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Do Conservatives Really want To Go Back To the Fascist 50's ?

Manuel 2011/07/29 15:01:34
Yes, conservatives want a remake of the Fascist 50's.
No. They just want a time machine to take them back to the  Fascist 50's.
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It seems to me like the majority of conservatives want this country to go back to a time where :
Civil rights were only for certain people.
Gays stayed in the closet.
Schools put back corporal physical punishment, and read the Bible everyday.
Illegals working for pennies and being quite about being illegals.
No Liberal Democrats around.
A majority conservative thinking government in power from both Party's. ( preferably white )

I call this the Fascist 50's.....
So is this the truth?
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  • WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB 2012/03/10 10:05:06
    No. They just want a time machine to take them back to the Fascist 50's.
    WannaBeRSC the Contrarian SOB
    +1
    No, we much prefer the current situation, where pResidents get to assassinate "American citizens", detain indefinitely, commit to war without congressional approval...
    Humm, sounds kinda fascist to me.
    Hope? Change?
    Nope, the Same.
  • star 2012/02/23 07:45:24
    Yes, conservatives want a remake of the Fascist 50's.
    star
    +1
    Hey I lived in the 50's. I lived on a farm. Had plenty to eat and clothes to wear. My dad did not have a car. He made his own syrup, milked his own cows, Made his own butter and cheese. grind his own corn. Planted his own crops and harvested them. I was married in the 50's. Raised five children. My husband was a machanic. Went through the gas wars in Ca.It wasn't because there were no gas. Their ships just were not allowed ashore. There were long lines of people in line to buy gas. Many times they came and stayed all night. Welfare was for the very poor or severely disabled. Somes times we had Health Insurance and sometimes didn't. People did not go to the Dr. every time they had a problem. We knew how to Dr our selves for most problems.
  • Manuel star 2012/03/08 01:12:16
    Manuel
    looks like you had a very narrow view of what was going on with the rest of the country back then...that's what farm life does...
  • star Manuel 2012/03/09 03:45:14
    star
    +1
    Evidently you know nothing about the country or farming. We had The radio, Newspaper, Schools and other types of learning. We were not stupid. Most city people came from the country and small towns. We read books and magazines. Some are good spellers, some were not. But you find that in other places. I have been in 4o states. I lived in California a lot of years in the Orange County Area. I have been from the East Coast to the West Coast. From New York to California. So your point is? What have you done with your life? Interested to know, Maybe you can tell me something I do not know.
  • Manuel star 2012/03/09 04:22:55
    Manuel
    I toured all over America and Europe dozens of times with professional black blues bands lady. I am a professional guitarist. I seen the things you will never want to see..you know nothing....absolutely nothing about how it was for blacks and Hispanics in the 50's and 60's....But in Europe they had no racism with black Americans...white people there loved them and respected them...I have freedom in today's America then back in the Good old boy's racist white run 50's club.
  • Soundstorm 2012/02/17 06:58:08
    No. They just want a time machine to take them back to the Fascist 50's.
    Soundstorm
    +3
    The America of the 1950's ate Fascists for breakfast and spit them out at noon. How twisted and ludicrous to assume the society that defended freedom in Europe and the Far East and was struggling to throw off its racial apartheid in those years was anything resembling Mussolini's Fascism. Take a ride if you don't believe me.

    Back to the Future
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/02/17 07:04:19
    Manuel
    LOL...and those same white fascist people from America that went to fight Hither were racists to the million of blacks and Hispanics and American Indians...Now I am going to throw up...
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/02/17 07:16:57
    Soundstorm
    +2
    And what happened? Some of those same people that fought Hitler and Tojo who were Republicans defied Democrat racists like Robert Byrd and ended the Jim Crow laws. You just resent the Republicans for depriving you of your favorite hate fix.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/02/19 04:32:21
    Manuel
    In the bad guy group you got Conservative Republicans and conservative democrats who are former Dixie-crats and now called blue dogs...

    And in the guy good group you got moderate Republicans and Liberal Democrats. Are we understanding things yet?
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/02/19 04:54:50
    Soundstorm
    +2
    They're your good guys and bad guys according to your myopic partisanship. Not according to history's. You only spin history to keep hate alive while everybody else is done with it.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/02/22 01:04:15
    Manuel
    +1
    lol....nobody on the right is done with it and they will never be done with it...they all hate Obama.....lol
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/02/22 02:43:16
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Only your side injects race into every issue as if it were 50 years ago. In fact you always have to reach back that far to dredge up examples of racism because you will never be done with it and the left unilaterally hates black Conservatives. So I'm lol about you.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 01:13:46
    Manuel
    you guys just axed your black canidates...lol..I'm laughing about that....racism is herecto stay on the right...lol
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/08 01:17:55 (edited)
    Soundstorm
    The Chicago Democratic machine axed Herman Cain. Allen West is still in Congress. If the Republicans axed anybody it was Rick Perry. Time to get your head out of the old century, Manny.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/10 03:40:02
    Manuel
    Rick Perry did...SS and the conservatives left West to crickets for an audience...and i am in the 21th century...but all the GOP candidates are still in the 20th century 1950's good old boys club...and so are you....
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/10 03:51:13
    Soundstorm
    Your statement about Allen West and Rick Perry doesn't even make sense except maybe in your fevered imagination. There's nobody back in the 1950s but you, Manny. Your own delusional Fascist 1950s fantasy.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/12 04:41:10
    Manuel
    your mind still thinks like the GOBWC
  • star Manuel 2012/03/10 01:25:31
    star
    +1
    So they hate Obama for being Black only wake up. They dislike him for His policies. There is a difference between hate and dislike. There is only a small gap between love and hate. I have Black friends and most white people do.
  • Manuel star 2012/03/10 03:51:52 (edited)
    Manuel
    Obama's policy's are not bad. I think they are very good and a big move forward....and all I said was you guys axed your black candidates which is true......sure conservatives have black friends...and I think that's great...but the majority of them are not comfortable with a black man in the white house no matter who party they are from and that's not because of hate...it's in most of their blood for the stereo views about blacks...It would be great to see an Hispanic in the W H someday too...and that will happen but not from the conservative GOP,,,it will happen because of the Liberal side of the Democrat party. Heck the Liberal side of the Democrat party will also be the first to put a women in the W.H. ...that's another thing the right is not to keen on and again not because of hate...look at what happen with Palin... :)
  • star Manuel 2012/03/12 02:57:20 (edited)
    star
    I live in a all white county and those surrounding my county and these countries are all white. But you know Obama carried all these counties. So your post does not hold water. There are Jews, Mexican, Indian and others. racism exists so get use to it. I am not saying it is right but that is just how it is. Racism causes most wars My own kids, some of them voted for Obama. I did not and it had nothing to do with him. But Democrats are for aortions. Not only those fetus still but those who are born and are tossed aside to die. if you don't want to have a baby you don
    t have too. Just keep their clothes on. There are several types of Birth Control.There is not excuse for abortions. That is why I do not vote for democrats any more white or black but I did till I knew not too.
  • Manuel star 2012/03/12 04:51:15
    Manuel
    I don't have to get use to racism...that's a conservative thing...I don't tolerated it....and abortion is not killing a baby...tell you what...you get a birth certificate for all fetus' and a death certificate for the ones removed...then you might have a point....

    I don't vote Republican because they are not for equal rights...they only want the Christian faith and no other religions...they don't want gay life styles and they are unfair to women's sexual matters when it comes to insurance coverage...but they will cover sexual things for men with insurance ...and the GOP is only for the 1%conservative elitists rich and Corporates...So I guess we have our reasons....
  • star Soundstorm 2012/02/23 07:49:59
    star
    +1
    If people are done with hate, Why are there wars and rumors of war?
  • Soundstorm star 2012/02/23 22:20:12
    Soundstorm
    +2
    I guess I should have specified that it's the old racial and class hatreds from a past century that Manny's always trying to reheat like leftovers that most people are done with. We have newer hatreds and issues on our plate today that leftists are reluctant to deal with since many of them are the result of their own screwups. That would explain Manny's constant obsession with the past.
  • star Soundstorm 2012/03/12 03:00:58
    star
    I understand.
  • star Manuel 2012/03/09 03:53:17
    star
    My husband is 7/8's Indian. So we know about racism. You do not have to be white to be racist. His three brothers served in World War 2. All survived. But were wounded. We have every race in America. They are Americans no matter what race they are. Hate will always be here of one kind or another until the end of Time. Everyone wants to think they are better than others. Everyone eats, sleeps and goes to The Bathroom. So one race is as good as another. You can't make people do what you want.
  • Manuel star 2012/03/09 04:28:02
    Manuel
    You say what should be true but it just isn't...truth is racism was started by whites when they first landed here...and keep at it for centuries...and a lot of that carried over into the 50's right up to now lady...that's the truth...The reality...black racism and other nonwhite racism evolved out of white racism...simple to see that...
  • star Manuel 2012/03/10 01:32:45
    star
    +1
    I never did hear my dad refer to Blacks with racism. He raised 10 kids and did not have time to be racist. In fact I never saw a Black person till I was a teenager and went to St. Louis. My sisters and brothers all worked in St. Louis and never had time to be racist. The way you talk about the whites, you also are a racist. Yes , there are still people who are racist and I am afraid there always will be unfortunately.
  • star star 2012/03/10 01:35:41
    star
    People are made fun of in all kinds of way. Either by the way they walk, talk etc. You don't think that hurts?
  • Manuel star 2012/03/10 04:04:45
    Manuel
    I am not a racist...just because I am telling the truth about how racism started doesn't make me a racist...and I don't remember saying every single conservative is a racist...but what I will say when it comes to holding the highest office in the country...many white conservatives are not comfortable with a black man in that position and not because of pure hate ...but some do hate it because of that...let me put it another way...how many white conservatives do you think actually voted for Obama? But I know the majority of every white liberal did...
  • star Soundstorm 2012/02/23 07:47:16
    star
    +1
    A very Good point
  • Soundstorm star 2012/02/23 22:32:42
    Soundstorm
    +1
    The 1950s were merely a quiet transition between a catastrophic war and the post modern cultural upheaval of the 1960s when most Americans were still rooted in traditional values handed down from the 19th century. The Americans of the Saturday Evening Post era may not have been angels but they were far from anything resembling Fascism in spite of Manny's lame attempts at revisionist history.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 01:21:39
    Manuel
    Maybe you should go back in a time machine and be a Hispainc or a black man living in the cities and across the tracks...bet you would have a totally diffrent view about the 50's...
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/08 01:37:39
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Imagine a society with no gangsta rap, drive by shootings, 70% fatherless children. Life was better for minorities even in those times when they were marginalized by Democratic majorities.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 01:46:34
    Manuel
    first off it was started first by all white record companies that pushed all this stuff on gangsta rap for the big money...and drive by shootings were happening in the 50's dude...kids were stabbing each others in schools as well...but white conservatives didn't care about that back then because it was only being done in black and Hispanic hoods that was controlled by white conservative gangs to keep booze ,drugs and guns flowing into those areas....You would be surprised what I witnessed with my own eyes back in the 50's as a kid.....
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/08 03:21:07
    Soundstorm
    Blacks and Hispanics are the ones who don't care that their children are career criminals and killing each other. They're the ones profiting off of Rap music and drugs. I can't imagine where you racial conspiracy theory hate mongers get the idea that any white Conservative is capable of controlling what goes on in these welfare subsidised ghettos. You only care about the tragic chaotic lives these inner city people for the opportunites to exploit them politiically. The left has done NOTHING in the last 50 years to save these people from their lives of misery and destruction. Doing so would not serve their purposes.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 06:59:30
    Manuel
    The left has help by the countless thousands of poor kids get into colleges...gave families welfare for support and many families because of that help got on their feet...

    The left have developed many programs that helped many poor devolve skills for decent jobs that they could have never got with out this help....
    The left fought for better housing and got slum lords who are majority white to fix their buildings etc. And the slums lords played game with that...but then they really learned how to rip off the Government with phony repair bills...good god what scams...But here's the deal in the 50's...

    Ghetto were created totally by mostly majority whites that owned the properties because they would never do any maintenance on those proprieties forever...that's why those hoods are so run down..I remember as a kid seeing grown up gangs of whites would just throw a black or Hispanic family into the streets if they complained about the heater or toilet was not working...etc...or the roof was leaking...etc...what ever the complaint was back in the 50's they sent a mob of whites over to that property and threw them out literally...and cops did nothing about it... And another poor nonwhite family would move in the next day...and months later the whole cycle would start all over again....










    The left has help by the countless thousands of poor kids get into colleges...gave families welfare for support and many families because of that help got on their feet...

    The left have developed many programs that helped many poor devolve skills for decent jobs that they could have never got with out this help....
    The left fought for better housing and got slum lords who are majority white to fix their buildings etc. And the slums lords played game with that...but then they really learned how to rip off the Government with phony repair bills...good god what scams...But here's the deal in the 50's...

    Ghetto were created totally by mostly majority whites that owned the properties because they would never do any maintenance on those proprieties forever...that's why those hoods are so run down..I remember as a kid seeing grown up gangs of whites would just throw a black or Hispanic family into the streets if they complained about the heater or toilet was not working...etc...or the roof was leaking...etc...what ever the complaint was back in the 50's they sent a mob of whites over to that property and threw them out literally...and cops did nothing about it... And another poor nonwhite family would move in the next day...and months later the whole cycle would start all over again... Is that a piece of the 50's you forgot about ?. But even when the left step in with law and tried to put a stop to it... no go dude...because it was at a time where majority racist conservative whites ran the show...

    It was things like this that caused Black and white Liberals and the likes of black leaders such as MLK and Maclom X to rise up and protest against things like this being done to blacks and all nonwhites all over the country...are you totally ignorant of all this?

    ...The Liberals led the charge in the 60's that helped bring in civil rights for all these people....they fought for women's and gay rights... all the conservative right did was complain about their tax dollars being used to help many of these people....

    and this is racist...Blacks and Hispanics are the ones who don't care that their children are career criminals and killing each other....

    because by saying this which came out of your heart and mind, you are saying everyone that is Black and Hispanic is this way....that was very typical majority conservative thinking back then dude...most white conservatives are raised to believe that Blacks and Hispanics are no good people....And it looks like that still the norm for the majority of them today as well...such as your statement proves. You can't call this a mistake because it was clearly written out of your passion of hate that you were spoon fed all your life growing up......and you don't even see it...you are totally blind to it like you are to the realities I am telling you about that I have seen with my own eyes.....in this sense you give me the impression that most white conservatives live in denial ...

    And sorry to inform you but mostly whites own the record industries and run the music business....and the majority of organized crime is run by whites that are powerful...Black criminals in America
    You do realize that Motown a black owned record company turned down Run DMC...because they didn't like the image they produced for young blacks to listen to and see...But.a white Company picked them up. The same company that produced Arrow-smith...because they knew they could exploit them in the black communities who would buy those so called Go Go rap records and make a fortune...You know SS...I am not against you or hate you....but I do want you to know some of this truth...
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  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/08 07:10:55
    Soundstorm
    You always focus on the past because you think it's yours to rewrite. But your revisions never makes sense in light of the wide path of ruin the left has inflicted on the poor every time they exploit them. That is why people living with the results of the left's influence today reject your lies.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 07:22:15
    Manuel
    everything that happen back then is the result of how things are now dude....I don't appreciate you calling me a liar when I witnessed these things...and the only people rejecting what I say are mostly white Conservatives...But I can tell you didn't read the full post...
  • Soundstorm Manuel 2012/03/08 07:26:22
    Soundstorm
    +1
    Witnessing the past is not the same as being honest about it.
    Speaking of ghettos built by whites, the hellish housing projects were built by your caring liberal Democrats.
  • Manuel Soundstorm 2012/03/08 07:53:11
    Manuel
    That's what you don't get.lol...I was totally honest...because of what was done back then...today many of these housing projects are kept up with repairs and heated in winters...many of the properties are cleaned on a daily basis. The only problems is the drugs and prostitution still lingers on... And lots of run down places were torn down and new housing buildings for the poor were put up...like I said...what happened in the past brought on these changes by Liberals fighting for poor peoples rights... if the 60's never happened...all those old run down white owned ghettos would have never gotten tore down and rebuild...so you are once again wrong...very wrong...
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