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Dinosaurs and the Bible?

Sodahead's Boring. March 20, 2009 21:15:45

Okay, I swear, I'm merely curious. I'm watching Number One Countdown on FUSE, and they asked it, and it made me start thinking.

I'm not trying to start any fights or debates, I really want to know why.

If dinosaurs are real, and the Bible is real, then why aren't there any dinosaurs in the Bible?
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  • +3 Kirra Blackhart... The Soul... March 20, 2009 23:58:59
    Kirra Blackhart... The Soulless Bunny

    Well, you see Kara...

    "satan" put those fossils there to trick everyone.

    Honestly and truly, that was what I was told by a christian.
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  • BiologyStudent July 13, 2009 20:28:40
    BiologyStudent

    Well, you see Kara...

    Because dinosaurs came long before the Bible. The guys who wrote the Bible couldn't possibly know about dinosaurs unless they stumbled upon a fossil at some time, which is unlikely. But there is evidence that the stories of dragons originated from fossils found by people a long time ago, so maybe some of that got to the people writting the Bible.

    But yes, most religious people will tell you that dinosaurs are a lie placed here to test their faith in God. Which, honestly, doesn't make sense to me. Why would creatures so amazing as the dinosaurs only be a joke?
  • ~*sHaNnOn*~ July 07, 2009 19:59:58
    ~*sHaNnOn*~

    I have no idea.

    idk i always think about that too but im an agnostic so i don't fell like a dumbass haha
  • Meggs May 24, 2009 04:51:26
    Meggs

    Well, you see Kara...

    actually there is something in the book of Job i think---(i am nott exactly sure what book it is but i think it is Job which is one of the oldest books in the bible)---that says something about large creatures with huge heads & bodies the most bible scholars believe that that is talking about dinosaur like creatures and dont believe everything you see in tv--DINOSAURS ARE REAL AND THE BIBLE IS REAL BUT EVOLUTION IS NOTT & IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR ADAM AND EVE TO LIVE WITH DINOSAURS BECAUSE BEFORE ADAM AND EVE SINNEED DINOSAURS WERE NOT CARNIVOROUS--THEY WERE HERBIVOURS!!!!!
  • lindsey April 24, 2009 01:27:45
    lindsey

    Well, you see Kara...

    well we don't know that God's timing is the same as ours...
    so his '7 days' might've been what we'd call say maybe '7 thousand years'....and in his 'animal time', there would have been time for dinosaurs to live, roam, and die...
  • Xinea April 07, 2009 03:01:28
    Xinea

    I have no idea.

    I think I heard one theory that whenever the bible mentions Dragons, it's dinosaurs.... which would mean that humans lived during dino-times.... which totally ruins the comet theory... so yeah. There it goes...
  • CJG April 07, 2009 00:55:29
    CJG

    Well, you see Kara...

    There are dinosaurs in the Bible :) check this out

    Job 40:

    15 "Look at the behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.

    16 What strength he has in his loins,
    what power in the muscles of his belly!

    17 His tail [b] sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

    18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
    his limbs like rods of iron.

    19 He ranks first among the works of God,
    yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

    20 The hills bring him their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.

    21 Under the lotus plants he lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

    22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround him.

    23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;
    he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

    24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes,
    or trap him and pierce his nose?

    Some say it's an elephant, but I think it's a brontosaurus.

    And then, there's Job 41

    Job 41

    1 "Can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook
    or tie down his tongue with a rope?

    2 Can you put a cord through his nose
    or pierce his jaw with a hook?
    ...

    7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons
    or his head wit...""'
    There are dinosaurs in the Bible :) check this out

    Job 40:

    15 "Look at the behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.

    16 What strength he has in his loins,
    what power in the muscles of his belly!

    17 His tail [b] sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of his thighs are close-knit.

    18 His bones are tubes of bronze,
    his limbs like rods of iron.

    19 He ranks first among the works of God,
    yet his Maker can approach him with his sword.

    20 The hills bring him their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.

    21 Under the lotus plants he lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

    22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround him.

    23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;
    he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

    24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes,
    or trap him and pierce his nose?

    Some say it's an elephant, but I think it's a brontosaurus.

    And then, there's Job 41

    Job 41

    1 "Can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook
    or tie down his tongue with a rope?

    2 Can you put a cord through his nose
    or pierce his jaw with a hook?
    ...

    7 Can you fill his hide with harpoons
    or his head with fishing spears?

    8 If you lay a hand on him,
    you will remember the struggle and never do it again!

    9 Any hope of subduing him is false;
    the mere sight of him is overpowering.
    ...

    12 "I will not fail to speak of his limbs,
    his strength and his graceful form.

    13 Who can strip off his outer coat?
    Who would approach him with a bridle?

    14 Who dares open the doors of his mouth,
    ringed about with his fearsome teeth?

    15 His back has [b] rows of shields
    tightly sealed together;

    16 each is so close to the next
    that no air can pass between.

    17 They are joined fast to one another;
    they cling together and cannot be parted.

    18 His snorting throws out flashes of light;
    his eyes are like the rays of dawn.

    19 Firebrands stream from his mouth;
    sparks of fire shoot out.

    20 Smoke pours from his nostrils
    as from a boiling pot over a fire of reeds.

    21 His breath sets coals ablaze,
    and flames dart from his mouth.

    22 Strength resides in his neck;
    dismay goes before him.

    23 The folds of his flesh are tightly joined;
    they are firm and immovable.

    24 His chest is hard as rock,
    hard as a lower millstone.

    25 When he rises up, the mighty are terrified;
    they retreat before his thrashing.

    26 The sword that reaches him has no effect,
    nor does the spear or the dart or the javelin.

    27 Iron he treats like straw
    and bronze like rotten wood.

    28 Arrows do not make him flee;
    slingstones are like chaff to him.

    29 A club seems to him but a piece of straw;
    he laughs at the rattling of the lance.

    30 His undersides are jagged potsherds,
    leaving a trail in the mud like a threshing sledge.

    31 He makes the depths churn like a boiling caldron
    and stirs up the sea like a pot of ointment.

    32 Behind him he leaves a glistening wake;
    one would think the deep had white hair.

    33 Nothing on earth is his equal—
    a creature without fear.

    34 He looks down on all that are haughty;
    he is king over all that are proud."

    http://www.genesispark.com/ge...

    Here's a link about dinosaurs in the Bible. :)
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  • Vintage March 28, 2009 04:14:44
    Vintage

    Well, you see Kara...

    the bible doesnt mention every organism that lives on this planet. It does give us the tools and guidelines to decifer(sp?) the truth from the fiction
  • justonemom March 21, 2009 18:52:44
    justonemom

    Well, you see Kara...

    Perhaps they called them something other than dinosaurs?
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    socokid March 21, 2009 14:46:00
    socokid

    Well, you see Kara...

    Bible: a collection of writings from several men a few thousands years ago, canonized, translated and printed a few billion times.

    or

    Libraries filled with decades of rigorous research, building upon knowledge tested and gained by some of the brightest minds our species have created, showing overwhelmingly dinosaurs lived well before the first humans.

    I'm sorry, but the very question is silly to me. If someone wants to have serious discussions about this, using the Bible as a resource won't even get you in the door.
  • David P March 21, 2009 05:42:49
    David P

    Well, you see Kara...

    THE BIBLE TALKS OF A GIANT BOHEMOTH IN A SWAMP WITH A LONG NECK AND A SWEEPING TAIL DESCRIBED IN A MEASUREMENT OF CUBITS LIKE THE ARC MAKING THIS BEAST HUGE. AND FITTING THE DESCRIPTION OF A BROUNTOSAUROUS.
  • Ace~Mr.Giantess~ March 21, 2009 00:58:53
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~

    Well, you see Kara...

    Dinosaurs and humans NEVER existed at the same time.
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    Sodahea... Ace~Mr.... March 21, 2009 01:00:33
    Sodahead's Boring.
    But shouldn't there be some kind of mention of them in the Bible?
  • Ace~Mr.... Sodahea... March 21, 2009 01:29:28
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    Well... there is a brief mention of the time period before people existed but not dinosaurs. There were a lot more types of prehistoric animals other than dinosaurs so if they didn't get mentioned dinosaurs would be no different.
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    manda~supermommy!!! March 21, 2009 00:49:55
    manda~supermommy!!!

    I have no idea.

    But i've been asking since I was six years old and always dismissed. Creationism vs Evolution?
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    Kirra Blackhart... The Soul... March 20, 2009 23:58:59
    Kirra Blackhart... The Soulless Bunny

    Well, you see Kara...

    "satan" put those fossils there to trick everyone.

    Honestly and truly, that was what I was told by a christian.
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    Sodahea... Kirra B... March 20, 2009 23:59:46
    Sodahead's Boring.
    LOL. Wow.
  • Ace~Mr.... Kirra B... March 21, 2009 00:59:14
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    I heard someone say that too. That's dumb.
  • victoria Kirra B... March 21, 2009 01:03:32
    victoria
    lmao. i think god put them there. [see my answer below]
    x]
  • Vintage Kirra B... March 28, 2009 04:16:58
    Vintage
    dont judge a whole based on a single persons actions. christians believe in fossils, how can you not? its like not believing in toothpaste. Just their origin and date is left up to discussion
  • Kirra B... Vintage March 28, 2009 05:43:04
    Kirra Blackhart... The Soulless Bunny
    Don't assume that I judge the whole based on a single person.
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    Xinea Kirra B... April 07, 2009 03:02:41
    Xinea
    Lol that was the first answer I got too! (Granted it was sarcasm on my evolutionist brother's part...)
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    ubiquitous_tergiversation March 20, 2009 21:49:39 (edited)
    ubiquitous_tergiversation

    Well, you see Kara...

    That's because most of the stories in the bible were made up by primitive men who didn't know anything about dinosaurs. There were a lot of things they didn't know... they didn't know the earth is round, they didn't know the sun is a star, etc.
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    pitieddust ubiquit... March 20, 2009 22:01:09
    pitieddust
    And they all spoke different languages just like we do today. It is interresting that these primitive stupid individuals could build structures that Architects today can't figure out how they did it. E.G. The pyramids of egypt.
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    ubiquit... pitieddust March 20, 2009 22:08:40
    ubiquitous_tergiversation
    I wouldn't call them stupid per se, modern humans have the advantages of technology and education but there is nothing which ultimately makes us smarter. Just because we have computers and we can read books doesn't mean we are smart enough to figure anything out for ourselves... few people are. We only appear smarter because we are standing on the backs of a few geniuses, Da Vinci, Einstein, etc. Without people like them the average person would still be little more than a caveman.
  • victoria ubiquit... March 20, 2009 22:49:30 (edited)
    victoria
    also remember plato? aristotle? they were writing your calculus book before the bible even came out. Back then there were a lot more natural geniuses than there are today.

    -and im sure that even as recently as the 1800's those who lived without electricity did not live like cavemen.
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    ubiquit... victoria March 20, 2009 23:04:08 (edited)
    ubiquitous_tergiversation
    I think I might agree with you about there being more geniuses back then, though it probably has more to do with nurture than nature. They say necessity is the mother of all invention, and people today are born into a life of consumerism in which all the basic needs are met and one can live a very comfortable life while being a complete moron and never contributing anything worthwhile to society. Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? I think to an extent that is what is happening, society dumbing itself down.
  • victoria ubiquit... March 20, 2009 23:26:18
    victoria
    Very true. There really is no such thing as "hunger" in today's society. 50 cents will buy you a taco. A couple dollars at almost any fast food joint, in fact, can feed all but gluttons.
    And there really are not too many "predators" roaming around, not unless you throw yourself into the lions den at the zoo.
    As for wars, they are all overseas.
    If you get cold, there are hundreds of jackets up for grabs that have been donated.

    Hopefully something will happen that will make our generation "grow up" so to speak.
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    ubiquit... victoria March 21, 2009 00:00:20
    ubiquitous_tergiversation
    Another problem is that mega-corporations heavily dominate modern society to the extent that they control the government and even people's thoughts. They don't value intelligence, for them it is ideal to have a nation of dumb cattle who are content to work a dull job and spend their earnings on crap they don't need. So our society has a vested interest in morons, and in many ways has begun to reward stupidity and punish intelligence.
  • victoria ubiquit... March 21, 2009 01:01:52
    victoria
    -applauds- very nice =]
  • Hematite victoria March 28, 2009 22:08:22
    Hematite
    Plato and Aristotle didn't know calculus. Newton and Leibniz invented it in the 17th century. No educated person thinks that people are any smarter now than we ever have been, but we're not stupider, either.
  • victoria Hematite March 28, 2009 22:09:26
    victoria
    ^,^
    Very nice.
  • victoria ubiquit... March 20, 2009 22:42:44
    victoria
    People back then were a lot more smart than people give them credit for. The First robot was invented thousands of years ago. It served tea to the chinese =D
  • pitieddust March 20, 2009 21:43:19 (edited)
    pitieddust

    Well, you see Kara...

    The word Dinosaur wasn't even conjured up till 1800's so what you'll have to do is look up descriptions of animals. Let me give you two that I know of, Leviathon and Behemoth. The Bible was translated initially around 1600. That's quite a gap.
    Behemoth
    (Not a Winged Insect)

    Job40:15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
    16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
    17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
    18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
    19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
    20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
    21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
    22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
    23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
    24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

    Leviathan
    Job 41:1 ¶ Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
    2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his ...
    The word Dinosaur wasn't even conjured up till 1800's so what you'll have to do is look up descriptions of animals. Let me give you two that I know of, Leviathon and Behemoth. The Bible was translated initially around 1600. That's quite a gap.
    Behemoth
    (Not a Winged Insect)

    Job40:15 ¶ Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
    16 Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
    17 He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
    18 His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
    19 He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
    20 Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
    21 He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
    22 The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
    23 Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
    24 He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

    Leviathan
    Job 41:1 ¶ Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
    2 Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
    3 Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee?
    4 Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
    5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
    6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants?
    7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears?
    8 Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more.
    9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
    10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?
    11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
    12 I will not conceal his parts, nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
    13 Who can discover the face of his garment? or who can come to him with his double bridle?
    14 Who can open the doors of his face? his teeth are terrible round about.
    15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
    16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
    17 They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
    18 By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
    19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out.
    20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
    21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
    22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
    23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
    24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone.
    25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
    26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
    27 He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood.
    28 The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble.
    29 Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
    30 Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
    31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
    32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.
    33 Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear.
    34 He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.

    Ezek 29:3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.
    4 But I will put hooks in thy jaws, and I will cause the fish of thy rivers to stick unto thy scales, and I will bring thee up out of the midst of thy rivers, and all the fish of thy rivers shall stick unto thy scales.
    5 And I will leave thee thrown into the wilderness, thee and all the fish of thy rivers: thou shalt fall upon the open fields; thou shalt not be brought together, nor gathered: I have given thee for meat to the beasts of the field and to the fowls of the heaven.
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  • Sodahea... pitieddust March 20, 2009 21:46:09
    Sodahead's Boring.
    hmmm...having looked those up, those make sense too =]

    Thank you for answering.
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    Michael pitieddust March 20, 2009 21:56:33
    Michael
    moderated...
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    David C... pitieddust March 20, 2009 22:02:19
    David Chasten chastenfamily.com
    Unfortunately your reference of "behemoth" is incorrect, the word behemoth is the origional oriental word for "hippopotamus". The book of Job written after it's protagonist an asian oriental chieftain from the 5th to 7th century B.C. had never seen the hippo until his travels. Which is where his Behemoth came from.
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    David C... pitieddust March 20, 2009 22:08:57 (edited)
    David Chasten chastenfamily.com
    Leviathan was the Greek interpretation of the Asian derelict of "Crocodile" or water creature. I had to look that one up...
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    Ace~Mr.... pitieddust March 21, 2009 01:00:01
    Ace~Mr.Giantess~
    Leviathan is a crocodile, that was a perfect description of a crocodile. And behemoth is a hippo, that's a perfect description of a hippo.
  • David Chasten chastenfamily... March 20, 2009 21:31:51
    David Chasten chastenfamily.com

    Well, you see Kara...

    In my opinion as a Catholic, we are instructed that the Bible may be interpreted as parable and not scientific fact. Although there are several references that can be proven with scientific evidence.
    The pre-evolutionary debate, (again, in my opinion) is a valid concern for Christians that take the story of creationism as fact. Although I cannot prove that the Lord didn't create the world as said in Gen; certainly that would give us a similar view throughout mankind’s "Faith" in the monotheistic trends that have become norm. That is to say, if I were God, I would place the existence of creatures prior to man simply to give man doubt, so their "choice" or free will would be questioned, and "Faith" in Him would be a greater challenge. If God made it easy to live in Faith without sacrifice, then it wouldn't really be faith, it would simply be a "club".
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    Sodahea... David C... March 20, 2009 21:35:38
    Sodahead's Boring.
    Hmmm... that makes sense. Thank you for answering =]
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