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  • Jen 2012/06/24 23:41:15
    No, he didn't.
    Jen
    +16
    I'm tired of hearing about what Obama "inherited."

    To "inherit" something means to receive something without asking for it. When a parent or other relative dies, for example, we may inherit some or all of their money or property.

    Obama "inherited" nothing. He wanted to be President. He campaigned for the job for the job. His campaign spent millions and millions of dollars in his effort to be elected.

    He went out there and ask the American people to vote for him. That is not the definition of "inheriting," folks!

    Obama didn't "inherit" his job any more than you inherited yours. (If you're one of the lucky ones who has a job, that is.) He "applied" for his job, just as you applied for yours.

    If what he "inherited" was too much for him to handle, then he shouldn't have taken the job. No one forced him to be President!

    And most of all, he campaigned to be President by promising us big, big things. He was going to get the economy going again. There was going to be all this Hope and Change.

    His job performance has fallen far, far short of what he promised. We're well into the fourth year of his presidency -- at this point in time, things should be much, much better than they really are.

    And none of this "Republican obstructionist" crap, either. Obam...

    I'm tired of hearing about what Obama "inherited."

    To "inherit" something means to receive something without asking for it. When a parent or other relative dies, for example, we may inherit some or all of their money or property.

    Obama "inherited" nothing. He wanted to be President. He campaigned for the job for the job. His campaign spent millions and millions of dollars in his effort to be elected.

    He went out there and ask the American people to vote for him. That is not the definition of "inheriting," folks!

    Obama didn't "inherit" his job any more than you inherited yours. (If you're one of the lucky ones who has a job, that is.) He "applied" for his job, just as you applied for yours.

    If what he "inherited" was too much for him to handle, then he shouldn't have taken the job. No one forced him to be President!

    And most of all, he campaigned to be President by promising us big, big things. He was going to get the economy going again. There was going to be all this Hope and Change.

    His job performance has fallen far, far short of what he promised. We're well into the fourth year of his presidency -- at this point in time, things should be much, much better than they really are.

    And none of this "Republican obstructionist" crap, either. Obama got the "stimulus bill" passed. He got "ObamaCare" passed. Those were his two main signature items upon entering office.

    He hasn't been a failure due to any "Republican obstructionism." He's been a failure because his policies and ideology are fatally flawed.
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  • fixer 2012/08/15 05:12:16
    Yes, he did.
    fixer
    Anybody else ever notice that contards are always wrong? Or is it just these same stupid lies they believe every time they get them forwarded to them.

    Did Obama Inherit a trainwreck
  • Cat 1017 2012/06/28 20:27:14
    Yes, he did.
    Cat 1017
    +1
    Most definitely....and the obstructionist are making sure it doesn't get better on his watch...They would rather see the country go over the edge than to work and resolve the problem..They could find aways to improve things, but they don't want to take a chance the president may get credit for improvement...so they will allow the recession to continue...
  • adam.co... Cat 1017 2012/09/04 23:34:56
    adam.contreras.1972
    +3
    Umm No. Do you call someone trying to stop a rape an obstructionist? This comparison is just as ridiculous as your statement. To not agree with the left's attempts to raise taxes is not obstructionism. Take the first 2 years of his Presidency where he had control of the House and Congress. He was yelling obstructionism even then... BUT HOW? HE HAD CONTROL? He could have passed ANY LAW he wanted without ever letting the Repubics into chambers.. similar to how the Democrats in CA. are doing now.. except they have the cajones to not care what happens.. They don't point at the Repubics and cry obstructionism.. they see the cliff and they're pressing the gas pedal as hard as they can, completely ignoring the Repubics.. The Democrats could have EASILY have done the same.. But they didn't. It's so much easier to build up their zombie base that lack critical thinking skills. All willing to vote because they believe in hope and change.
  • Dana 2012/06/27 07:06:16
    No, he didn't.
    Dana
    +2
    Obama created his own mess. Be a man Obama and take responsibility for your crimes against America.

    David Limbaugh book
  • ThinkAboutIt! 2012/06/26 15:34:08
    (Other)
    ThinkAboutIt!
    +2
    I thought wanting to be president was because you felt there was some kind of mess and you wanted to fix it.
  • Bevos 2012/06/26 14:30:09
    No, he didn't.
    Bevos
    +1
    No more than Bush did. The Govt has been in a MESS for yrs., and getting worse. But it is in a LOT worse shape today than when Obama took over as Pres. He is either too DUMB to realize You have to CUT SPENDING if you want to balance a runaway budget, or his intention is to BANKRUPT America.!!!
  • Racefish 2012/06/26 14:10:34
    No, he didn't.
    Racefish
    +1
    He actually helped create it.
  • patriot88000 2012/06/26 02:35:07 (edited)
    No, he didn't.
    patriot88000
    OBAMA Inherited nothing, he spent the better part of a year applying for the job campaigning and making speeches and campaign promisses he knew he could not keep, yet he made those promisses anyway lying to the people he spoke to through his teeth. And the people who listened to him and greeted him with open arms and pocketbooks listened to his lies with smiles on their faces waiting for the world to experience peace, and prosperity because their great leader has spoken.
    Obama claimed he was going to "Fundamentally Transform the United States", unfortunately for the United States, Obama did not explain in depth how he was going to Fundimentally Transform the United States and what he was going to transform it into. Now we know what his plan is or was. His plan was to make the United States a failed 3rd world nation completely broke and totally dependant upon the government for everything Basically making the United States a Totalitarian Nation. This is not what the American people banked on,expected, or wanted.
  • Idiot repubs 2012/06/26 01:09:24
    Yes, he did.
    Idiot repubs
    +4
    Bush was give a country at peace with a budget surplus and record employment.

    He had it all turn to crap in 8 years.
  • BackWoo... Idiot r... 2012/06/26 02:48:31
    BackWoodsMike
    +2
    Fact is, there was no surplus from Clinton for Bush to squander.

    Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:



    As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit. Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

    Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending Se...



























    Fact is, there was no surplus from Clinton for Bush to squander.

    Verifying this is as simple as accessing the U.S. Treasury website where the national debt is updated daily and a history of the debt since January 1993 can be obtained. Considering the government's fiscal year ends on the last day of September each year, and considering Clinton's budget proposal in 1993 took effect in October 1993 and concluded September 1994 (FY1994), here's the national debt at the end of each year of Clinton Budgets:

    cltnnosurp

    As can clearly be seen, in no year did the national debt go down, nor did Clinton leave President Bush with a surplus that Bush subsequently turned into a deficit. Yes, the deficit was almost eliminated in FY2000 (ending in September 2000 with a deficit of "only" $17.9 billion), but it never reached zero--let alone a positive surplus number. And Clinton's last budget proposal for FY2001, which ended in September 2001, generated a $133.29 billion deficit. The growing deficits started in the year of the last Clinton budget, not in the first year of the Bush administration.

    Keep in mind that President Bush took office in January 2001 and his first budget took effect October 1, 2001 for the year ending September 30, 2002 (FY2002). So the $133.29 billion deficit in the year ending September 2001 was Clinton's. Granted, Bush supported a tax refund where taxpayers received checks in 2001. However, the total amount refunded to taxpayers was only $38 billion. So even if we assume that $38 billion of the FY2001 deficit was due to Bush's tax refunds which were not part of Clinton's last budget, that still means that Clinton's last budget produced a deficit of 133.29 - 38 = $95.29 billion.

    Clinton clearly did not achieve a surplus and he didn't leave President Bush with a surplus.

    On the other hand, we can dispel the myth of the Bush lousy economy, and point out the facts.

    Myth 1: The last eight Bush years were awful for most Americans economically and President Bush's deregulatory policies caused the current financial crisis.

    Reality:
    President Bush's time in office is ending as it began, with our economy under stress. The recession President Bush inherited as he entered office ran through the attacks of September 11, 2001, but during the recovery that followed, and due in no small part to the tax relief President Bush worked with Congress to provide, this country experienced its longest run of uninterrupted job growth - 52 straight months, with 8.3 million jobs created.

    This reflected six consecutive years of economic growth from the Fourth Quarter of 2001 until the Fourth Quarter of 2007. From 2000 to 2007, real GDP grew by more than 17 percent, a remarkable gain of nearly 2.1 trillion dollars. This growth was driven in part by increased labor productivity gains that have averaged 2.5 percent annually since 2001, a rate that exceeds the averages of the 1970s, '80s, and '90s. In the same period, real after-tax income per capita increased by more than 11 percent, and there was a 4.7 percent increase in the number of new businesses formed. The current economic challenges, which the President and his Administration have responded to aggressively, threaten to reverse some of these gains - but the gains cannot be denied.

    As for the current crisis, the President and his economic team have taken unprecedented actions to stabilize the financial sector and avert a collapse. While there are a number of causes of the housing and credit crises that are at the root of our current economic troubles, deregulation by the Bush Administration is simply not one of them. In fact, one of the circumstances that contributed to the crisis was the failure of the government sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which President Bush long tried to subject to greater regulation. In April 2001, three months after taking office, the President warned in his first budget that the size of the two GSEs were a "potential problem" that "could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity." In 2003, the Administration began calling for a new GSE regulator, and over the next five years, the Administration continued to call for GSE reform only to be accused by Democrats in Congress of creating artificial fears and advocating for ill-advised proposals. By the time Congress finally acted in 2008 to provide the oversight the President requested, it was too late to prevent systemic consequences. Had the Administration's initial reform proposals been adopted, some of today's turmoil in our financial markets may have been averted.

    Myth 2: President Bush's tax cuts only benefitted the wealthy and were paid for by sacrificing investments in health care and education.

    Reality:
    There are not 116 million "wealthy Americans," but that's how many taxpayers benefited from the President's tax relief. The across-the-board tax cuts provided tax relief to every American who pays income taxes, created a new bottom 10 percent bracket rate, doubled the child tax credit to $1,000, and actually increased the share of the Federal income tax burden paid by the top 10 percent of individual earners from 67 percent in 2000 to 70 percent in 2005. Furthermore, this Administration removed 13 million low-income earners from the income tax rolls completely.

    The economic growth spurred by tax relief also spurred growth in Federal tax receipts. In fact, the Federal Treasury realized the largest three-year increase of revenue in 26 years, and tax receipts grew more than $542 billion between 2000 and 2007. And yes, much of that money went to investments in health care and education.

    President Bush provided more than 40 million Americans with better access to prescription drugs by creating the market-based Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit. And it is one of the rare government programs that actually costs less than expected. Projected overall program spending between 2004 and 2013 is approximately $240 billion lower, nearly 38 percent, than originally estimated, thanks to the market-oriented principles included at President Bush's insistence.

    Despite the heated rhetoric over children's health insurance (S-CHIP) legislation last year, estimates from a 2007 Federal survey show that the number of uninsured children under the age of 18 actually declined by 800,000 from 2001 to 2007. From 2007 to 2008, the number of people covered by affordable and portable Health Savings Account-eligible plans increased 35 percent. Additionally, since President Bush took office, more than 1,200 community health centers have opened or expanded nationwide, which has helped provide treatment to nearly 17 million people.

    Federal spending on education has increased nearly 40 percent under President Bush. Additionally, Pell Grant funding nearly doubled during the Administration, which is expected to help more than 5.5 million students attend college in the 2008-09 school year, 1.2 million more students than were assisted by Pell Grants in the 2001-02 school year. This financial aid assistance also helps account for the fact that 66 percent of high school graduates from the class of 2006 enrolled in colleges, compared to 63 percent in 2000.

    Perhaps more importantly, the President's No Child Left Behind Act has delivered tangible results to students. Since the law was enacted, fourth-grade students have achieved their highest reading and math scores on record, eighth-grade students have achieved their highest math scores on record, and African-American and Hispanic students have posted all-time high scores in a number of categories, narrowing the gap between minority students and white students.
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  • Idiot r... BackWoo... 2012/06/26 11:54:01
  • BackWoo... Idiot r... 2012/06/26 12:27:44
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    Let's see... I gave you facts and figures, and you give me a chart from a left wing bumper sticker company, with manipulated figures and a biased media report.

    Good luck with that.

    “Post Grad” Education? What was your Discipline, the in depth studies of the southern Mongolian farting flea?
  • Bevos BackWoo... 2012/06/26 14:44:15
    Bevos
    +2
    Thank you. Don't you wish we could just say things and that makes them so? Like the left does?
  • BackWoo... Bevos 2012/06/26 17:02:06
    BackWoodsMike
    +1
    The libs are getting more and more pathetic, using items from “Novelty Companies” as their only reference.

    What they don't make up, they get off the back of their Fruit Loop breakfast cereal (appropriate cereal for libs) box.
  • BARRY0619 BackWoo... 2012/09/05 22:35:35
    BARRY0619
    +1
    ROFL!! He isn't worth your time...
  • Racefish Idiot r... 2012/06/26 14:11:57
    Racefish
    +2
    Mostly during the last two. Democrat majority in both Houses remember.
  • Bevos Idiot r... 2012/06/26 14:37:22
    Bevos
    +1
    What was that "budget surplus"? I keep hearing about that on here by Liberals but never any proof. Never heard anything about it while Clinton was in office either. Is that why Clinton was IMPEACHED? because he was doing so well?
  • Idiot r... Bevos 2012/06/26 18:43:23
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    George Bush kept telling us he was going to give it back to us. Was he lying about that too?
  • Idiot r... Idiot r... 2012/06/26 18:47:22
  • Bevos Idiot r... 2012/06/27 12:23:12
    Bevos
    Why aren't you answering my questions? Is that what you are pssd about? Bush didn't send you a check?
  • Idiot r... Bevos 2012/06/27 21:48:28
    Idiot repubs
    +1
    Yeah from the surplus you claim we didn't have.
  • scart molotov 2012/06/26 00:03:24
    Yes, he did.
    scart molotov
    +4
    Iraq/Afghanistan War, World Wide Global Meltdown? Is this really a question?
  • flaca BN-0 2012/06/25 23:59:40
    Yes, he did.
    flaca BN-0
    +3
    but like Bush he did something about it. Which is why we have a stable economy as opposed to a collapsed economy.
  • VoteOut flaca BN-0 2012/06/26 00:04:33
    VoteOut
    +1
    LOL astroturf
  • Bevos flaca BN-0 2012/06/26 14:45:48
  • will 2012/06/25 23:58:57
    Yes, he did.
    will
    what president doesn't
  • Ira 2012/06/25 21:36:55
    Yes, he did.
    Ira
    +5
    Jen, Jen, Jen. You looking to work for Rush or Fox? Good grief. I had considered you to have a bit more sense but this ridiculous display of utter ignorance and denial has assured me you really don't.
  • firelooker 2012/06/25 21:08:21
    No, he didn't.
    firelooker
    +2
    Facts tell the truth regardless of what the libs say
  • Kane Fernau 2012/06/25 21:05:56
    No, he didn't.
    Kane Fernau
    +4
    The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3, 2007... the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77 The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5% The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

    George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH Remember the day...

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

    Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

    Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financia...



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    The day the democrats took over was not January 22nd 2009, it was actually January 3, 2007... the day the Democrats took over the House of Representatives and the Senate, at the very start of the 110th Congress.

    The Democrat Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995.

    For those who are listening to the liberals propagating the fallacy that everything is "Bush's Fault", think about this: January 3rd, 2007 was the day the Democrats took over the Senate and the Congress. At the time:

    The DOW Jones closed at 12,621.77 The GDP for the previous quarter was 3.5% The Unemployment rate was 4.6%

    George Bush's Economic policies SET A RECORD of 52 STRAIGHT MONTHS of JOB GROWTH Remember the day...

    January 3rd, 2007 was the day that Barney Frank took over the House Financial Services Committee and Chris Dodd took over the Senate Banking Committee.

    The economic meltdown that happened 15 months later was in what part of the economy? BANKING AND FINANCIAL SERVICES!

    Unemployment... to this CRISIS by (among MANY other things) dumping 5-6 TRILLION Dollars of toxic loans on the economy from YOUR Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac FIASCOES!

    Bush asked Congress 17 TIMES to stop Fannie & Freddie - starting in 2001 because it was financially risky for the US economy.

    And who took the THIRD highest pay-off from Fannie Mae AND Freddie Mac? OBAMA And who fought against reform of Fannie and Freddie? OBAMA and the Democrat Congress So when someone tries to blame Bush.. REMEMBER JANUARY 3rd, 2007.... THE DAY THE DEMOCRATS TOOK OVER!" Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party.

    Furthermore, the Democrats controlled the budget process for 2008 & 2009 as well as 2010 & 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.

    For 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the 2009 budgets.

    And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete 2009.

    If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets.

    If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself. In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is "I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th."
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  • firelooker Kane Fe... 2012/06/25 21:11:15
    firelooker
    +7
    The libs don't want to hear the facts, they only believe what Obie wan tells them.
  • mich52 Kane Fe... 2012/06/25 21:55:42
    mich52
    +2
    Here's afew facts for you..

    Bush was President till Jan. 2009.
    Bush vetoed only 12 bills in his 8 years and the House which Frank is a member of passed a bill in 2005 to regulate the GSE's, the Senate failed too.

    http://www.realtor.org/govern...


    On October 26, 2005, the House passed H.R. 1461, the "Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2005," by a vote of 331-90. The bill would create a single, independent regulator to oversee the activities of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banks.

    The Senate Banking Committee reported its GSE reform bill, S. 190, the "Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005" on July 28, 2005 by a straight party-line vote. This bill takes a more draconian approach to GSE reform with severe limitations on GSE portfolios. It does not contain regional conforming loan limit language or affordable housing funds.
  • Kane Fe... mich52 2012/06/25 22:16:49
    Kane Fernau
    +3
    Barney Frank's Multibillion-Dollar Slush Fund
    By Bluey Posted in Congress

    Tucked away in legislation aimed at reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is a so-called "affordable housing fund" that would allow House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D.-Mass.) to direct millions of dollars, and potentially more, to liberal advocacy groups such as ACORN.

    The House is expected to vote on the Federal Housing Finance Reform Act today. The measure has won the approval of the White House, but is drawing criticism from the House GOP. Republicans object to the inclusion of the affordable housing fund because they said it would give Frank the authorization to spend the money as he sees fit. The fund could eventually total $3 billion.

    Republicans are worried that Frank, an unabashed liberal, will use the money paid into the fund to bankroll organizations such as ACORN. The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) claims to speak for the poor and minorities, but as Terrence Scanlon of the Capital Research Center has documented, ACORN has a questionable track record. It's voter registration tactics in states from Ohio and Missouri to Minnesota and Wisconsin have come under the microscope.

    Read on ...

    Circulating on Capitol Hill this morning are these four reasons Republic...









    Barney Frank's Multibillion-Dollar Slush Fund
    By Bluey Posted in Congress

    Tucked away in legislation aimed at reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is a so-called "affordable housing fund" that would allow House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D.-Mass.) to direct millions of dollars, and potentially more, to liberal advocacy groups such as ACORN.

    The House is expected to vote on the Federal Housing Finance Reform Act today. The measure has won the approval of the White House, but is drawing criticism from the House GOP. Republicans object to the inclusion of the affordable housing fund because they said it would give Frank the authorization to spend the money as he sees fit. The fund could eventually total $3 billion.

    Republicans are worried that Frank, an unabashed liberal, will use the money paid into the fund to bankroll organizations such as ACORN. The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) claims to speak for the poor and minorities, but as Terrence Scanlon of the Capital Research Center has documented, ACORN has a questionable track record. It's voter registration tactics in states from Ohio and Missouri to Minnesota and Wisconsin have come under the microscope.

    Read on ...

    Circulating on Capitol Hill this morning are these four reasons Republicans should take a long, hard look at the bill.

    • First, this fund imposes a tax on lower and middle class homeowners to finance another government housing program, the need for which is debatable. While expanding our nation's affordable housing stock is a laudable goal, we should not expect low- and middle-income homebuyers - the kind of people served by GSEs - to pay for it.

    • Second, creating such a fund invites further opportunities for misuse and abuse. Specifically, there are concerns that this fund could be used for reasons other than its stated purpose, such as to subsidize political activities by outside advocacy groups.

    • Third, this proposed fund is entirely unrelated to the legislation's goal of improving how GSEs are regulated. If majority Democrats support such a fund, they should bring it to the floor and debate it separately, rather than piggy-back it onto unrelated (and critically needed) legislation.

    • Lastly, it is disingenuous to say that creating a new, $3 billion housing program is necessary to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina. The House passed a Katrina-related housing bill back in March. Just last month, the White House announced that it will extend aid for more than 100,000 families through March 2009.

    House Republicans are hoping to strip the affordable housing fund from the bill. They support the underlying legislation, but have no desire to give Barney Frank control over the purse strings.
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  • Cognito22 mich52 2012/06/26 00:27:21 (edited)
    Cognito22
    +5
    I'll take a post from one of my SH friends and paste here:

    If you put the blame for the financial melt-down and housing crisis where it belongs, in the lap of the Democrats, all of those job losses that began in 2007-08 belong to the Clinton administration and Barney Frank. Barney Frank in 2003, when Bush was attempting to regulate Fanny and Freddie and warning of a "sytemic problem" in our financial system, said this: "I do think I do not want the same kind of focus on safety and soundness that we have in OCC [Office of the Comptroller of the Currency] and OTS [Office of Thrift Supervision]. I want to roll the dice a little bit more in this situation towards subsidized housing. . . ." House Financial Services Committee hearing, Sept. 25, 2003. Barney didn't want F&F; regulated for "safety and soundness", Bush did, Barney wanted to "roll the dice", Bush didn't, yet you and your ilk blame the collapse on Bush - amazing!
  • Bevos Cognito22 2012/06/26 14:52:36
    Bevos
    +1
    Don't try to confuse the Libs with actual FACTS. They can't handle it. They know what Obama, the Liar-in-Chief, told them and if you try to confuse them with facts, they just won't know what to do.
  • Michael=Constitution & Liberty 2012/06/25 20:33:10
    (Other)
    Michael=Constitution & Liberty
    +2
    Satan bush
    demon obama
    Same old Sh1t! different day...
    romney puppet
    sure he inherited a mess, and made it a HELL of a lot worse...
  • LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME 2012/06/25 20:16:09 (edited)
    (Other)
    LisaWay☮JUST MARCH HOME
    +2
    Sure, but so did most other POTUS'. Also, a person making promises to clean up the mess, and using other ppls' money to get a job which includes a widely known inherited mess, takes the excuse punch out-- of course he inherited a mess. That's a reason, not an excuse. He was elected to clean up the mess. It's a fail-fail situation.

    PS: every job in management I've had included an inherited mess from the previous person, which is why prior person was being replaced. Some messes are piled higher and deeper than others. But in the real world of real jobs among real ppl, even given pre-existing mess to clean up, EVEN if they did NOT tell you about the mess in advance, the "I inherited this big mess from your previous incompetent manager" excuse only works for a short time, maybe one fiscal quarter. If things are still the same or worse 3 yrs later, uh, well, they wouldn't be, b/c anyone else would have been fired after the 2nd fiscal quarter fail.

    PPS: I'm tired of this apparent allowance for politicians-- where they get to live above the law in an ivory tower fantasy world, where they get away with murder, b/c they were never real in the first place...Reminds me of when Barbie caught Ken with GI Joe who had become a mercenary-- the scandal lasted less than a day and then I found myself taking up a collection to build them a house; & GI Joe's twin the plumber moved in w/ Barbie.--The only diff there: everyone knew and acknowledged that was make-believe!!
  • Charles E 2012/06/25 20:08:17
    No, he didn't.
    Charles E
    +6
    He asked for the job. Then he proceeded to make things worse.
  • Gracie ... Charles E 2012/06/25 20:51:18
    Gracie ~Gun Totin' Gracie~
    +6
    That is correct.
  • Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO 2012/06/25 20:07:24
    Yes, he did.
    Joe Shwingding BN-ZERO
    +4
    those attempting to show the "before & after" as evidence should clearly admit their own ignorance in economics and try the SH entertainment section
  • Racefish Joe Shw... 2012/06/26 14:18:17
    Racefish
    +1
    It's clear facts won't change your mind. That's why California is in such a mess too.

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