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Did President Obama lie when he said time and again that Obama Care was not a tax?? The Supreme Court has declared Obama Care a tax, humm now what President OBAMA ??

hazel 2012/06/29 02:12:19
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Surpreme Court Justice ROBERTS has done the American people a favor, President Obama has repeatedly said that Obama Care is not a tax, today the SUPREME court declred it as a tax....Obama lied to us all and we eed to show him how mad we are in NOVEMBER
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  • tblackb Rodney 2012/07/02 03:46:07
    tblackb
    i work for the state
  • Rodney tblackb 2012/07/02 04:09:02
    Rodney
    And in a Right-To-Work State. Gov Haley should be able to get your state out of danger so you can keep your job. Be happy you aren't in some of the long time liberal run states where their debt is huge and they will have to make serious cuts to state personnel.
  • tblackb Rodney 2012/07/02 04:23:44
    tblackb
    right to work laws suck...i'd much rather work somewhere unionized
  • Rodney tblackb 2012/07/02 04:44:45
    Rodney
    +1
    Idaho has been a right-to-work state since 1985 and we are doing great. We are almost always running with a surplus, our educational ranking is 29th and our unemployment is at 7.8% which is awfully high for us.
  • zapped tblackb 2012/06/30 22:52:41
    zapped
    another source ...and you dont like being shown your wrong DO YA ?

    www.theatlantic.com/politics/...
    "The Health-Care Mandate Is Clearly a Tax""—and Therefore Constitutional ... Chief Justice Roberts, and especially Justice ... What Analysts Are Saying: Roberts to …
  • MIZ® ₱... zapped 2012/06/29 07:52:29
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +4
    They think they have to pass bills to find out what's in them...
  • zapped MIZ® ₱... 2012/06/30 04:02:33
    zapped
    +1
    thats what obama told & insisted they do ...and pelosi / reid dememded they vote & sign the bill ..and obama threatened none would go home till it was passed ...

    wow I wouldnt sign an contract before I read it ...and these folks are attorneys !

    my niece is a deputy D .A in idaho (federal court prosecution ) and she has been skeptical of the H/C reform and said holder & obama need to be tried for treason ...!
  • zapped MIZ® ₱... 2012/06/30 22:37:54
    zapped
    +1
    yeah ,,isnt that ironic ...or moronic only 2 letters difference in those ,,,but with the govt means the same circumstances ..!
  • SunShine tblackb 2012/06/29 05:41:29
    SunShine
    +4
    if it was not a tax, then the scotus would have said it was unconstitutional and struck it down..
  • tblackb SunShine 2012/06/29 05:45:42 (edited)
    tblackb
    if its a tax, what is the collection method 4 the tax?
  • Getting... tblackb 2012/06/29 12:44:44
    GettingBarried
    collection methods are not something the SCOTUS would involve itself with nor does a collection method define taxation.
  • tblackb Getting... 2012/06/29 15:15:57
    tblackb
    a tax by definition is something u pay. we pay income tax, property tax, sales tax, etc. thus, how do u pay it and who collects the tax?
  • Getting... tblackb 2012/06/29 18:18:07
    GettingBarried
    I'm not sure why you're fixated on how a tax is collected. That it exists should be cause for concern by itself. You get a tax bill, you pay it.
  • tblackb Getting... 2012/06/29 21:15:13
    tblackb
    +1
    its just another program. how is it any different from all the other things that r politicians waste taxpayer dollars on? y r u not upset with things like:

    10 wastes of money

    Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona (you may have heard of him) picks the worst of the 9,000 earmarks in the Omnibus What The Heck, Let's Burn Another $410 Billion Bill.

    Yes, he's a RINO most of the time.

    But he's never done an earmark.

    So give the old guy his due.

    McCain's posted the 10 worst earmarks, via Twitter, with his words in italics:

    #1. $1.7 million for pig odor research in Iowa

    #2. $2 million "for the promotion of astronomy" in Hawaii - because nothing says new jobs for average Americans like investing in astronomy

    #3. $332,000 for the design and construction of a school sidewalk in Franklin, Texas - not enough $ for schools in the stimulus?

    #4. $2.1 million for the Center for Grape Genetics in New York - quick peel me a grape.

    #5. $650,000 for beaver management in North Carolina and Mississippi (how do you manage a beaver?)

    #6. $1 million for mormon cricket control in Utah - is that the species of cricket or a game played by the brits?

    #7. $300,000 for the Montana World Trade Center - enough said

    #8. $200,000 "tattoo removal violence outreach program to could help gang members or others shed visible sign...





    its just another program. how is it any different from all the other things that r politicians waste taxpayer dollars on? y r u not upset with things like:

    10 wastes of money

    Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona (you may have heard of him) picks the worst of the 9,000 earmarks in the Omnibus What The Heck, Let's Burn Another $410 Billion Bill.

    Yes, he's a RINO most of the time.

    But he's never done an earmark.

    So give the old guy his due.

    McCain's posted the 10 worst earmarks, via Twitter, with his words in italics:

    #1. $1.7 million for pig odor research in Iowa

    #2. $2 million "for the promotion of astronomy" in Hawaii - because nothing says new jobs for average Americans like investing in astronomy

    #3. $332,000 for the design and construction of a school sidewalk in Franklin, Texas - not enough $ for schools in the stimulus?

    #4. $2.1 million for the Center for Grape Genetics in New York - quick peel me a grape.

    #5. $650,000 for beaver management in North Carolina and Mississippi (how do you manage a beaver?)

    #6. $1 million for mormon cricket control in Utah - is that the species of cricket or a game played by the brits?

    #7. $300,000 for the Montana World Trade Center - enough said

    #8. $200,000 "tattoo removal violence outreach program to could help gang members or others shed visible signs of their past" REALLY?

    #9. $475,000 to build a parking garage in Provo City, Utah

    #10. $1.7M "for a honey bee factory" in Weslaco, TX

    can't pick and choose....
    (more)
  • Getting... tblackb 2012/06/29 21:36:39
    GettingBarried
    That's a humdinger of a list of waste. The government picks and chooses all the time, as you point out. As to McCain, I'll pass on giving him his due. He's bought and paid for by local corporations. Don't be fooled. It just seemed to me that you were worrying about how taxes are collected rather than why they exist. I see I was picking nits is all.
  • SunShine tblackb 2012/07/01 05:53:53
    SunShine
    that is the problem.. there are many millions who don't pay income tax so collecting is not going to be so simple..
  • Linda hazel 2012/06/29 13:09:56
    Linda
    your post is fake. Do you spend all day think of this fake questions?
  • zapped tblackb 2012/06/29 05:32:18
    zapped
    +3
    have you read & interpreted the entire bill ?

    not many have even read it !
  • tblackb zapped 2012/07/02 04:46:39 (edited)
    tblackb



    "penalty" for not buying health insurance!!!! they say video doesn't lie. if its a tax increase like all of you fine people have been calling it the past few days, why doesn't the speaker of the house correct mrs. o'donnell? she only called it a penalty 4 times in 75 seconds!
  • zapped tblackb 2012/07/02 04:52:09
    zapped
    read the opinion again .. yes you are
  • tblackb zapped 2012/07/02 14:50:50
  • zapped tblackb 2012/07/02 16:15:53
    zapped
    the link was no good ..
  • tblackb zapped 2012/07/02 17:19:20
    tblackb
    its good, just takes awhile to begin playing
  • zapped tblackb 2012/07/02 18:24:53 (edited)
    zapped
    +1
    you just dont get it ...... you are a troll ,admit it ..mentality of a rock !

    http://images.sodahead.com/pr...
  • SunShine tblackb 2012/06/29 05:40:33
    SunShine
    +5
    go talk to the scotus.. they say it is.
  • tblackb SunShine 2012/06/29 05:42:20 (edited)
    tblackb
    o yeah, just because scotus says so it has 2 b true just like fox news; right? but wait they were originally reporting that the court overturned the law, hmmmm....
  • MIZ® ₱... tblackb 2012/06/29 07:53:36
    MIZ®  ₱д₸Ɽ¡Ö₸ ₩дⱤⱤ¡ÖⱤ   †
    +2
    uhhh I thought that was CNN who did that?
  • tblackb MIZ® ₱... 2012/06/29 15:18:42
    tblackb
    both cnn and fox did it...msnbc is the only major new outlet to get it right the 1st time.
  • zapped SunShine 2012/07/02 04:50:43
    zapped
    this is a case of extreme programming ....!
  • Linda tblackb 2012/06/29 13:08:34 (edited)
    Linda
    This question is a big lie. They love to spread it thick, but people aren't going for it. Your post is all correct.
  • tblackb Linda 2012/06/29 15:21:21
    tblackb
    +1
    yep, its a play on words. it really doesn't matter what 1 chooses to call it; it is what it is...the rest is little more than banter
  • warkitten tblackb 2012/06/29 16:04:08
    warkitten
    Ok...1. The law impacts people employed by companies that already provide good healthcare because now the business has to pay a tax for not providing government programs...even if they already offer benefits for their workers...2. At their job they have the option of turning down their employers ins. plan but what's the point if I'm just gonna get taxed if I don't go on the Obama plan? Whatever plan that is BTW....do they know what they are going to provide and how? Nope its all about just getting that dough and control in their mitts..then they'll just go with it...3. No one has the right to take away choices I make about my health....that is my decision...4. I have a job where no insurance is provided...its a part time job...and I'm fine with not having it provided to me by my employer or the government. I pay for it myself and that's how I choose to live my life... I don't need to be rushed to a hospital if I'm ever injured and they put me in the government run hands of the doctors who will be doing as little as possible to help me because we have over crowded hospitals and government run clinics which will be under staffed with under paid...government bred doctors....
  • Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥ 2012/06/29 02:54:52
    President Obama lied to us when he said OBAMA CARE was not a tax
    Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥
    +13
    He always lie. What else is new. He fooled the people again..
  • Scalded... Pearlie... 2012/06/29 22:01:47
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    Right, Pearlie! He just fooled the fools, hense the name. Do you have to be a fool to be a libtard, no but most are.
  • Pearlie... Scalded... 2012/07/01 05:48:49
    Pearlie Momi♥Patriot Warrior♥
    Right on...
    We are not fools., Mama didn't raise any fools...LOL
  • V~POTL~PWCM~JLA 2012/06/29 02:48:35
    President Obama lied to us when he said OBAMA CARE was not a tax
    V~POTL~PWCM~JLA
    +9
    I can hardly wait to see the attack ads.
  • Conservative Citizen 2012/06/29 02:44:19
    President Obama lied to us when he said OBAMA CARE was not a tax
    Conservative Citizen
    +13
    Don't believe he has ever been truthful with the American people about a damn thing.
  • Scalded... Conserv... 2012/06/29 22:03:14
    Scalded Eagle
    +1
    Nope, the truth has zero value to him.
  • Yuffie ♫ K-POP Dance Guru 2012/06/29 02:38:47
    President Obama lied to us when he said OBAMA CARE was not a tax
    Yuffie ♫ K-POP Dance Guru
  • Heffeweizen 2012/06/29 02:38:05
    President Obama lied to us when he said OBAMA CARE was not a tax
    Heffeweizen
    +12
    Of course he lied, the only time he tells the truth is when it's by accident. This, I think, will be a blessing in disguise. The President is now stuck with a hugely unpopular law that has now been defined as a tax when he said no new taxes. It should now be referred to as "Obamatax." From what I hear, Romney's donations are skyrocketing and the Conservative base is coming together.

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