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Did Democrats support or oppose Abolishing Slavery?

bob 2013/03/10 16:45:44
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  • DutchHeretic Native non-Ame... 2013/04/02 23:29:40 (edited)
    None of the above
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +25
    OMG! the same republican / conservative idiocy in quote mining and history twisting again ..

    The question should have been: Did Conservatives support or oppose Abolishing Slavery?
    Like all modern day Republicans /conservatives you are conveniently leaving out a very important historical fact and before you blow a gasket of a fuse read this first :

    The Democrats of the 19th century were the conservatives
    The Republicans of the 19th century were what you now would call liberals

    During the 20th century an important ideology change occurred where the Republicans became more and more conservative and the Democrats became more and more liberal

    Slavery was supported by the Conservative Democrats, of the 19th century and they kept the same conservative ideology and are now the Conservative Republicans of the 21st century

    The falsehood or your argument is naming the political parties where you should have named the political Ideology

    Example: The KKK was founded by racist Conservative Christian fanatics, and they still are racist Conservative Christian fanatics

    Confused ? you won't be after some history classes !

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  • aherbert 2013/04/19 23:58:32
    None of the above
    aherbert
    It appears that the re-write of history is still going rampid .. we all know the real deal heheheehe back in the day Dems = conservative and repub = liberals .... so what is your point?
  • Joe Ciccio aherbert 2013/04/24 11:10:56
    Joe Ciccio
    +3
    Wrong. We were a British colony, the progressives broke away from the conservative British Colony and declared independence and went to war to win independence and enforce their progressive ideology (the constitution was very progressive at the time). Slavery was not a conservative ideal at the time (English conservatives did not support slavery - Somersett Case of 1772). I don't know why so many people call the Democratic party of that time (since we only had one party at the time) the conservative party? Compared to what? The English? The fact remains the Democratic party supported slavery. The Republican party was create to abolish slavery. Simple as that! Today the Democratic party supports Welfare a form of slavery. Things never change.
  • aherbert Joe Ciccio 2013/04/30 18:53:37
  • QUIS EVADET 2013/04/19 21:42:28
    None of the above
    QUIS EVADET
    +1
    Conservatives supported Slavery.
    Liberals opposed it.

    The Conservatives back then were called Democrats.
    The Liberals back then were called Republicans.
    The parties have flipped their ideologies.

    It would be wise not to confuse a Political Party's name, with an ideology...
    Same thing when going overseas.
    You might think that you would want to hang out with the Conservatives in Norway... but, you'd soon find out that they are Conservative because they want to "Conserve" the environment, and that their ideology is "Green" and Progressively Liberal.
  • Joe Ciccio QUIS EV... 2013/04/24 10:58:01
    Joe Ciccio
    +3
    Really. Define Conservative! It was not conservative to break from Britain, that was a progressive ideology that was given the name Democracy ergo Democratic party. I can't stand the Democratic party of today. They are such spin-masters. Why don't you just say what you really mean, that is, every good ideal is Democratic and every bad idea is Republican!
  • QUIS EV... Joe Ciccio 2013/04/24 11:41:15 (edited)
    QUIS EVADET
    You're so stupid... there is no bus short enough for you.
  • CWOO10 - PWCM 2013/04/03 14:40:28
    They Opposed
    CWOO10 - PWCM
    +1
    They opposed it, facts are facts.
    While it is true that the ideology has also changed, one thing remains true:
    Democrats will try to find a way to take credit for something that is historically positive even if they had nothing to do with it, and will always blame the other party for any mistake or slip up. This is their behavior and will continue to be their behavior.
  • KilrQueen 2013/04/03 02:25:10 (edited)
    They Opposed
    KilrQueen
    +1
    The truth is the truth and you can't change it! Let me add this: The slavery issue was a North/South issue more than a Democrat/Republican issue. North was against/South was for. I also click the wrong box above...should have been "none of the above"...thanks for pointing that out Dutch!
  • DutchHe... KilrQueen 2013/04/03 21:03:05
  • Kookieless The Sexy Nihilis... 2013/04/02 23:57:17
  • #Justic... Kookiel... 2013/04/03 00:49:45
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +4
    The poster of this question is a SOCK.
  • Dave 2013/04/02 23:55:53
    They Opposed
    Dave
    +3
    But the Democratic party were the conservatives of the time, so it's kind of questionable.
  • #Justic... Dave 2013/04/03 00:50:09
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +3
    Dave, the poster of this question is a SOCK.
  • Dave #Justic... 2013/04/05 00:11:00
    Dave
    +2
    lol Well - it sure sounds like something by a Right Wingnut.
  • DutchHeretic Native non-Ame... 2013/04/02 23:29:40 (edited)
    None of the above
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +25
    OMG! the same republican / conservative idiocy in quote mining and history twisting again ..

    The question should have been: Did Conservatives support or oppose Abolishing Slavery?
    Like all modern day Republicans /conservatives you are conveniently leaving out a very important historical fact and before you blow a gasket of a fuse read this first :

    The Democrats of the 19th century were the conservatives
    The Republicans of the 19th century were what you now would call liberals

    During the 20th century an important ideology change occurred where the Republicans became more and more conservative and the Democrats became more and more liberal

    Slavery was supported by the Conservative Democrats, of the 19th century and they kept the same conservative ideology and are now the Conservative Republicans of the 21st century

    The falsehood or your argument is naming the political parties where you should have named the political Ideology

    Example: The KKK was founded by racist Conservative Christian fanatics, and they still are racist Conservative Christian fanatics

    Confused ? you won't be after some history classes !
  • #Justic... DutchHe... 2013/04/03 00:48:57
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +4
    The joker who started this question is a bona fide SOCK...I would venture to say he's a racist who's projecting through this question.
  • DutchHe... #Justic... 2013/04/03 10:47:43
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +6
    People who try to make a statement by posting a falsification of history of this magnitude to make a point certainly have something wrong with them and maybe you are right, it is safer to use a disposable second account for this so the writer's real account is safe...
  • #Justic... DutchHe... 2013/04/03 16:13:59
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +1
    That is why they create them my friend. To safeguard their primary account. The one he is using now smells like filthy socks.
  • Joe Ciccio DutchHe... 2013/05/19 17:45:13
    Joe Ciccio
    So why are you posting?

    Really. Here is a history lesson...

    Whig party mean anything to you? The National republican party was renamed to Democratic party. The Whig party was created to fight against tyranny of Democrat Andrew Jackson (King Andrew) who shut out the banks and pushed for more Gov't control and less private enterprise which led to the great panic. Sounds like Obama. Whigs were supported by wealthy manufacturers. Lincoln was a Whig party member in Illinois (as Governor). Whigs dissolved over slavery because of there anti-slavery ideas pushed them out from stronger Democratic pro-slavery ideas. Eventually the 'old Whigs' gained power when Lincoln was elected and created the Republican party. The Whigs were conservative because they wanted less gov't intervention into private enterprise unlike the Democrat Andrew Jackson who wanted more gov't control (this is the definition of today's democrat/republican party same as it was then). So where is the conservative principles of Andrew Jackson since he was a Democrat? KKK was run by fanatics and no affiliation to the republican party or the Whigs who were the conservatives of the time and who were also against slavery. So it seems the ideology and the party (conservative) were against slavery.
  • DutchHe... Joe Ciccio 2013/05/19 19:04:21 (edited)
  • bob DutchHe... 2013/04/03 18:29:35
    bob
    That would explain the Democratic vote against the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 and the fact that Senator Byrd was a Member of the KKK and that it was Democrats that founded the KKK and before you spit out the Liberal trash about them being Republicans ( Conservatives) remember that Byrd was in the Congress from 1957 till 2005, so he has a Long Voting record and it is Liberal including his stance on the Civil rights Bill. The Democratic Party continues it racist Policies today just now it is by allowing Inner city schools to fail and creating a Welfare system that is by intent Creating a Large group of people with no way out, living on the Crumbs the Liberals socialist Democrats allow to fall their way while they tell them they are helping. While they hold them back from a better life and ensure that their kids have no better chance then they had by Block Vouchers and any other effort to give them good education.
  • DutchHe... bob 2013/04/03 19:03:19
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +3
    there will always be exceptions to the rule bob, but the way you blatantly lie in this post does not change
  • DutchHe... bob 2013/04/03 21:03:46
  • Joe Ciccio bob 2013/04/24 10:52:44
    Joe Ciccio
    +3
    Amen! Welfare = Slavery = Votes.
  • Bibliop... DutchHe... 2013/04/20 01:34:31
    Bibliophilic
    LOL they call it revisionist history when they want to blatantly lie. There was never anything liberal about the KKK.
  • DutchHe... Bibliop... 2013/04/20 10:15:49 (edited)
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +1
    tell me about it , this selective quote mining of everything is just a way to make smoke screens and a part of the principle of propaganda
  • Joe Ciccio DutchHe... 2013/04/24 10:44:35 (edited)
    Joe Ciccio
    +2
    The fact is at the time the Democrats supported Slavery as they do now. Forget the "naming" and twisting of ideals because any way you attempt to spin it they have not changed in their fundamental belief that "blacks" shall serve their party. The only difference is today they do it with policies such as welfare and as you can see in the voting statistics the "black" community overwhelming support the Democratic party, still there slave masters. Welfare imprisons people to a life of dependency (as does slavery). People should be paid to perform work, that teaches them values, self worth and independence - a Republican ideology! Here we go again, the Republicans are yet again trying to abolish slavery. I will never understand why the majority of the black community votes Democratic, it is sadistic to a point.
  • DutchHe... Joe Ciccio 2013/04/24 23:50:17
  • No One 2013/03/12 20:39:21
    None of the above
    No One
    +9
    The democrats of the civil war error opposed abolishing slavery however during the civil war the roles of the parties were reversed. Back then the democrats were conservatives while republicans were liberals. So while it was the democrats who were against abolishing slavery it was the equivalent of today's conservative republicans who were against abolishing slavery as it was the conservatives who were against abolishing slavery.
  • bob No One 2013/03/13 02:46:49
    bob
    NOT
  • nerak611 bob 2013/04/14 01:39:26
    nerak611
    +1
    You obviously flunked history!
  • bob No One 2013/03/15 04:58:56
    bob
    that is not true but it is the Liberal spin thanks
  • No One bob 2013/03/15 16:14:35
    No One
    +5
    This isn't a liberal spin but historical fact that you should have learned in History Class.
  • bob No One 2013/03/16 22:47:01
    bob
    Not. then the effort by the democrats in the 60ies to block civil rights Legislation was what they were republicans pretending to be Dems. Spin baby spin.
  • No One bob 2013/03/17 02:51:52
    No One
    +2
    Actually in a way the democrats who tried to block civil legislation were republicans pretending to be Dems. They were Southern Democrats who were Conservative to spite being Democrats.
  • bob No One 2013/03/17 14:53:23
    bob
    Robert Byrd served in the Senate till 2005 look at his voting record you libs live in lie and you know it and the sad part is you are OK with it. No God, No Morals and No Consequences this is the Liberal way. How terribly Sad for all of you.
  • DutchHe... bob 2013/04/02 23:39:26
    DutchHeretic Native non-American
    +1
    It's history Bob...
    Very interesting by the way "Political History of 200 years USA"
  • #Justic... No One 2013/04/03 00:50:52
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +2
    Greencone, the poster of this question is a SOCK.
  • No One #Justic... 2013/04/03 00:53:26
    No One
    +2
    Thank's for informing me of this GuruA2J!
  • #Justic... No One 2013/04/03 00:58:58
    #Justice4Trayvon 629 BLOCKT CONS
    +2
    My pleasure, check out his profile. He has every characteristic of a SOCK.

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