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Did the decay of the nation's morality become deeper with this last election?

☆ElenaDiamond☆ 2012/11/11 19:58:39
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  • Lordphoton999 *AFCL* 2012/11/11 21:17:02
    Yes sadly
    Lordphoton999 *AFCL*
    +22
    Our Morality comes from God.
    The party that won wanted God out of their party's platform, it speaks loudly where we stand as a nation.

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  • Red Branch 2013/03/31 21:51:48
    Yes sadly
    Red Branch
    Yes, 'nuff said.
  • Tom Dundee 2013/03/02 19:13:23
    Yes sadly
    Tom Dundee
    +1
    It did and 'God Bless America'.
  • Mj PINKYFINGERDOWN 2012/12/19 23:52:54
  • ehrhornp 2012/11/14 16:37:54
    Who cares if people are immoral?
    ehrhornp
    Love your options. lol Choice should be No the nation's morality has improved with this last election. If Mitt had gotten in, socialism for the rich would have happened and the economy would soon be crashed.

    Do you actually think the US is the only nation God would bless?
  • ProudProgressive 2012/11/13 20:47:13
    God bless America
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    While the election of Mitt Romney would have spelled the end of anything remotely resembling a moral and ethical society in this country, the fact that the forces of good wound up winning means that morality still survives. Aside from the President's victory in the face of the most unethical and downright ugly attacks any politician ever had to face, the American people also threw out some of the most immoral members of Congress ever, like the traitor Allen West and rape advocates Todd Akin and Richard Murdock. Sadly, Michelle Bachmann and John Boehner are still there, and Mitch McConnell wasn't even up for re-election, but they should be gone with the 2014 midterms.
  • Patriot747 ProudPr... 2012/11/14 21:45:03 (edited)
    Patriot747
    +2
    It happened to my family in Germany, it will happen again here. The government must rely on principles of GOD and nature, as it says in the declaration of independence. Otherwise you will live the design and will of Tyrants, Opression and the like. There is just no other way to live. Historically this the TRUTH!!!

    The USA is under Judgement and will soon perish by rejecting the very Nature of GODS ways and principles. This is why states want to secede.
  • ProudPr... Patriot747 2012/11/14 22:05:45
    ProudProgressive
    +4
    The states don't want to secede. A small group of disgruntled Republicans still smarting over the whipping they took in the elections have decided that they would rather leave the country then put up with a government that actually works to keep the poor from starving to death and that keeps the elderly from dying prematurely from a lack of health care and that ends wars instead of starting them. We are much stronger as a nation without them.
  • E. Norma Stits 2012/11/13 19:56:51
    Yes sadly
    E. Norma Stits
    +5
    Our children will be forced into homosexual acceptance internment camps.
  • hippycat E. Norm... 2012/11/13 22:42:25
    hippycat
    +2
    are you joking or did you escape from a mental institution?
  • E. Norm... hippycat 2012/11/13 23:18:50
    E. Norma Stits
    +3
    That would be niether...
  • ProudPr... hippycat 2012/11/14 22:06:51
    ProudProgressive
    +3
    Apparently the guys in the white suits haven't caught up with this joker with a very tasteless screen name.
  • whitewulf--the unruly mobster 2012/11/13 15:36:58
  • Quazimoto 2012/11/13 14:30:16
    Yes sadly
    Quazimoto
    +3
    Without a doubt.
  • jack_kazim 2012/11/13 08:09:33
    No. I am blind and continue to deny the truth.
    jack_kazim
  • Dan der Mensch 2012/11/13 04:56:36
    Yes sadly
    Dan der Mensch
    +1
    Or at least it was brought to light with the election. Stage IV - we're on our way now.
  • eyes wide open 2012/11/13 03:14:58
    Yes sadly
    eyes wide open
    +2
    daily ....
  • Lerro DeHazel 2012/11/13 02:36:49
    Yes sadly
    Lerro DeHazel
    +1
    BTW, what is a "Single Woman Obama Abortion?" . . .
  • MR. 2012/11/13 02:33:52 (edited)
    Yes sadly
    MR.
    +3
    *WE'VE GONE FROM "MT. EVEREST", MORALLY 60 YEARS AGO, TO "DEATH VALLEY",... IN THIS "NEW MILLENIUM?" *(AND THAT AIN'T GOOD, AMERICA!)
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/11/12 23:52:53
    Yes sadly
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Depraved.
  • Mary Mary Flash,a... 2012/11/13 00:18:11
    Mary Mary
    THESE PEOPLE ARE DEPRAVED
    Australian Prime Minister
    Gillard launches royal commission into child abuse
    By Simon Cullen and staff

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced the creation of a national royal commission into institutional responses to instances of child sexual abuse.

    The decision was taken at a meeting of federal cabinet this afternoon.

    Ms Gillard had been under pressure to act following growing calls for a national inquiry into explosive allegations by a senior New South Wales police investigator that the Catholic Church covered up evidence involving paedophile priests.

    A number of senior Labor MPs, as well as key independents, had already voiced their support for action on a national scale.

    Opposition Leader Tony Abbott also declared his support for a "wide-ranging" royal commission into child sex abuse but said it should not just focus on claims involving the Catholic Church.

    Ms Gillard said the Government would take the coming weeks to consult stakeholders before announcing the terms of reference.

    The Prime Minister said the commission would look at all religious organisations, state care providers, not-for-profit bodies as well as the responses of child service agencies and the police.

    "The allegations that have come to light recently about child sexual abuse have bee...












































































































    THESE PEOPLE ARE DEPRAVED
    Australian Prime Minister
    Gillard launches royal commission into child abuse
    By Simon Cullen and staff

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard has announced the creation of a national royal commission into institutional responses to instances of child sexual abuse.

    The decision was taken at a meeting of federal cabinet this afternoon.

    Ms Gillard had been under pressure to act following growing calls for a national inquiry into explosive allegations by a senior New South Wales police investigator that the Catholic Church covered up evidence involving paedophile priests.

    A number of senior Labor MPs, as well as key independents, had already voiced their support for action on a national scale.

    Opposition Leader Tony Abbott also declared his support for a "wide-ranging" royal commission into child sex abuse but said it should not just focus on claims involving the Catholic Church.

    Ms Gillard said the Government would take the coming weeks to consult stakeholders before announcing the terms of reference.

    The Prime Minister said the commission would look at all religious organisations, state care providers, not-for-profit bodies as well as the responses of child service agencies and the police.

    "The allegations that have come to light recently about child sexual abuse have been heartbreaking," Ms Gillard told reporters in Canberra.

    There have been too many revelations of adults who have averted their eyes from this evil.

    Prime Minister Julia Gillard
    "These are insidious, evil acts to which no child should be subject.

    "Australians know... that too many children have suffered child abuse, but have also seen other adults let them down - they've not only had their trust betrayed by the abuser but other adults who could have acted to assist them have failed to do so.

    "There have been too many revelations of adults who have averted their eyes from this evil.

    "I believe in these circumstances that it's appropriate for there to be a national response through a royal commission."

    Ms Gillard said she would speak with relevant premiers and chief ministers in the coming days to discuss how the royal commission would relate to any similar inquiries proposed or underway.

    "Discussions will also take place with victims' groups, religious leaders and community organisations," she said.

    "Further announcements, including the proposed commissioner and detailed terms of reference, will be made in coming weeks.

    "I commend the victims involved for having the courage to speak out.

    "I believe we must do everything we can to make sure that what has happened in the past is never allowed to happen again."


    Pell welcomes inquiry

    Catholic Archbishop of Sydney Cardinal George Pell has welcomed the announcement of a royal commission, saying the church will cooperate fully.

    "Public opinion remains unconvinced that the Catholic Church has dealt adequately with sexual abuse," he said in a statement.

    "Ongoing and at times one-sided media coverage has deepened this uncertainty.

    "This is one of the reasons for my support for this royal commission.

    "I welcome the Prime Minister’s announcement. I believe the air should be cleared and the truth uncovered."

    The investigator whose allegations sparked calls for a national inquiry, Detective Chief Inspector Peter Fox, has told the ABC's triple j that the royal commission was what he had been pushing for.

    He said he was stunned it had happened so quickly.

    "And delighted, absolutely delighted, for all those victims out there because this gives us so much of an opportunity to get things right, to look at recommendations for laws that should be changed to protect kids," he said.

    The NSW Government has set up an inquiry in response to the claims raised by Detective Chief Inspector Fox. A separate parliamentary inquiry into church sex abuse is already underway in Victoria.

    Chief Inspector Fox today said he was "saddened" by the narrowness of the inquiry set up by NSW Premier Barry O'Farrell in response to his concerns.

    "I'm not politically aligned to anyone, and I haven't always been a big fan of Julia Gillard personally, but my God she's had some guts this afternoon, a lot more guts than Barry O'Farrell," Inspector Fox said.

    "He was so disappointing and some, thank heavens, have stood up and done the right thing."

    'We need to do better'

    Acting Minister for Families, Brendan O'Connor, told the ABC's 7.30 program the Government wants to ensure a broad range of institutions be examined.

    "The child sex abuse offences, and indeed allegations of child sex abuse, are not confined to one church," he said.

    "They're not confined to one religious organisation.

    "Unfortunately, offences against children have occurred to children in state care and indeed, have occurred to children under the care in other religious organisations and of course also not-for-profit organisations.

    "It would be very unfair and quite cruel to confine the examination - or the commission's examination to one body."

    He added the royal commission decision was "a very significant one".

    "This Government is responding I think to the need to ensure that voices are heard by the victims and their families, that claims are properly investigated," he said.

    "This Government wants to provide this forum, this process, so that victims get an opportunity to tell their story, to have their story heard.

    "Beyond that I think as a government we want to ensure through this vehicle, the royal commission, that institutions that are caring for children are responding properly and adequately to those allegations that have been made.

    "Now what we know to date is that has not been the case. We need to do better.

    Coalition support

    Earlier this afternoon Mr Abbott pledged his support if the Government decided to establish a "wide-ranging" inquiry.

    "Wherever abuse has occurred it must be tackled and it must be tackled vigorously, openly and transparently," Mr Abbott said in a statement.

    "It's clear that for a long period there was insufficient awareness and insufficient vigilance when it came to predatory behaviour by people in positions of authority over children.

    "Any investigation must be wide-ranging, must consider any evidence of the abuse of children in Australia, and should not be limited to the examination of any one institution.

    "It must include all organisations, government and non-government, where there is evidence of sexual abuse."

    Several Labor MPs had publicly declared their support for a nationally constituted royal commission, with some pushing for terms of reference that would allow it to look beyond the immediate allegations involving the Catholic Church.

    Call for action

    Fellow Labor MP Joel Fitzgibbon, whose NSW electorate covers the Hunter Valley, earlier said it had become clear to him that a royal commission would be in the best interests of victims, their families and the church.

    "The victims and their families need and deserve an assurance that no crimes or serious breaches of trust and responsibility have gone unpunished and that action has been taken to ensure that no such crimes or breaches can occur in the future," he said in a statement.

    "It is clear that only the powers of a royal commission can adequately deliver those assurances.

    The Catholic Church will struggle to rebuild its reputation while ever questions about institutional wrongs are not properly tested.

    Joel Fitzgibbon
    "Further, the Catholic Church will struggle to rebuild its reputation while ever questions about institutional wrongs are not properly tested.

    "Worse, the church will remain subject to all kinds of allegations and innuendo unless a formal process is established, and all the church's ongoing good work will pass unnoticed and unappreciated until the allegations are properly dealt with."

    Earlier today, independent MP Tony Windsor said he had written to the Prime Minister urging her to take action to deal with the issue on a national scale.

    Fellow independent Rob Oakeshott also backed calls for a national royal commission, saying there needed to be an inquiry with coercive powers to get to the bottom of the problem.

    "No-one or no entity should be able to hide from the police in the gathering of evidence, particularly in an area that involves sexual abuse and children," Mr Oakeshott told ABC News Online.

    "If it's not a national royal commission with wide powers, it would certainly be something of an equivalent such as a special commission of inquiry."

    The Greens and independent senator Nick Xenophon have also publicly backed calls for a national royal commission into sexual abuse claims.
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  • Flash,a... Mary Mary 2012/11/13 00:36:11
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +1
    I do not support the CC nor any person that does these things,-and they are on the increase! Since religion for the most part is man made neither do I support their establishments. A person can be moral and God fearing and have nothing to do with religion. Didn't Jesus some 2,000 years ago set straight the religious establishment of His day? You have hypocrites in every walk of life.
  • Joanie 2012/11/12 23:04:06
    No. I am blind and continue to deny the truth.
    Joanie
    +7
    The morality of the country improved with the approval of same sex marriage in Maine, Maryland, and Washington! An America which affords all people equal rights is a more moral America! And . . . we went in the right direction with respect to equal opportunity for all and economic justice with the re-election of Barack Obama!
  • Patriot747 Joanie 2012/11/12 23:29:30
    Patriot747
    +3
    Morality, as approved by you? define morality, good and bad? where did the word morality come from? Who ordained it?

    Your socially engineered and programmed!!
  • Joanie Patriot747 2012/11/12 23:32:24
    Joanie
    +7
    It is immoral to treat certain people as second class citizens based on their sexual orientation, race, color, religion, etc. So America's morality was improved with the recognition of same sex marriages in three states and with the election of Barack Obama who stands for leveling the playing field so that all people have equal opportunity.
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/12 23:55:21
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Reminds me of the election in Sodom during their heyday of new found freedoms.....
  • Joanie Flash,a... 2012/11/12 23:58:57 (edited)
    Joanie
    +4
    The evil that was condemned in the Bible story about Sodom was rape--not gay marriage! You doofus! The Bible doesn't even discuss gay marriage!
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/13 00:40:50
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    Lot had 2 angelic messengers come to his home and the men of the city demanded that they turn them over to the crowd so they could rape them thinking they were men. What act is that called? The Bible states that men lying with men in leiu of women is an abomination and carries the death penalty. Did you ever read the Bible in its entirety for yourself?
  • Joanie Flash,a... 2012/11/13 00:44:36
    Joanie
    +2
    The act described in the Sodom story is called rape. Sodom was destroyed because the men of the town raped visitors to the town, not because two citizens of Sodom entered into a loving committed same sex marriage. Get real! Have you read the Bible?
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/13 00:56:34
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    I've read and studied it near 40 years. You do not know or understand the scriptures and homosexual "marriage" is sin and abomonation not "love".
    Rape or 'marriage' between two of the same sex is depraved simple to comprehend.
  • Joanie Flash,a... 2012/11/13 01:01:42
    Joanie
    +1
    Do you think rape is the same as marriage?
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/13 01:07:50
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    Why you playing with semantics? Homosexuality cannot be viewed as marriage morally.
  • Joanie Flash,a... 2012/11/13 01:16:08
    Joanie
    +3
    Sir, I am not the one playing with words to suit my positions. You are. You take a story which (quite rightly) condemns rape, and then you say it means that there should be no marriage!
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/13 12:04:45
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    You have to put all scripture together to get a complete understanding on a subject;-
    Gen.18:16,19:29;1Tim.1:10;1Co...
    Sexual rules of conduct explained; Lev.18:6-23,20:10-21
    These people of Sodom&Gomorrah were doing more than raping people but were involved in every imagined depravity. They were practicing homosexuals whether the act be consenual or by force it is still abomination and for which they were destroyed. You seem to indicated that if they call their acts a marriage it is now ok.
  • Joanie Flash,a... 2012/11/13 13:21:16
    Joanie
    +1
    With all due respect, you are nuts!
  • Flash,a... Joanie 2012/11/13 15:23:33
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +2
    We shall see who is nuts. Go and buy some Ben&Jerry's 'Hubby-Hubby' flavor ice cream.
  • ProudPr... Joanie 2012/11/13 20:51:23
    ProudProgressive
    I truly admire your patience with someone whose mind is so closed. I doubt this one has ever even read the bible. Probably gets his religious training from Sean Hannity LOL.
  • Joanie ProudPr... 2012/11/14 14:15:44
    Joanie
    +1
    Well, thank you, ProudProgressive!
  • Patriot747 Joanie 2012/11/13 16:52:11 (edited)
    Patriot747
    +3
    Since you people are going to out law the bible, you better read Romans chapter 1, 2 and the scriptures below; Genesis 19:5

    GOD does NOT CHANGE HE IS THE SAME YESTERDAY AND FOREVER! WE AS MEN CHANGE AND DECAY SPIRITUALLY LEAVING GOD!!!

    GOD destroyed sodom and Gomorrah, this is why, read Genesis 19:5. It seems we a similiar situation today, but we will be destroyed by fire!!!! ( Nukes ).

    Then all the men of the city surrounded Lot's house and said, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them." (Genesis 19:5, NIV) By ancient custom, the visitors were under Lot's protection. Lot was so infected by the wickedness of Sodom that he offered the homosexuals his two virgin daughters instead. Furious, the mob rushed up to break down the door.
  • Joanie Patriot747 2012/11/13 20:24:10
    Joanie
    Uh, I never said I was going to outlaw the Bible. I have read Genesis straight through many times.
  • Patriot747 Joanie 2012/11/13 20:42:21
    Patriot747
    +3
    Well, thank you, your the only Liberal, I have spoken to that at least respects others as I do to you, even though I have had my Church closed from a law suit, per G&L rights activists. I am glad you have read the Bible. We live in end times and live is very short!!
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