Did President Obama lie when he said time and again that Obama Care was not a tax?? The Supreme Court has declared Obama Care a tax, humm now what President OBAMA ??

In actual fact,, NO.. I DON'T think that obama LIED when he made this claim..

I am among those who find the redefinition of the word Tax by this Supreme Court ruling both shocking and ill concieved.. EVEN the DEMOCRATS were prepared to take a hit here.. To have,, if NOT the whole thng,, at least PARTS of Obamacare struck down..
THIS ruling is as much a shock to them as it is to everyone else..INCLUDING Obama..

A TAX is defined as a Revenue Generating policy levied upon the population by the Government and IS,, as such,, COnstitutional..

THIS is a PENALTY we're talking about.. It's purpose isn't to generate revenues.. It's a punitive action against NON compliance.. It is the FIRST "tax" in History that you are legally REQUIRED to avoid paying..

I don't know what happened with Roberts.. This ruling simply does not make any sense at all.. The Court SIDESTEPPED the REAL issue of the Constitutionailty of the Mandate and rendered an opinion on the PENALTY which was NOT the central issue that prompted the case in the FIRST place..

When one reads the dessent it is CLEAR that the Conservative members of the COurt were prepared to strike down Obamacare in it's entirety and Roberts switched sides at the last moment..

The Comments of the President and HIGH ranking members of the Democrat Party COULD be interpretated as threats.. I'm hearing all kinds of excuses as to WHY Roberts decided to Switch Sides but NONE of them make any sense at all.. SOMETHING Happened here and it is doubtful that we'll EVER find out what it was..

Yeah.. SOMETHING isn't quite right in the hallowed halls of the Judiciary these days.. The LAST Bastion of Sanity in this Government has Joined the Fast and Furious debacle and the Intelligance Leaks from the WHite house to undermine the confidence of the American People in their Government..

ALL the more reason for WE Americans to take the necessary steps come Nvember and CONTINUE the efforts we started in 2010.. We made HISTORY that year and it will FOREVER go down as such.. THIS November we need to make the FUTURE..

I have to apologize for my incomplete and therefore wrong answer above.. I had answered the question with specific respect to the Supreme Court’s redefinition of a tax..

The FACT is that YES.. Obama and the Democrats DID Lie about Obamacare and taxes and the LIST of taxes was well known even before this case went to the Supreme Court..

FIRST,, we have the;

Individual Mandate Excise Tax.. THIS has ALWAYS been a tax and should NOT be confused with the now defined Penalty Tax..
We have the Surtax on Investment Income

We have a Hike in Medicare Payroll Tax

And the Medicine Cabinet Tax

And the HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike($1.4 bil/Jan 2011): Increases additional tax on non-medical early withdrawals from an HSA from 10 to 20 percent, disadvantaging them relative to IRAs and other tax-advantaged accounts, which remain at 10 percent.

Flexible Spending Account Cap – aka“Special Needs Kids Tax”($13 bil/Jan 2013): Imposes cap of $2500 (Indexed to inflation after 2013) on FSAs (now unlimited). . There is one group of FSA owners for whom this new cap will be particularly cruel and onerous: parents of special needs children. There are thousands of families with special needs children in the United States, and many of them use FSAs to pay for special needs education. Tuition rates at one leading school that teaches special needs children in Washington, D.C. (National Child Research Center) can easily exceed $14,000 per year. Under tax rules, FSA dollars can be used to pay for this type of special needs education.

Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers($20 bil/Jan 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exemptions include items retailing for less than $100.

Raise "Haircut" for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI($15.2 bil/Jan 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI; it is waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.

Tax on Indoor Tanning Services($2.7 billion/July 1, 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons

Elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D($4.5 bil/Jan 2013)

Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike($0.4 bil/Jan 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services

Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals(Min$/immediate): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new "community health assessment needs," "financial assistance," and "billing and collection" rules set by HHS

Tax on Innovator Drug Companies($22.2 bil/Jan 2010): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year.

Tax on Health Insurers($60.1 bil/Jan 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year. The stipulation phases in gradually until 2018, and is fully-imposed on firms with $50 million in profits.

$500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives($0.6 bil/Jan 2013)

Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2(Min$/Jan 2011): Preamble to taxing health benefits on individual tax returns.

Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting($17.1 bil/Jan 2012): Requires businesses to send 1099-MISC information tax forms to corporations (currently limited to individuals), a huge compliance burden for small employers

“Black liquor” tax hike(Tax hike of $23.6 billion). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel.

Codification of the “economic substance doctrine”(Tax hike of $4.5 billion). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed.


So yes.. EVEN if this case had NEVER seen the inside of a courtroom..

Obama LIED about this when he declared,, over and over and over again that Obamacare would raise taxes not ONE dime and IF the American People had been told the TRUTH about this by a MEDIA industry that could send THOUSANDS of reporters to pour through Sarah Pal9iin's E-mails,,

Not EVEN the ONE PARTY RULE of Obama's first two years would have sold this to ANYONE in America..