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Do Americans have more freedoms today under the Progressive socialist Obama than they did under the true Liberal JFK?

tncdel 2013/01/02 17:56:28
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  • John Galt jr or Ron/jon 2013/01/07 00:51:26
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    John Galt jr or Ron/jon
    Patriot act, Rave act, drug free workplace acts,
    Of course Obama had nothing to do with creating these...
  • Boo 2013/01/03 18:18:06
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Boo
    JFK encouraged citizens to act responsibly and serve their country, not to expect a hand-out from the government!
  • ehrhornp 2013/01/03 16:25:59
    About the same [comment as you wish].
    ehrhornp
    +1
    First of all Obama is not a progressive socialist. If he was we would have single payer universal health care instead of a Nixon type health plan. Second of all Kennedy was a moderate not a liberal. He wasn't much different from Nixon, the originator of Obama care.
  • Quietman ~PWCM~JLA 2013/01/03 16:15:36
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Quietman   ~PWCM~JLA
  • hatter 2013/01/03 12:50:28
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    hatter
    +1
    JFK promoted serving your country. Obama promotes handouts and class warfare.
  • Denny 2013/01/03 10:59:22
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Denny
    +1
    Are you kidding??? Kennedy was the first Reagan follower. He was the first to lower taxes after WW2.
  • sneekyfoot 2013/01/03 09:21:56
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    sneekyfoot
    With the increase in population we lose personal freedoms
  • Kaleokualoha 2013/01/03 07:34:34 (edited)
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Kaleokualoha
    +1
    Absolutely! Civil Rights have come very far since then. America was still under Jim Crow laws, which relegated African-Americans (and other non-whites) to second-class status during the JFK administration. Gender discrimination was rampant. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was still a figment of the imagination.

    Even within mainstream America, freedom of the press was severely curtailed compared to the 21st century. The media operated under restrictive codes. The FBI even investigated songs like "Louie Louie" for obscenty (see http://vault.fbi.gov/louie-lo... ).

    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer (1788 - 1860)
  • terry Kaleoku... 2013/01/04 18:54:04
    terry
    200 YEARS AGO BLACK MEN IN AFRICA CAPTURED OTHER BLACK MEN AND SOLD THEM AS SLAVES TO PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY ARE STILL DOING IT TO THIS DAY. THEY JUST DON'T SELL SLAVES TO AMERICA ANYMORE.

    THE FACT IS, THAT THE SLAVES WERE HOUSED, FED, GIVEN MEDICAL CARE BY THE SLAVE OWNERS. TO RECEIVE ALL OF THESE THINGS THEY HAD TO WORK.

    200 YEARS LATER MANY, MANY BLACKS RECEIVE ALL OF THE SAME THINGS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK. WORKING AMERICANS, BLACK & WHITE HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED AND ALL WE HEAR IS THAT THE WORKING PEOPLE, BLACK & WHITE ARE NOT GIVING ENOUGH TO THE "PARASITES". KING OBAMA HAS DONE NOTHING MORE THAT PERPETUATE THIS ATTITUDE.
  • Cat 2013/01/03 06:51:15
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Cat
    +1
    Today Americans and their electronic communications are regularly recorded tracked and watched. This didn't exist in 1963. The "Patriot Act" gives the government the right to investigate anyone it chooses and even to arrest and hold Americans incognito indefinitely.
  • harry 2013/01/03 04:18:41
    YES [explain why you think so].
    harry
    +1
    It depends what freedom means for you.
    I think freedom includes a social net. People should be secured against life risks like
    Health issues, free education, unemployment, freedom of speech, bankruptcy, crime, fire and poverty and the right to work.
    Only when this basic issues are secured, you may be free.

    If you understand freedom as living without laws or the laws of nature thenn you will find out that earlier or later you will find the same argument.
  • lclon 2013/01/03 03:00:47
    About the same [comment as you wish].
    lclon
    I have never lost my freedom. Christ provides me freedom thereby I am free indeed. Whatever Christ provides it is good. Without Christ, people are bounded in sin. With Christ, people are free from sin.
  • wtw 2013/01/03 02:49:34
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    wtw
    +1
    I would vote for JFK style government in a heart beat over this communist.
  • RoyJLores 2013/01/03 01:34:38
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    RoyJLores
    +1
    Absolutely not first of all JFK was a classic liberal which today would be considered a libertarian bordering on Anarchist...
  • Beccy 2013/01/03 01:28:39
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Beccy
    +1
    The world was a better place to live under JFK. His words were ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country.
  • Richie Rich 2013/01/03 00:34:52
  • Neilapam 2013/01/02 23:34:46
    About the same [comment as you wish].
    Neilapam
    +2
    Really? Socialist?? You guys really dont know what this word means, dont you?
  • Tattooe... Neilapam 2013/01/02 23:47:42
    TattooedSailor
    +3
    1
    : one who advocates or practices socialism
    2
    capitalized : a member of a party or political group advocating socialism
  • Richie ... Tattooe... 2013/01/03 00:35:41
  • Tattooe... Richie ... 2013/01/03 18:12:03
    TattooedSailor
    She asked what the word meant. not any ones interpretation of the word.
  • Neilapam Tattooe... 2013/01/03 19:40:13
    Neilapam
    +1
    i live in a country that we had 2 dictatorships, we really couldnt talk, or make anything, we could go to jail if they just wanted to, be be tortured or killed... now i know you no how to use ctrl c, ctrl v and a dictionary, go to dictionaty again and look for the word socialism, than as an inteligent person you can find another sources to explain better how socialism works.... theoretically and unfortunelly what really happens when men do whatever they want to do when the people are dumb....
  • JCD aka... Neilapam 2013/01/03 21:59:28
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    Your President, Ms Dilma Rousseff, was tortured by Fascist military thugs when she was a student. She is a strong, courageous woman. Maybe not a Socialist, but a Social Democrat, or am I wrong?
  • Neilapam JCD aka... 2013/01/04 02:36:05
    Neilapam
    +1
    exactly!!! you're right!
  • Gid 2013/01/02 22:25:23
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Gid
    +3
    JFK would not be allowed to run in today's democrat party.
  • JCD aka... Gid 2013/01/03 21:59:46
    JCD aka "biz"
    Why?
  • Gid JCD aka... 2013/01/03 22:05:40
    Gid
    From BrainyQuote:
    Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future.

    Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men.

    My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.

    Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.

    Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom.

    Conformity is the jailer of freedom and the enemy of growth.

    A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.

    Now I'm not saying he would get the republican nomination with these as talking points, but this is not the mindset of the bulk of the Democratic party
  • JCD aka... Gid 2013/01/04 22:27:56
    JCD aka "biz"
    Thank you.
  • Lanikai 2013/01/02 21:27:15
    YES [explain why you think so].
    Lanikai
    +2
    DANG that rolling screen.


    No, we are not more free, not better off, not freeier, and not a happier nation.

    welfare slags are living in abundance, average families are sliding into poverty and the progressive bastard in chief is spending us into a greece like crash.
  • Karlheinz 2013/01/02 21:02:30
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Karlheinz
    +5
    JFK dominates Obama in every shape of form when it comes to being a president, JFK knew about politics and Obama is from a family of communists.
  • tncdel Karlheinz 2013/01/02 22:44:47
    tncdel
    +3
    Another difference between a true Liberal and a globalist Progressive: JFK was fiercely loyal to America and was a genuine war hero.
  • Cher 2013/01/02 20:58:12
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    Cher
    +5
    Our currancy is all but shot now, in the JFK era it was tied to silver and gold..
  • SoD 2013/01/02 20:53:16
    NO [tell us why you think not].
    SoD
    +4
    There was no ATF, DHS, EPA, DEA, or ACA under JFK.

    Our currency was also tied to gold and silver under JFK.
  • Kookieless The Sexy Nihilis... 2013/01/02 20:51:26
  • Lanikai Kookiel... 2013/01/02 21:27:54
    Lanikai
    +3
    he is a full on communist.
  • Kookiel... Lanikai 2013/01/02 22:39:39
  • Lanikai Kookiel... 2013/01/02 22:40:20 (edited)
  • Kookiel... Lanikai 2013/01/02 22:41:55
  • tncdel Kookiel... 2013/01/02 22:48:40
    tncdel
    +1
    The key element you overlook that distinguishes Obama as a Progressive are his socialist and globalist agendas. If you use the weak argument that he doesn't fit the textbook definition of a socialist 100%, then so too could that "purity" standard be applied to every other real-world socialist leader, including Stalin.
  • Kookiel... tncdel 2013/01/02 22:50:53
  • SoD Kookiel... 2013/01/03 17:31:44
    SoD
    +1
    I use the general term Marxist to describe President Obama.

    This neutralizes the common Marxist obfuscation name game that you've utilized.

    Wealth redistribution is the primary tenet of Marxism and President Obama pushed that agenda during his discussion with Joe the Plumber in 2008 and hasn't stopped since.

    The phrase "fair share" is a euphemism for wealth redistribution.

    The top federal income tax rate is now 40% and the average state income tax rate is ~10%.

    Do you really think people deserve no more of their adjusted gross income than the state?

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