantbehappenin...

    FACTS ON THE GOP OBSTRUCTION AND THE RECOVERY OF THE ECONOMY
    http://www.democraticleader.g...
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bu...
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
    http://www.consortiumnews.com...
    http://www.politico.com/news/...
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    http://www.teapartyslayer.com...
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    http://www.tpmdc.talkingpoint...
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    http://www.salon.com/2012/03/...
    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/...
    http://dismalpoliticaleconomi...
    http://www.dems.gov/press/lar...
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/mo...
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  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/02 20:37:39
    Chokmah
    What a bunch of Left Wing Trotskyite Baloney!

    The entire Housing and Mortgage collapse was created by Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton and the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA). Barney Frank then exaberbated the situation to create the perfect storm.

    Just like in 1929 the Democrats created the Great Depression, in 2007-2009 the Democrats create the Great Recession, which we are still trying to dig ourselves out from, only Obama's incompetence keeps the Great Recession rolling.


  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/07 11:21:07
    Stan
    +2
    Was it something I said half-wit? I know half wit, if you don't agree with the poll numbers you try the conspiracy theory that the numbers are rigged. When unemployment just went from 8.1% to 7.8%, I thought the Republicans, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh was going to have a hissy-fit, and strangle on their own venom. Then then they tried to invent a new conspiracy theory that the White House and Obama had manipulated the percentages that they have no control over, but the right-wing zealots were sure the job numbers were manipulated. They could not fathom how this could be as they had OBSTRUCTED, HELD THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERED AND BLOCKED ALL JOB CREATION, AND DEADLOCKED CONGRESS SO THAT NO LEGISLATION COULD BE PASSED TO FIX THE ECONOMY. So they felt they had done everything to keep Obama from fixing anything just so they could turn around and blame him for the lack of economic and job growth to win the 2012 election. I mean, after all, didn't they try to suppress hundreds of thousand of Democrats from their Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country? They thought they could use fraud and corruption to steal the election.

    WHATEVER OBAMA IS FOR, THE GOP IS AGAINST!
    http://www.salon.com/news/fea... GOP IS AGAINST
    http://politicalticker.blogs....
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    Was it something I said half-wit? I know half wit, if you don't agree with the poll numbers you try the conspiracy theory that the numbers are rigged. When unemployment just went from 8.1% to 7.8%, I thought the Republicans, Fox News, and Rush Limbaugh was going to have a hissy-fit, and strangle on their own venom. Then then they tried to invent a new conspiracy theory that the White House and Obama had manipulated the percentages that they have no control over, but the right-wing zealots were sure the job numbers were manipulated. They could not fathom how this could be as they had OBSTRUCTED, HELD THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERED AND BLOCKED ALL JOB CREATION, AND DEADLOCKED CONGRESS SO THAT NO LEGISLATION COULD BE PASSED TO FIX THE ECONOMY. So they felt they had done everything to keep Obama from fixing anything just so they could turn around and blame him for the lack of economic and job growth to win the 2012 election. I mean, after all, didn't they try to suppress hundreds of thousand of Democrats from their Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country? They thought they could use fraud and corruption to steal the election.

    WHATEVER OBAMA IS FOR, THE GOP IS AGAINST!
    http://www.salon.com/news/fea... GOP IS AGAINST
    http://politicalticker.blogs....
    http://articles.boston.com/20...
    http://www.frumforum.com/can-...
    http://swampland.time.com/201...

    GOP WANTS THE ECONOMY TO FAIL
    http://www.washingtonmonthly....
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://tech.mit.edu/V112/N5/c...
    http://thinkprogress.org/romm...
    http://crooksandliars.com/joh...
    http://mydd.com/2010/1/7/what...
    http://www.businessinsider.co...
    http://www.inthesetimes.com/a...
    http://robertreich.org/post/3...
    http://theweek.com/bullpen/co...
    http://www.expressmilwaukee.c...

    FACTS ON THE GOP OBSTRUCTION AND THE RECOVERY OF THE ECONOMY
    http://www.democraticleader.g...
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bu...
    http://www.sodahead.com/unite...
    http://www.consortiumnews.com...
    http://www.politico.com/news/...
    http://www.thomhartmann.com/u...
    http://www.teapartyslayer.com...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.tpmdc.talkingpoint...
    http://abecedarian.hubpages.c...
    http://www.salon.com/2012/03/...
    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/...
    http://dismalpoliticaleconomi...
    http://www.dems.gov/press/lar...
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/mo...

    NATURAL BORN JOB KILLERS: REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT OVER 4.2 MILLION JOBS
    By: Rmuse

    July 11th, 2012



    Most human beings appreciate a person who sets a long-term goal and achieves success through careful planning, dedication, and single-minded determination to see their final objective reach fruition. There are, of course, some goals that should never be made, much less achieved, and world history is replete with examples of dastardly leaders whose goals were not in the best interest of humankind and caused immeasurable damage to a great number of people. On Inauguration night in 2009, Republican leaders gathered to plot the absolute Obstruction of President Obama’s economic agenda and thus far, they have been successful much to the disappointment of millions of Americans who continue to suffer the effects Republican’s goal of retarding economic recovery and job creation. The GOP makes matters worse by decrying the President’s handling of the economy when the truth is that if they had not blocked, obstructed, and stonewalled every one of the President’s plans to improve the jobs and economic picture, the economy would be much closer to achieving a robust recovery.



    The only failure in Republican attempts to totally destroy the economy was their inability to obstruct the President’s stimulus the Congressional Budget Office and several independent agencies claim created over 5 million jobs. However, they have made up for that success by refusing to consider President Obama’s American Jobs Act proposed, and coupled with severe austerity measures at the state and local level, they have been successful maintaining unemployment at over 8% instead of less-than 6% if they were not intent on obstruction and economic devastation.



    The austerity measures Republicans are implementing have never worked during a recession and despite the abject failure of every European country, and the Great Depression in 1937 that enacted austerity, they are hell-bent on following the countries that have no growth and soaring unemployment. Even the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, Willard Romney, admitted that austerity during a recession is disastrous, and yet Republicans have killed over 600,000 public sector jobs that prevented 2.3 million downstream jobs from being created. Coupled with Republican obstruction of the President’s job plan in January 2011, they have effectively prevented 4.2 million Americans from finding good, living wage jobs, or enough to bring the unemployment rate down to 5.5% in a little over a year. Instead of cutting 600,000 teaching, police, firefighter and other public jobs, if states had increased those lost jobs by one-half, the unemployment rate would be under 5% and tax revenue would be up, the deficit would be reduced, and the economy would be humming along.



    Republicans are now claiming that letting the Bush era tax cuts for the rich expire will kill more jobs, but the facts, and history, do not bear out their fallacious assertions. During the Clinton Administration, the wealthy paid 3% more in taxes and the economy added 22-million jobs, wages increased, and businesses boomed. In fact, during the Eisenhower Administration, the wealthy paid nearly 90% in taxes during the time when hundreds of thousands of soldiers returned from World War II, and the infusion of cash created the nation’s highway system, a booming economy, and the great middle class. The GOP knows how to create jobs, but they have no interest in America’s economy, or its people and they must relish the thought of killing jobs and retarding economic growth as they planned in 2009, and will continue up to the 2012 election.



    There is a tax plan in the Senate proposed by Democrats that gives small businesses a 10% tax cut in exchange for hiring new workers and raising employee’s pay. It also allows businesses to fully deduct the cost of significant investments made in 2012 as an improvement to the current law that caps write-offs at 50%. An independent firm specializing in economic modeling estimates the legislation will add 1 million new jobs to the U.S. economy. The plan should give Republicans wet-knickers for including a tax cut for real small-business job creators in the healthcare, social services, and retail industry. However, because it was a Democratic plan, Republicans insisted on loading it with amendments and the Republican-controlled House opposed it because it would have creatds jobs, and not tax cuts for the rich.



    It is a travesty that Republicans hate Americans with such a passion that they deliberately obstructed over 4.2 million jobs, and continue advocating for more tax cuts for the wealthy as they seek out ways to kill more jobs. They have also resisted attempts by the President and Democrats to rescind tax breaks for corporations that ship Americans’ jobs overseas, and there is no telling how low the unemployment rate would be if they did their jobs. However, they have fulfilled their goal of obstructing economic recovery and job creation measures so one can imagine they celebrate every new report that unemployment is stuck at a little over 8% when the reality is if they cared about the economy or the American people it would be under 5%, and that is without letting Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy expire. But that is the Republican Party that cannot compromise, help the American people, or help fix the economy their policies sent to the edge of the abyss. But they still have time to finish the job they started and obstruct America into a deep economic recession which appears to be their true plan that began in 2001 and should reach fruition by December 2012 when the Mayans predicted the world comes to an end. Unfortunately for millions of unemployed Americans, their world ended when Republicans deliberately killed their jobs and obstructed every single attempt to restore them and it appears they still have not achieved their ultimate goal of destroying the economy to make room for more tax cuts for their precious, imaginary “job creators.”

    And where is your facts and proof that democrats created the great depression of 1929, as your mouth is not a fact machine. During the great depression there were several comparisons we can make with our current near-Depression. First there were no REGULATIONS, and then the wealth inequality was as bad as it is today. And lastly, the same Republican cry came up that our national debt was too high, and we should cut spending and go into austerity as they are suggesting we do today. In 1937, spending and austerity measures were enacted Before they dramatically cut spending, the Great Depression was improving, and when the tried the austerity measures, the country sank right down into another deeper depression. Does that sound like democratic policies, or does that mirror the verysame republican polies being proposed by republicans today?

    The period of 1947 until the late 1970s is known as the "Great Prosperity", and is said to be the most prosperous period this country has ever seen. The REGULATIONS were put on after 1937 to prevent another Great depression from ever happening again. During that 30 year period of the Great Prosperity, we did not have a MAJOR recession until those REGULATIONS were removed during the Reagan administration when they were again removed by the Republicans, and we have had major recession every since then including our current near-Depression. the lesson you should have learned is if your going to lie about recorded history, you better damn well do your research because I love to confront and expose your lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth

    Your education, conservative, is learning what you didn't even know what you didn't know.

    Fraud and falsehood only dread inquiry, while truth encourages it.
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  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/07 14:02:09
    Chokmah
    No nit-wit, Obama and the Democrats have refused to pass a budget, something mandated by our Constitution, and Harry Reid refuses to bring up GOP jobs bills and budgets. Obstruction and obfuscation are Democrat specialties.

    WHATEVER IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE AGAINST!
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/0...
    http://www.usatoday.com/story...
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/...

    OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS RUN TRILLION$$$ ANNUAL DEFICITS!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-...
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...

    No nit-wit, Obama and the Democrats have refused to pass a budget, something mandated by our Constitution, and Harry Reid refuses to bring up GOP jobs bills and budgets. Obstruction and obfuscation are Democrat specialties.

    WHATEVER IS GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE AGAINST!
    http://dailycaller.com/2012/0...
    http://www.usatoday.com/story...
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/...

    OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS RUN TRILLION$$$ ANNUAL DEFICITS!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politi...
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-...
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...

    Obama
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  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/15 11:02:57
    Stan
    +1
    Your statements show just how intellectual vacant you really are. If you had the ability to research and fact-check you would understand just how ignorant you are, but then that is why I'm here to confront and expose your lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. Ignorance is not so much a shame half-wit, as your inability to learn

    WHO IS THE SMALLEST GOVERNMENT SPENDER SINCE EISENHOWER? -- OBAMA!
    www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...
    http://www.boards.straightdop...
    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.c...

    Another example of your ignorance is your lack of understanding anything about how the budget works. Presidents do not set the or pass the budget, as they only SUGGEST spending for the many budget items. CONGRESS is the only body that can create and pass the budget, and it must be agreed to and passed by both houses of Congress. Your blaming it on the President just shows where you get your information -- FROM THE REPUBLICAN, FOX NEWS (An oxymoron as FOX just make up the news.), and the RUSH LIMBAUGH echo chamber of lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. You know, just like the lie that "VOTER FRAUD" is the reason for voter suppression and the Birthers?

    OBAMA BUDGETS
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://www.politifact.com/tru...
    http:://www.csmonitor.com/USA...
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    Your statements show just how intellectual vacant you really are. If you had the ability to research and fact-check you would understand just how ignorant you are, but then that is why I'm here to confront and expose your lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. Ignorance is not so much a shame half-wit, as your inability to learn

    WHO IS THE SMALLEST GOVERNMENT SPENDER SINCE EISENHOWER? -- OBAMA!
    www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...
    http://www.boards.straightdop...
    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.c...

    Another example of your ignorance is your lack of understanding anything about how the budget works. Presidents do not set the or pass the budget, as they only SUGGEST spending for the many budget items. CONGRESS is the only body that can create and pass the budget, and it must be agreed to and passed by both houses of Congress. Your blaming it on the President just shows where you get your information -- FROM THE REPUBLICAN, FOX NEWS (An oxymoron as FOX just make up the news.), and the RUSH LIMBAUGH echo chamber of lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth. You know, just like the lie that "VOTER FRAUD" is the reason for voter suppression and the Birthers?

    OBAMA BUDGETS
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://www.politifact.com/tru...
    http:://www.csmonitor.com/USA...
    http://www.prospect.org/artic...

    I have the firm belief that your supposed brain does not function above your brain-stems

    If Republicans can't get someone to vote for them, they just suppress their ability to vote.

    I wish I had a lower I.Q., so that I could enjoy your company


    WHATEVER OBAMA IS FOR, THE GOP IS AGAINST!
    http://www.salon.com/news/fea... http://politicalticker.blogs....
    http://articles.boston.com/20...
    http://www.frumforum.com/can-...
    http://swampland.time.com/201...

    GOP WANTS THE ECONOMY TO FAIL
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
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    http://thinkprogress.org/romm...
    http://crooksandliars.com/joh...
    http://mydd.com/2010/1/7/what...
    http://www.businessinsider.co...
    http://www.inthesetimes.com/a...
    http://robertreich.org/post/3...
    http://theweek.com/bullpen/co...
    http://www.expressmilwaukee.c...

    RIGHT WING HATE GROUPS AND EXTREMISTS
    http://www.prospect.org/comme...
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/...
    https://www.commondreams.org/...
    www.splcenter.org/get-informe...
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    http://www.blog.al.com/spotne...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://www.npr.org/templates/...
    http://www.forums.charlotteob...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    https://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q...
    http://www.alternet.org/belie...
    http://politicalaffairs.net/r...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.publiceye.org/lnk_...
    http://www.washingtontimes.co...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://premiumblend.net/2012/...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.google.com/#q=Righ...

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    NATURAL BORN JOB KILLERS: REPUBLICANS OBSTRUCT OVER 4.2 MILLION JOBS

    By: Rmuse 
July 11th, 2012



    Most human beings appreciate a person who sets a long-term goal and achieves success through careful planning, dedication, and single-minded determination to see their final objective reach fruition. There are, of course, some goals that should never be made, much less achieved, and world history is replete with examples of dastardly leaders whose goals were not in the best interest of humankind and caused immeasurable damage to a great number of people. On Inauguration night in 2009, Republican leaders gathered to plot the absolute obstruction of President Obama’s economic agenda and thus far, they have been successful much to the disappointment of millions of Americans who continue to suffer the effects Republican’s goal of retarding economic recovery and job creation. The GOP makes matters worse by decrying the President’s handling of the economy when the truth is that if they had not blocked, obstructed, and stonewalled every one of the President’s plans to improve the jobs and economic picture, the economy would be much closer to achieving a robust recovery.



    The only failure in Republican attempts to totally destroy the economy was their inability to obstruct the President’s stimulus the Congressional Budget Office and several independent agencies claim created over 3 million jobs. However, they have made up for that success by refusing to consider President Obama’s American Jobs Act proposed over a year-and-a-half ago, and coupled with severe austerity measures at the state and local level, they have been successful maintaining unemployment at over 8% instead of less-than 6% if they were not intent on obstruction and economic devastation.



    The austerity measures Republicans are implementing have never worked during a recession and despite the abject failure of every European country that enacted austerity, they are hell-bent on following the countries that have no growth and soaring unemployment. Even the presumptive Republican presidential candidate, Willard Romney, admitted that austerity during a recession is disastrous, and yet Republicans have killed over 600,000 public sector jobs that prevented 2.3 million downstream jobs from being created. Coupled with Republican obstruction of the President’s job plan in January 2011, they have effectively prevented 4.2 million Americans from finding good, living wage jobs, or enough to bring the unemployment rate down to 5.5% in a little over a year. Instead of cutting 600,000 teaching, police, firefighter and other public jobs, if states had increased those lost jobs by one-half, the unemployment rate would be under 5% and tax revenue would be up, the deficit would be reduced, and the economy would be humming along.



    Republicans are now claiming that letting the Bush era tax cuts for the rich expire will kill more jobs, but the facts, and history, do not bear out their fallacious assertions. During the Clinton Administration, the wealthy paid 3% more in taxes and the economy added 22-million jobs, wages increased, and businesses boomed. In fact, during the Eisenhower Administration, the wealthy paid nearly 90% in taxes during the time when hundreds of thousands of soldiers returned from World War II, and the infusion of cash created the nation’s highway system, a booming economy, and the great middle class. The GOP knows how to create jobs, but they have no interest in America’s economy, or its people and they must relish the thought of killing jobs and retarding economic growth as they planned in 2009, and will continue throughout 2012.


    There is a tax plan in the Senate proposed by Democrats that gives small businesses a 10% tax cut in exchange for hiring new workers and raising employee’s pay. It also allows businesses to fully deduct the cost of significant investments made in 2012 as an improvement to the current law that caps write-offs at 50%. An independent firm specializing in economic modeling estimates the legislation will add 1 million new jobs to the U.S. economy. The plan should give Republicans wet-knickers for including a tax cut for real small-business job creators in the healthcare, social services, and retail industry, and it passed a test vote in the Senate yesterday. However, because it was a Democratic plan, Republicans insist on loading it with amendments and the Republican-controlled House will surely oppose it because it creates jobs, and not tax cuts for the rich.



    It is a travesty that Republicans hate Americans with such a passion that they deliberately obstructed over 4.2 million jobs, and continue advocating for more tax cuts for the wealthy as they seek out ways to kill more jobs. They have also resisted attempts by the President and Democrats to rescind tax breaks for corporations that ship Americans’ jobs overseas, and there is no telling how low the unemployment rate would be if they did their jobs. However, they have fulfilled their goal of obstructing economic recovery and job creation measures so one can imagine they celebrate every new report that unemployment is stuck at a little over 8% when the reality is if they cared about the economy or the American people it would be under 5%, and that is without letting Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthy expire. But that is the Republican Party that cannot compromise, help the American people, or help fix the economy their policies sent to the edge of the abyss. But they still have time to finish the job they started and obstruct America into a deep economic recession which appears to be their true plan that began in 2001 and should reach fruition by December 2012 when the Mayans predicted the world comes to an end. Unfortunately for millions of unemployed Americans, their world ended when Republicans deliberately killed their jobs and obstructed every single attempt to restore them and it appears they still have not achieved their ultimate goal of destroying the economy to make room for more tax cuts for their precious, imaginary “job creators.”
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  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/16 05:36:06
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/19 11:15:45
    Stan
    I understand the mentality of the Republican party, and especially the Conservative, and the the T-Booger wings. All of our past Presidents have been WHITE, but the White race is quickly becoming the minority in this country, and it seems like it is driving you half-wits to being terrified and crazy about having an African American in your White House?. This is more of a psychological problem than a political one. In the last debate, Romney damn near said, "BOY, I'm still talking, you'll get your turn." The only part he left out was the "BOY" part, but the arrogance, condescension, and disrespect given to this President is despicable.

    As I said, I understand what you're so angry about, and why you have this pathology of irrational hatred. It is a classic indication of your group's insecurity, helplessness, guilt, and inability to effect change. Many insecure people feel a sense of self worth by relegating a person or group of people to a lower station in life, much the same way as a school yard bully does, and that is the ideology you are demonstrating now. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters ARE INSECURE. Frankly, I love to watch your dance of irrational hate. I know what I prefer in a leader and President, but I'm more interested if you do? First lets look at ...




















































































































































































    I understand the mentality of the Republican party, and especially the Conservative, and the the T-Booger wings. All of our past Presidents have been WHITE, but the White race is quickly becoming the minority in this country, and it seems like it is driving you half-wits to being terrified and crazy about having an African American in your White House?. This is more of a psychological problem than a political one. In the last debate, Romney damn near said, "BOY, I'm still talking, you'll get your turn." The only part he left out was the "BOY" part, but the arrogance, condescension, and disrespect given to this President is despicable.

    As I said, I understand what you're so angry about, and why you have this pathology of irrational hatred. It is a classic indication of your group's insecurity, helplessness, guilt, and inability to effect change. Many insecure people feel a sense of self worth by relegating a person or group of people to a lower station in life, much the same way as a school yard bully does, and that is the ideology you are demonstrating now. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters ARE INSECURE. Frankly, I love to watch your dance of irrational hate. I know what I prefer in a leader and President, but I'm more interested if you do? First lets look at this irrational and radicalized hatred coming from the right, and the following facts show a lot of examples and signs of that hatred.

    GOP OBAMA HATE
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ch...
    http://www.kaystreet.wordpres...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/21...
    http://www.gopclownshow.com/m...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-2...
    http://www.usnews.com/opinion...
    http://www.videocafe.crooksan...
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/d...
    http://www.facebook.com/pages...

    RACISM USED AGAINST OBAMA
    http://www.veracitystew.com/2...
    http://www.obamaftw.com/blog/...
    http://www.thedailybanter.com...
    http://www.eurweb.com/2012/03...
    http://www.politic365.com/201...
    http://www.limbaughbook.blogs...
    http://www.bparsia.wordpress....
    http://www.theroot.com/views/...
    http://www.jonathanturley.org...
    htttp://www.racerelations.abo...
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.c...
    http://www.alternet.org/story...

    T-BOOGER RACISM AGAINST OBAMA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.archive.org/detail...
    http://www.politico.com/blogs...
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
    http://www.articles.nydailyne...
    http://politics.gather.com/vi...
    http;//WWW.jtwalters.hubpages... http://www.thiscantbehappenin...

    RIGHT WING HATE GROUPS AND EXTREMISTS
    http://www.prospect.org/comme...
    http://www.abcnews.go.com/US/...
    https://www.commondreams.org/...
    www.splcenter.org/get-informe...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.blog.al.com/spotne...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
    http://www.npr.org/templates/...
    http://www.forums.charlotteob...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    https://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q...
    http://www.alternet.org/belie...
    http://politicalaffairs.net/r...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.publiceye.org/lnk_...
    http://www.washingtontimes.co...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://premiumblend.net/2012/...
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-...
    http://www.google.com/#q=Righ...

    I am the kind of fellow who can agree to disagree, or even be convinced with good examples of why I should vote for this person or that person so I'm asking for your help as an Independent as to why Romney and Ryan should be my choice?

    The American people, in this case, are the employers, and Romney want's to become this countries most important, and powerful leader in the world and best man for the job. This person who becomes our President has an ideology and policies, and it is essential for each of us to navigate the critical ebb and flow of his politics and policies today. The outcome of these decisions of who presents the best vision of the future is sure to influence the next generations, and the next decades. I'm sure we can both agree to that? So that is why I'm asking for your help in deciding If Romney and Ryan are the best ones for the job.

    Could you possibly inform me why Romney's Resume is blank and he refuses to tell us what his policies and plans are for this country if he is elected, and why won't he tell the American people why they should hire him? Who is the real Mitt Romney, his policies, and why he gives conflicting policy positions every day, and then his advisers need to come back and explain what he really meant? Why does he hate the people (the 47%) so much and only wants the to represent half the country -- the very wealthy?

    THE REPUBLICANS who are trying to make Obama look bad just isn't working. Try explaining when Obama became President, the entire Grand OBSTRUCTION PARTY decided to practice OBSTRUCTION, HOLDING THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERING AND BLOCKING ALL JOB CREATION, "SOCIAL ENGINEERING", SOCIAL DARWINISM, A WAR AGAINST AMERICA, WOMEN, THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES, EDUCATION, UNIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT, VOTER SUPPRESSION, DESTROYING THE POST OFFICE AND OVER 100,000 POSTAL JOBS,,SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS FOR YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTER, AND JUST PLAIN OLD DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

    Why does Romney want to continue to punish the American people by doing things which blocks any job creation or helping to fix the economic abyss they created?

    HOSTAGE TAKING BY GOP THREAT OF NOT RAISING DEBT CEILING - RESULTS
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/0...
    http://www.thinkprogress.org/...
    http://www.videocafe.crooksan...
    http://www.crooksandliars.com...
    http://www.fdlaction.firedogl...
    http://www.thepoliticalcarniv...
    http://www.addictinginfo.org/...

    WHAT WAS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE HOSTAGE TAKING BY GOP NOT TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING?
    http://www.en.wikipedia.org/w...
    http://www.prospect.org/artic...
    http://www.davidhilfiker.com/...
    http://www.news.firedoglake.c...
    http://www.sodahead.com/livin...
    http://www.mariopiperni.com/r...
    http://www.crooksandliars.com...
    http://www.outsidethebeltway....
    http://www.capitalgainsandgam...
    WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF VOTER PHOTO ID BY GOP?
    http://www.www.rawstory.com/r...
    http://www.ncsl.org/legislatu...
    http://www.pfaw.org/rww-in-fo...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.mediamatters.org/r...
    http://www.my.news.yahoo.com/...

    It is difficult to understand precisely what Romney hopes to achieve by promoting the creation and perpetuation of a subclass of illiterates within our boundaries, surely adding to the problems and costs of unemployment, welfare and crime?

    WAR ON WOMEN
    http://www.pol.moveon.org/war...
    http://www.thinkprogress.org/...
    http://www.politicususa.com/r...
    http://www.compliancecampaign...
    http://www.dailycaller.com/20...
    http://www.tucsonsentinel.com...
    http://www.whatthefolly.com/2...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.consortiumnews.com...
    http://www.americasvoiceonlin...
    http://www.peoplefor.net/rww-...
    http://www.video.msnbc.msn.co...
    http://www.change.org/petitio...
    http://www.dwilliam.hubpages....


    GOP JOB OBSTRUCTION TO KEEP THE ECONOMY FROM IMPROVING
    http://www.politicususa.com/n...
    http://www.politicususa.com/g...
    http://www.alternet.org/newsa...
    http://www.integralpostmetaph...
    http://www.realclearpolitics....
    http://www.pfaw.org/factsheet...
    http://www.thegreenmiles.blog...
    http://www.democraticleader.g...
    http://www.news.firedoglake.c...
    http://www.politicsplus.org/b...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.inthesetimes.com/w...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.forums.macnn.com/t...
    http://www.democraticwhip.gov...
    http://www.lasvegassun.com/ne...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.post-gazette.com/s...
    http://www.thepage.time.com/2...
    http://www.consortiumnews.com...
    http://www.delisafos.newsvine...
    http://www.thenation.com/blog...
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ra...

    Why do most economist and independent analsts say the Romney Budget plan does not add up and will explode the national debt or send us right into another deep recession or a nother Great Depression?

    ROMNEY'S TAX POLICIES INCREASES TAXES ON THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES WHILE GIVING MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO THEIR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com...
    http://www.inagist.com/all/23...
    http://www.thinkprogress.org/...
    http://www.takingnote.blogs.n...
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
    http://www.chicagotribune.com...
    http://www.money.cnn.com/2012...
    http://www.examiner.com/artic...
    http://www.businessinsider.co...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/0...
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-5...
    http://www.policymic.com/arti...
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news...
    http://www.miami.cbslocal.com...
    http://www.democracynow.org/2...
    http://www.latinotimes.com/po...
    http://www.whtc.com/news/arti...
    http://www.dailykos.com/story...
    http://www.motherjones.com/mo...
    http;//www.elections.firedogl...
    http://www.newsy.com/videos/s... http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank...
    http://www.money.msn.com/bus http://www.investorvillage.co...
    http://www.reuters.com/articl...
    http://www.democraticundergro...
    http://www.taxbusinessadvisor...
    http://www.thestockmarketwatc...
    http://www.on.aol.com/video/r...
    http://www.wtaq.com/news/arti...

    ROMNEY CAMPAIGN PRAISED TAX POLICY CENTER THAT THEY NOW CALL "BIASED AND LIBERAL
    http://www.mediaite.com/onlin...
    http//www.bloomberg.com/news/...
    http://www.politicstoday.biz/...
    http://www.dailykos.com/story...
    http://www.dailykos.com/story...

    You seem like a reasonable conservative, and I am an Independent who can be convinced, so tell me exactly what polices does Romney have that would make America better, and would make me want to vote for him? So far his policies are the same as the Bush policies only twice as extreme, and we all saw what that cause, and we also observed in Europe what happens when you use austerity measures, and that is exactly what the Republicans, Romney and Ryyan ate suggested we do. What specific policies convinced you to vote for him? Thanks for all your help your going to give me!
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  • GOP Poison Stan 2012/10/07 17:51:45
    GOP Poison
    +1
    Chokmah has earned the title of idiot of the year
  • Chokmah GOP Poison 2012/10/07 22:27:17
    Chokmah
    LOL... what a moron!
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/15 10:54:25
    Stan
    +1
    What's the matter half-wit, is the truth a little to hard for you to swallow, or is there nothing in your eccho chamber that can help you?
  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/16 05:37:16
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/19 11:33:51
    Stan
    That is exactly why I asked for your help in a posting above, as I knew that you and the truth were good friends, and you would help me understand Romney and why he is such a good choice for President. I am waiting with bated breath to be informed by you as to what the real Romney truth is. I noticed you were getting frustrated, angry and ugly.

    I just couldn't understand what your hissy-fit was all about? I thought we were becoming such close friends too?????? You shouldn't feel annoyed, as you know I'm just looking out for your best interests. You should really just chill a little bit, as I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself. I guess these politics just get you all riled up sometimes, and truth and facts are such a bitch to overcome?
  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/19 19:24:41
    Chokmah
    It's a mathematical thing. The U.S. does not have an income problem, it has a spending problem. Obama does not seem to understand this. Under Obama's spending plans the annual gov't expenditures would rise to about 23% of GDP, yet gov't revenues would only be about 19%. Leaving a 4% of GDP deficit each year!

    So if the average GDP is $15 Trilliion we would be running about $600 Billion deficit each year. This is unsustainable over time. Obama has already run up about $6 Trillion on the national credit card.

    Romney wants to cut spending back to 20% of GDP (about what it was under Clinton and Bush) and broaden the tax base to bring in about 19-20%. Viola', we have a balanced budget!

    Over the years gov't revenues have averaged about 18% to 19% of GDP. This was done with tax rates of 90% and with tax rates at 28%. So gov't revenues seem to have a ceiling.

    This cannot be done under Obama because Obama continues to increase spending willy-nilly to satisfy the elite and special interests. Romney, being a businessman, knows that you cannot continue a viable business by losing money each year.

    Look at your own family budget. Can you earn, say $10,000 per month, while spending $15,000 per month? Sure, for a little while, but then your creditors would demand that you stop. You e...
    It's a mathematical thing. The U.S. does not have an income problem, it has a spending problem. Obama does not seem to understand this. Under Obama's spending plans the annual gov't expenditures would rise to about 23% of GDP, yet gov't revenues would only be about 19%. Leaving a 4% of GDP deficit each year!

    So if the average GDP is $15 Trilliion we would be running about $600 Billion deficit each year. This is unsustainable over time. Obama has already run up about $6 Trillion on the national credit card.

    Romney wants to cut spending back to 20% of GDP (about what it was under Clinton and Bush) and broaden the tax base to bring in about 19-20%. Viola', we have a balanced budget!

    Over the years gov't revenues have averaged about 18% to 19% of GDP. This was done with tax rates of 90% and with tax rates at 28%. So gov't revenues seem to have a ceiling.

    This cannot be done under Obama because Obama continues to increase spending willy-nilly to satisfy the elite and special interests. Romney, being a businessman, knows that you cannot continue a viable business by losing money each year.

    Look at your own family budget. Can you earn, say $10,000 per month, while spending $15,000 per month? Sure, for a little while, but then your creditors would demand that you stop. You either have to increase income or live within your means. It is a lot easier to cut back on extras and dining out every night than it is to dramatically increase your income at the drop of a hat.
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  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/23 00:15:17
  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/23 01:53:00
    Chokmah
    Ask yourself right now what you'll do when personal and corporate tax rates double here in America, just like they're doing today in parts of socialist Europe

    Ask yourself what you'll do when the government is "forced" to slash Social Security and Medicare benefits by two-thirds of what they are now

    Ask yourself what you'll do when nobody can get loans to buy a new car or new house or start a small business... or what you'll do when even your local pharmacy won't take credit cards.

    Ask yourself what you'll do when you can't get a passport to leave America. Ask yourself about a freeze on your bank accounts and a "total surveillance" future.

    Get ready for a total lockdown on your bank account... total confiscation of your 401(k) savings... and a meltdown of anything else you have stowed away.
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/25 11:03:49
    Stan
    I Would simply ask you what your smoking, and then see if you have any facts, truth and reality of anything about, the lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth you just told. These all come out of your Republican echo chambers just like the the Death Panels, the Birthers, the conspiracy theory that Obama stole $716 billion out of Medicare, Obama doubled the national debt, Obama has made the economy worse, the Filthy Rich are job creators, The US has massive voter fraud, Romney will not raise taxes on the middle and poor classes, Obama got rid of the work requirement for welfare, Romney really cares about the 47%, Romney was the one who saved the Auto Industry, unregulated corporations is freedom, etc., etc. etc. Must I remind you of all of the Romney and Republican lies, conspiracy theories and distortions of the truth you group of maggots keep inventing as I have dozens and dozens more?

    Ask yourself what are you going to do it the ocean dries up or what are you going to do when we pass the tipping point for global warming? Are you going to fight in another war when Romney bombs Iran? What are you going to do if Romney and Ryan win the election and their proposed budget plan explodes the national debt, and drags us into another Great Depression? And what are you ...





    I Would simply ask you what your smoking, and then see if you have any facts, truth and reality of anything about, the lies, conspiracy theories, and distortions of the truth you just told. These all come out of your Republican echo chambers just like the the Death Panels, the Birthers, the conspiracy theory that Obama stole $716 billion out of Medicare, Obama doubled the national debt, Obama has made the economy worse, the Filthy Rich are job creators, The US has massive voter fraud, Romney will not raise taxes on the middle and poor classes, Obama got rid of the work requirement for welfare, Romney really cares about the 47%, Romney was the one who saved the Auto Industry, unregulated corporations is freedom, etc., etc. etc. Must I remind you of all of the Romney and Republican lies, conspiracy theories and distortions of the truth you group of maggots keep inventing as I have dozens and dozens more?

    Ask yourself what are you going to do it the ocean dries up or what are you going to do when we pass the tipping point for global warming? Are you going to fight in another war when Romney bombs Iran? What are you going to do if Romney and Ryan win the election and their proposed budget plan explodes the national debt, and drags us into another Great Depression? And what are you going to do when the Filthy Rich takes all of the nations money? We can all play this game of yours called "WHAT IF"?????

    Can you prove any of your what ifs are going to happen and if so show the facts and proof? You see half-wit, you can't prove one thing your suggesting is provable or a fact, but I can prove several of mine are a certainty if the Republicans win the election. So what I and millions of other Americans are going to do is make damn sure Romney and Ryan get taken out with the other garbage when we vote them down. After all, Romney has said he doesn't plan to be the President of all the people, just the Filthy Rich ones. So tell me maggot, what are you going to do when your not one of the Filthy Rich?

    If Romney even had a chance of winning, and just ask yourself, can you prepare yourself to be ruled by Corporate Fascism and Oligarchy/Plutocracy, because freedom would no longer be an option?

    Wow, after all of the Financial wizardry and mathematical rhetoric in your last posting, you just went deaf, dumb, and mute in answer anything I gave you, and you just couldn't run away and change the subject to the "What If" questions fast enough could you?? When pinned down, you just can't answer the facts, truth, and reality, so you play ignorant, stupid, and dumbfounded. I understand your conundrum maggot, and I have this great big old heart and can forgive you for your malfunction. Did it ever occur to you that your in way over your head? Ha, Ha, a, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha. You must really like having your face constantly being shoved in piles of your own lying crap, because you keep sticking your chin out to get bitch-slapped?
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  • Stan GOP Poison 2012/10/19 11:22:06
    Stan
    Was it something I said half-wit? I have this big old heart and can forgive you for your mental illness.

    Conservatism is incompatible with democracy. prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world. For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy, and the destruction of reason. Conservatisms is the domination of society by an Aristocracy (The filthy Rich). Conservatism is incompatible with democracy and rational thought. They frequently attempt to destroy rational thought, for example, by using language in ways that stand just out of reach of rational debate or rebuttal.

    Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy

    Conservatives do not trust the intellect or the will of the people. Their goal is to subjugate them for the benefit of a small minority of the privileged, while convincing the masses that this is the correct order of things, they have a great dislike for the very idea of equality. Equality you see is a very mischievous and complicated concept for them to handle. If it were not for the Declaration of Independence, it would be long gone by now. Equality is an ideal that contradicts everything ...







    Was it something I said half-wit? I have this big old heart and can forgive you for your mental illness.

    Conservatism is incompatible with democracy. prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world. For thousands of years, conservatism was universally understood as being in opposition to democracy, and the destruction of reason. Conservatisms is the domination of society by an Aristocracy (The filthy Rich). Conservatism is incompatible with democracy and rational thought. They frequently attempt to destroy rational thought, for example, by using language in ways that stand just out of reach of rational debate or rebuttal.

    Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy

    Conservatives do not trust the intellect or the will of the people. Their goal is to subjugate them for the benefit of a small minority of the privileged, while convincing the masses that this is the correct order of things, they have a great dislike for the very idea of equality. Equality you see is a very mischievous and complicated concept for them to handle. If it were not for the Declaration of Independence, it would be long gone by now. Equality is an ideal that contradicts everything they stand for. It is obvious that people do not enjoy matching portions of health, skill, talent, intellect, strong family support, wealth and privilege, and even good will. Because of that, equality loses its practical meaning. Democracy, where each person's vote, value and opinion are equal with everyone else, seems a naive form of government doomed to failure to the hidden agenda of conservatism. It always has. The founders of modern day conservatism make this very clear.

    Simply put, not everyone, as defined by conservatives should have an equal voice, because not everyone should be viewed as equal, and therefore deserving. Conservatism calls for us to surrender to their acknowledged aristocracy of those who have great wealth, leadership abilities, power, and stature. These include conservative politicians, corporate CEOs, the Filthy Rich, some religious leaders who tow the line, and purveyors of local prejudices (Governor Scott Walker, etc.), those who blaspheme the name of freedom by trying to control the thoughts and values of others. We all know them well

    Setting up an aristocracy of power is the central cause of conservatism, despite all the talk about national debt, religion, patriotism, taxes, spending, gun rights, and abortion. These issues are nothing but stepping stones to their goal, and all one has to do is look how these leaders live their lives to verify it (Glenn Beck, Sara Palin, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Mitch McConnell, etc.). Their hypocrisy is undeniable, which is why wedge issues never really get resolved. Actions speak louder than words. Their chief concern proven over and over again is to cater to the Filthy Rich and powerful-while making sure that the working people are subserviently supportive of them through DEFICIT PRODUCING TAX CUTS, even against their own interests. Some democracy. When they talk of tradition, this is what they mean. They are harking back to a form of aristocracy rule rooted in the Middle Ages.This is exactly the process by which Corporate fascism or Oligarchy/Plutocracy are created.

    Conservatives are all fundamentalists with a top dressing of chaos and destruction. That is why they are the stupidest of Conservatives, T-Boogers, and reactionary in politics and the most bigoted of obstructionists and domestic terrorists. When it comes to getting their hate on they are all of the same opinion: stop it, lie about it, distort it, obstruct it, flog it, dynamite it, and stamp the truth right out of it.

    I love it when conservatives get all flustered and angry
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  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/15 10:22:24
    Stan
    +1
    It was your group of maggots who created this economic abyss causing people to lose their homes, jobs, retirements, and life savings, so why don't you ask yourself why the unemployment checks and food stamps have gone up so high? The only people you blame are the poor while your group of maggots give more DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS. TELL ME HALF-WIT WHEN DID ALL OF YOUR HATE BEGIN?

    Your pathology is that of irrational hate which demonstrates insecurity, helplessness, guilt, and the inability to effect change. Hatred of a person based on race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or national origin constitutes irrational hate. Your comments show your pathology in great detail. This is not the comment of the Presidents Ideology or policies, it is an outright attack on our Black African President

    The more insecure you feel, the larger the hate mask you wear and this Black African American President just drives you into a racist rage. Irrational hate bleeds through day-to-day activities in the form of racial barbs and ethnic humor. Irrational hate elevates the hater above the hated. Many insecure people feel a sense of self-worth by relegating a person or group of people to a lower status, much the same way a school yard bully does. Not al...



















































    It was your group of maggots who created this economic abyss causing people to lose their homes, jobs, retirements, and life savings, so why don't you ask yourself why the unemployment checks and food stamps have gone up so high? The only people you blame are the poor while your group of maggots give more DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS TO YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTERS. TELL ME HALF-WIT WHEN DID ALL OF YOUR HATE BEGIN?

    Your pathology is that of irrational hate which demonstrates insecurity, helplessness, guilt, and the inability to effect change. Hatred of a person based on race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity, or national origin constitutes irrational hate. Your comments show your pathology in great detail. This is not the comment of the Presidents Ideology or policies, it is an outright attack on our Black African President

    The more insecure you feel, the larger the hate mask you wear and this Black African American President just drives you into a racist rage. Irrational hate bleeds through day-to-day activities in the form of racial barbs and ethnic humor. Irrational hate elevates the hater above the hated. Many insecure people feel a sense of self-worth by relegating a person or group of people to a lower status, much the same way a school yard bully does. Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people.

    GOP JOB OBSTRUCTION TO KEEP ECONOMY FROM IMPROVING
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    http://www.thenation.com/blog...
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ra...

    The trouble with radicals is that they only read radical literature, and the trouble with conservatives is that they don't read anything

    THE REPUBLICANS are trying to make Obama look bad isn't working. Try explaining when Obama became President, the entire Grand OBSTRUCTION PARTY decided to practice OBSTRUCTION, HOLDING THE COUNTRY HOSTAGE TWICE, FILIBUSTERING AND BLOCKING ALL JOB CREATION, "SOCIAL ENGINEERING", SOCIAL DARWINISM, A WAR AGAINST AMERICA, WOMEN, THE MIDDLE AND POOR CLASSES, EDUCATION, UNIONS AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT, VOTER SUPPRESSION, DESTROYING THE POST OFFICE AND OVER 100,000 POSTAL JOBS,,SOCIAL SECURITY, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, MORE DEBT PRODUCING TAX CUTS FOR YOUR FILTHY RICH ARISTOCRATIC MASTER, AND JUST PLAIN OLD DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

    RIGHT WING HATE GROUPS AND EXTREMISTS
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  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/16 05:43:26
    Chokmah
    The sleazy snake oil salesman from Hope, Arkansas started all this financial whoremongering. What with his Community Reinvestment Act and siccing Janet Reno on the banks, and then appointing Franklin Delano Raines to head up FNMA. The coup de grace was Alan Greenspan, the dumbest man alive, stepping on the cash spigot at the Fed thereby fueling the tech bubble until it burst, only to coincide with Bawney Fwank's blustering and Bill Clinton's liberalization of Wall Street.

    The Perfect Storm was upon us.
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/19 12:24:17
    Stan
    Oh boy, more pent up frustration and anger. Poor Bubba, I feel so sorry for your out of control irrational hatred. Now you have irrational hatred for Bill Clinton too? Tell your old buddy Stan what is wrong with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, as I have done research, looked at the recorded history, and did some fact -checking on that very Act, so maybe I can help you out with your quandary? After all, what are good friends for?

    Is your claims of what you are claiming as bad as your group of maggots destroying Unions, Collective Bargaining, or disfranchising American's Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country? I haven't seen any facts, proof, truth, or reality that VOTER FRAUD was a major problem in this country., and didn't The Supreme court make the same ruling about voter suppression just recently?

    OOPS, they did catch a company using fraud in signing up voters in the swing states, who were hired by Republicans. I guess they were doing fraudulent things for your Republican party in the last election so they were asked to change their name so people wouldn't connect them to their previous name and fraud!. I guess they had to be fired by the GOP because they were destroying Democratic applications to sign up to vote, and they are currently be...





    Oh boy, more pent up frustration and anger. Poor Bubba, I feel so sorry for your out of control irrational hatred. Now you have irrational hatred for Bill Clinton too? Tell your old buddy Stan what is wrong with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977, as I have done research, looked at the recorded history, and did some fact -checking on that very Act, so maybe I can help you out with your quandary? After all, what are good friends for?

    Is your claims of what you are claiming as bad as your group of maggots destroying Unions, Collective Bargaining, or disfranchising American's Constitutional right to vote and have a voice in their own country? I haven't seen any facts, proof, truth, or reality that VOTER FRAUD was a major problem in this country., and didn't The Supreme court make the same ruling about voter suppression just recently?

    OOPS, they did catch a company using fraud in signing up voters in the swing states, who were hired by Republicans. I guess they were doing fraudulent things for your Republican party in the last election so they were asked to change their name so people wouldn't connect them to their previous name and fraud!. I guess they had to be fired by the GOP because they were destroying Democratic applications to sign up to vote, and they are currently being sued by Florida, and now the feds are investigating them. Oh boy, I guess their was Voter Fraud, just not by the Democrats.

    Sorry about that Bubba. How do you think this economic abyss stacks up with the things your bringing up, and what is the relevance of what you are claiming to the economic mess we are still having? Don't you want to talk about why the economy is not getting better faster, as that is another area I have spent a lot of time on and gathered a lot of facts. I would gladly share all of the facts and truth I have found on the subject. Truth and facts are my mission my friend, and what a great source of knowledge and truth I can share with you?

    What is the perfect storm your referring too, because I read the '"CONCLUSIONS OF THE FINANCIAL CRISIS INQUIRY COMMISSION" reported to Congress and the President, and it doesn't seem to agree with what you just said. But then, you know me and my obsession with recorded history, facts, proof, truth, and reality. I spent some time gathering the facts, proof, truth, and reality on that very subject, so I am positive that I can bring some light on that subject matter too. The facts and truth always sets you free Bubba.

    Let's really get in a good old debate and bring up the facts, proof, truth, and reality as it is so cathartic???????? See what good friends we are becoming, and I am thrilled you want to debate this with me so I can help educate you and help you Bubba.
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  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/19 19:25:42
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/23 00:18:13
    Stan
    As I thought, another gaping primate living in their impervious bubble where the facts, truth, and reality never get in. What's the matter half-wit, the facts and truth scare the hell out of you???
  • Chokmah Stan 2012/10/23 01:55:49
  • Stan Chokmah 2012/10/25 11:24:43
    Stan
    I have to give you credit where credit is due. You really love and can't get bitch slapped enough, and love the smell of getting you faced shoved right up to your ears in mounds of your lying crap. Didn't your mommy ever tell you how dangerous it is to play hopscotch with a Unicorn? Bubba, when you have a bull by the hind leg, it is smarter to just let go. Really? 100,000 sperm and you were the fastest? Growing old is inevitable, but in your case, growing up isn't. For God's sake, learn from your parent's mistake and use birth control. That is why conservatives need access to contraceptives more than any other group. Conservative Pol-I-Tics poli meaning many and tics meaning small blood sucking parasites
  • Reichstolz 2012/08/22 16:16:01 (edited)
    Undecided
    Reichstolz
    Considering the dependency party does not concern itself with anything but intentions, I would contend they will intend to let it go until there is no choice but to end the program.
  • crossboy56 2012/08/22 16:14:36
    Yes They Do
    crossboy56
    The Poker-face Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan did not tell you that there is a $999.5 Trillion dollars plus of SURPLUS FUNDS in social security and medicare/medicaid. The death toll of USA citizens create this surplus. The Privatization of social security and medicare/medicaid will allow wall-street to gamble with your retirement funds." WALL-STREET MOTTO: INVEST ONLY MONEY THAT YOU CAN AFORD TO LOSE"!
  • Reichstolz crossboy56 2012/08/22 16:18:08
    Reichstolz
    Surplus? You cannot be that stupid. There are only 2 people working for every person on entitlements. Just 10 years ago there were 6 people working for every person on entitlements. Just 20 years ago there were 10 people working for every person on entitlements. You are either brain dead or completely stupid, which is it?
  • meme14 Reichstolz 2012/09/20 22:10:18
    meme14
    I am curious - how many were working for every person on entitlements under Bush? Not much better than it is now I would guess - and in case you missed it..we are in the worst recession since the great depression. And you should really define 'entitlements'..because these people will assume you mean welfare...by 'entitlement' do you mean elderly who receive social security benefits?
  • Reichstolz meme14 2012/09/21 14:27:02
    Reichstolz
    By entitlement I mean government assistance that falls on those who support the general fund to deliver. That includes food stamps, social security, medicare, medicaid, welfare, farm subsidies, etc.

    In case you missed it the recession ended in 2009 prior to stimulus being implemented.
  • meme14 Reichstolz 2012/09/22 00:56:27
    meme14
    The slow rate of growth is because of republican grid lock.. I don't think conservatives want the economy to recover..they are doing anything they can to make him look bad...they would love for the economy to contract again. - and people are tired of it..the approval rating for congress is at only 13% - and you are way too extreme - you seem disdainful when you talk about medicare and social security...people expect those programs to be there..because they paid for them..pretty much the same way people expect a plate of food at a restaurant after they've paid for it...And you never answered..what was the ratio to working person/per person on entitlement under Bush?
  • Reichstolz meme14 2012/09/22 15:23:09
    Reichstolz
    The slow rate of growth is due to government interference into market functions it does not possess the knowledge to interfere with.
    That is the farce the dullard class has been led to believe, "they paid for it". Simple math brings to light the average social security and medicare recipient haven't paid in enough to cover the entitlement they receive.
    Under bush it was 4 to 1.

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