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Did The Tea Party Kill The GOP Party ?

HooCares 2013/01/30 11:00:35
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Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh have both come out recently and proclaimed the GOP to be dead.

They do not seem upset by this fact and actually are quite giddy that they took down the party of Lincoln and Reagan.

The Tea Party ran many candidates to primary long time Republicans claiming they were RINO's and in some cases the Tea Party candidates won the primary only to lose to the Democrat candidate.

This has caused a major divide in the Republican party with more Moderate Reagan Republicans and Tea Party Cons unable to get any legislation passed that would be acceptable to the American people that as a majority are more Liberal and Moderate.

The Tea Party also has more money that most Moderate Republicans and their backers are big oil and Koch indutries that have no problem wasting a few million to get someone to advoocate for their positions.

Some Moderates like Chris Christie have been very vocal about the stupid people he says have taken over the Republican party and Bobby Jindal has said openly that his party has to stop being the party of stupid people.

Both of those people are likely to run for President in 2016 against the Tea Party candidates Paul Ryan and Michelle Bachman and whoever else jumps in the ring.

So not only does the GOP have an identity crisis it looks more like this is a hostile takeover of the GOP by a well funded smaller group of social agend tea party extremists and these extremists goal is to either own the GOP or destroy it.

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  • jimrthy BN-0 2013/02/02 08:29:25
    Undecided
    jimrthy BN-0
    +1
    I think there are some horrible misconceptions here.

    #1) The Tea Party, at its core, is composed of people who truly just want smaller government that obeys the Constitution.
    #2) The GOP experienced a "hostile takeover" by big-government war-mongering morality-pushing neocons back during the 70's and 80's. Beck, Limbaugh, and Bachman are prime examples of this breed of "moderate." So are people like McCain and both Presidents Bush and that also-ran the idiots in the GOP nominated to lose the 2012 election.
    #3) The TP was, really, a reaction against those extremist forces which have teamed up with the Democrats against America's middle class. How they let themselves get so infiltrated by the rot they were protesting in the first place is a different story.

    In a way, this sort of *is* radical. The "true" Tea Partiers are pushing back to the conservative ideas of Barry Goldwater, who led the "revolution" against the so-called "Rockefeller Republicans" who'd made the Republican party basically obsolete and meaningless while FDR turned the country Socialist (with their collusion...they've never cared about anything but winning the next election).

    Personally, I'm inclined to say that the GOP has destroyed itself through its own hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy. Some of the Tea Part...





    I think there are some horrible misconceptions here.

    #1) The Tea Party, at its core, is composed of people who truly just want smaller government that obeys the Constitution.
    #2) The GOP experienced a "hostile takeover" by big-government war-mongering morality-pushing neocons back during the 70's and 80's. Beck, Limbaugh, and Bachman are prime examples of this breed of "moderate." So are people like McCain and both Presidents Bush and that also-ran the idiots in the GOP nominated to lose the 2012 election.
    #3) The TP was, really, a reaction against those extremist forces which have teamed up with the Democrats against America's middle class. How they let themselves get so infiltrated by the rot they were protesting in the first place is a different story.

    In a way, this sort of *is* radical. The "true" Tea Partiers are pushing back to the conservative ideas of Barry Goldwater, who led the "revolution" against the so-called "Rockefeller Republicans" who'd made the Republican party basically obsolete and meaningless while FDR turned the country Socialist (with their collusion...they've never cared about anything but winning the next election).

    Personally, I'm inclined to say that the GOP has destroyed itself through its own hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy. Some of the Tea Partiers are just nature filling a vacuum which most of the old white people who make up the GOP's remains refuse to admit they've created. Others are pretty much exactly like the "Occupy" protesters: they're angry and lashing out, but they don't have a clue who to blame or what to do about the mess we're in.

    Still others are exactly the sort of political schemers that are suggested in this article.

    But suggesting they have tons more money or influence than the Establishment is pretty ridiculous. Romney and his cronies showed at the Republican Convention that the Rockefellers have re-taken total control of the party. They spit on the grassroots and then seemed amazed when we didn't respond properly by licking their hands in thanks.

    Which is ironic, considering how little involvement and influence the grass roots has left over the Tea Party. But that's really what this question is all about.
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  • tblackb 2013/02/01 02:26:41
    Yes because...
    tblackb
    too radical for most of the country
  • freedomsox 2013/01/31 22:06:05
    No because...
    freedomsox
    +1
    Romney and McCain were not Tea Party picks.
  • Queen B 2013/01/31 06:05:28
    Yes because...
    Queen B
    Extremist Bible thumpers, wingnuts, war mongers and the baggers all helped bring down the gop. Good riddance.
  • Broken 2013/01/31 04:20:28
    Yes because...
    Broken
    The old GOP needs to die.
  • Helmholtz 2013/01/31 02:09:04
    Yes because...
    Helmholtz
    I really doubt that Paul Ryan will run in 2016.
  • Arel 2013/01/31 01:45:23
    No because...
    Arel
    +1
    The GOP has done it to itself.
  • Beccy 2013/01/31 01:31:15
    No because...
    Beccy
    Joining with the GOP Killed the Tea party
  • RevJim 2013/01/30 23:39:22
    Undecided
    RevJim
    Who cares?
  • Big Mike 2013/01/30 22:49:50
    No because...
    Big Mike
    The Republicans constantly arguing amongst themselves are whats causing the problems. If they would just show some sort of united front they would be in a much better position. For instance, if Santorum and Gingrich had just bowed out gracefully and immediately given their support to Romney, Romney might have won the election.

    However, I don't think the Tea Party is helping at all.
  • Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F 2013/01/30 22:10:59 (edited)
    No because...
    Aqua Surf BTO-t-BCRA-F
    +1
    It separated the patriots from the wimps in BOTH parties. The TEA Party will be that 3rd party that RINOS and Leftists have tried to keep down with lies and negative propaganda. We are the future.
  • Technotrucker_exposingthetruth 2013/01/30 21:25:52
    Undecided
    Technotrucker_exposingthetruth
    +4
    IF they did, then good riddance. I would like to say goodbye to the faux two party system entirely. How about a we the people party that actually controls the outcome of elections and legislation? Works for me!
  • Car1u5~PWCM~JLA 2013/01/30 19:29:46
    No because...
    Car1u5~PWCM~JLA
    I don't think so but i could easily be wrong.
  • CocaColaCandy 2013/01/30 19:23:09
    No because...
    CocaColaCandy
    +1
    I don't think the GOP is dead. Yet. The Tea Party has done immense damage, but while there are still voices of reason within the party there is hope for them.
  • Steve 2013/01/30 19:14:15
    No because...
    Steve
    +4
    They are destroying themselves by moving away from their base and abandoning their principles.
  • scurvison 2013/01/30 18:52:13
  • Lady Whitewolf 2013/01/30 18:17:13
    Yes because...
    Lady Whitewolf
    +3
    Mostly the republicans did it to themselves, but the Tea Party SURE helped it along!
  • sbtbill 2013/01/30 18:11:45
    Undecided
    sbtbill
    +2
    Not yet but the tea party is trying hard to bring back the Great Depression and destroy America as well as the Republican party. They have become fixated with the idea of a total crash being needed so we can rebuild.
  • JCD aka "biz" 2013/01/30 18:05:51
    Undecided
    JCD aka "biz"
    +1
    I read today David Brooks' column in the global edition of the NYT. He says basically that the more moderate Republicans should create their own "second GOP" in the Northeast, the mid-Atlantic states, in the upper Midwest, and along the West Coast. I believe that Gov. Christie could be their leader.
  • sjalan 2013/01/30 17:55:00
    Yes because...
    sjalan
    +3
    Simply put the New American Fascist Party aka the Republican/Tea Party does not will never truly represent the greater good of the American Citizens. They have seen through this and will not be fooled again.

    Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and Faux Newz are simply the propaganda arm of the New American Fascist Party and they are making HUGE money off the whole nation It is said that Glenn Beck is worth about $300 million now and Limbaugh is approaching a Billon.

    They are laughing all the way to the bank at the expense of the American Pubic.
  • festered sjalan 2013/01/30 18:30:43 (edited)
  • sjalan festered 2013/01/30 18:42:13
    sjalan
    They are looking to kill off the what was the very strong middle class and make them into brainwashed puppets like the Rabid Radical Religious Reich of Christendom has done to their flocks.
  • scurvison festered 2013/01/30 18:55:31
  • frank 2013/01/30 17:46:39
    No because...
    frank
    +2
    The GOP needed no help getting away from the basics that made them. The Tea Party is just an excuse for their downfall.
  • Butch 2013/01/30 17:40:44
  • Katfish 2013/01/30 17:10:59
    No because...
    Katfish
    +5
    The GOP is killing itself.
    The Tea Party was dramatically downgraded by the infiltration by the GOP.
  • ally 2013/01/30 16:47:12
    Yes because...
    ally
    +4
    Divide baby divide.
    tea baggers divide GOP

    what s a republican  cartoons
  • safari 2013/01/30 16:37:52
    No because...
    safari
    +4
    Too bad I am not starving for propaganda. I'd be full after reading this.

    Dream on... and thanks for showing your hand.
  • jmc07806-PWCM-JLA 2013/01/30 16:17:39
    No because...
    jmc07806-PWCM-JLA
    +3
    The GOP needs to listen more to the Tea Party.
  • gbudavid 2013/01/30 15:52:48
    No because...
    gbudavid
    +2
    It was suicide
  • Cliff 2013/01/30 15:33:54
    No because...
    Cliff
    +6
    The GOP is killing itself by abandoning conservatism and trying to be more liberal. That's like giving F-16 fighters to Egypt so they will like us more. If the GOP places its head on the chopping block, liberals will be more than happy to accommodate them.
  • S and S 2013/01/30 15:07:15
  • scurvison S and S 2013/01/30 18:58:13
  • marcuss LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS 2013/01/30 14:46:41
  • Rebel Yell 2013/01/30 14:45:36
    Yes because...
    Rebel Yell
    +8
    The “Grumpy Old-White-Man’s Party” had little appeal to individuals outside of its traditional coalition. Along came the American Taliban Tea Party to really tighten the noose.

    A major mistake made by the Republican Party has been its embrace of corporatism through tax favors, regulatory favors, direct subsidies, and other mechanisms to garner a government assisted hand-up for particular companies and industries. Corporate America easily buys a Republican congressman; they come cheap. Remember how they coddled BP at the hearing after it trashed the Gulf waters ? It was an obvious romance in full bloom.

    Then there is the hypocritical howling about spending... spending on wars they started and supported. For 8 years they embraced a willingness to support a radical non-American foreign policy of American aggression and intervention overseas. In their eyes, nations are subject to attack if they gain the power to build their own defense, even though they display no willingness to use it. This belief is called "naked aggression". Iraq has a huge arsenal of WMDs... let's shock and awe that sucker !

    The GOP is in crisis mode. Then, to rub salt in the wounds, Pres. Obama puts immigration on the table, knowing Republicans will have to cave or accept they will lose in 2014 and 2016. Pres. Obama got 71 % of the Hispanic vote. He has an abundance of political capitol.
  • Angelatxpatriot 2013/01/30 14:40:36
    No because...
    Angelatxpatriot
    +5
    The GOP infiltrated and destroyed the TEA party.
  • Katfish Angelat... 2013/01/30 16:53:24
    Katfish
    +3
    Best answer!!
  • ruralntex 2013/01/30 14:32:31
    No because...
    ruralntex
    +4
    The demise of the GOP or the TEA party have been greatly exagerated. The GOP has become a populist party in order to mimic some of the "successes" of the Dems. The TEA party is a group of every day people that see that Washington and the Washington way are the problem. You will know these folks because they are gonna be the ones that are prepared for the big DC fart to hit America. Don't ruffle their feathers, you may need something from one of these folks one day.
  • Bastion 2013/01/30 14:31:07
    Undecided
    Bastion
    +4
    Weeeeell, it's not dead yet.

    But it was coughin' up blood last night . . . .


  • Wake The Sheeple 2013/01/30 14:21:19
    No because...
    Wake The Sheeple
    +7
    The Republicrat party killed itself, it abandoned liberty, small government principles, non-interventionism, and sound money.

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