Quantcast

DHS Gives America 50M Reasons To Think Obama is Gearing Up For Civil War....

snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques 2012/12/21 01:47:35
Contracts for large purchases of ammunition by the Department of
Homeland Security and other agencies have been in the news quite a bit
this year and while I understand that an argument can be made for large
purchases considering the number of employees that train and have to
qualify annually, it does begin to raise questions about large purchases
in a short amount of time. Consider the latest presolicitation
from DHS for 250,000,000 rounds of .40 caliber ammunition over the next
five years. That’s 50 million rounds per year. In light of that, some
have questioned whether Barack Obama is gearing up for a civil war.

This solicitation follows up a Special Notice
that was filed three months ago on behalf of the Customs and Border
Enforcement (CBE) and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).
According to the Special Notice, the stated purpose is:


The purpose of this solicitation is to achieve price
savings over the current 40 SW ammunition. Resulting award will be used
for training/qualifications only, not for duty use.


James Smith at Prepper Podcast Radio Network reports:


In August of 2011, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requested and awarded a contract for 350,000,000 (350 MILLION) rounds.


See the following articles:


The History Of DHS Ammunition Purchases

DHS/ICE is over-gunned and over manned

Latest ammunition purchase reeks of collusion and Chicago Style politics

DHS prepares for fiscal cliff by ordering hundreds of thousands of rounds


Click here for a list of ALL the ammunition purchases since 2009.


For a grand total now of 1,140,618,530 or 1.1 BILLION rounds.


What, pray tell does an agency with less than 50,000 people need
700,000,000 rounds of ammunition for other than storing up in
preparation for a major event?


In addition it should be mentioned that earlier this year, in August, DHS had purchased 750 million rounds of high powered ammunition. In March the Agency purchased 450 million hollow point bullets and in September they purchased another 200 million sniper rounds of ammunition.


DHS has not been the only federal agency contracting purchases of ammunition. While the Social Security Administration attempted to respond to the press about their purchase solicitations, they ended up actually making a very good case for individuals to carry their weapons.


What is ironic is that these solicitations for purchase are all being
made as the siren call of the left goes out demanding more gun control
laws be implemented, with only the government and obviously criminals
having access to certain types of firearms.


The question I have is, is this really about cost effectiveness? Or
is that merely a line we are being sold by the administration? It could
be that this is merely “business as usual” or it could be something
else. I’ll let the reader investigate and come to their own
conclusions.

You!
Add Photos & Videos

Top Opinion

  • jimmy "In God We Trust" 2012/12/21 03:48:51 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +9
    You better harden up people; this civil war will be a whole lot bloodier then the first one.
    When governments fear the people there is liberty, when the people fear the government there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect them against tyranny.

    Thomas Jefferson http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og

Sort By
  • Most Raves
  • Least Raves
  • Oldest
  • Newest
Opinions

  • TidBit 2012/12/29 03:33:47
    TidBit
    +1
    Obama is dangerously inept, unthinkably careless, and frighteningly indecisive.
  • Pedro Doller ~Inc. 2012/12/27 03:16:11
    Pedro Doller ~Inc.
    +1
    Along with this, keep an eye out for the percentage of military deployed far, far from home. Now a bunch will be deployed all over Africa too. Notice that a purge of comanders is under way.
  • snell/G... Pedro D... 2012/12/29 02:42:05
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +1
    This comes as no surprise that battle hardened, dedicated, ethical military commanders are leaving - same can be said here at home - all the serious, tenured, medical doctors are moving on as well.
  • frankie 2012/12/26 15:52:22
    frankie
    +1
    oh i absolutley think that is what he has in mind . he wants us to be like the countries like libya egypt and the other middle east countries kill their own people. barry hates the americans. there is no other reason to buy up the ammo. and fight to take our guns.
  • snell/G... frankie 2012/12/29 02:42:59
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    absolutely true. the man is the enemy.
  • Tennessee3501 2012/12/23 05:30:31
    Tennessee3501
    +1
    The next Civil War will be when President Obama declares war on women! Since he wants to confiscate all guns from the men, he will want to confiscate all birth control from the women. General Patraeus will be his commanding general. And the women voted for the President thinking he was on their side! The joke is on them!
  • snell/G... Tenness... 2012/12/29 02:43:41
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +1
    ,,,,,alotta fools in America that's for sure!
  • pumpkin1960 2012/12/22 05:17:00
    pumpkin1960
    +2
    I guess they are also driving up the price by putting a high demand on the ammunition. Kaybe they see that caliber being declared illegal. Why should the govt. care how much they buy, our grandchildren will pay for it.
  • jimmy ... pumpkin... 2012/12/22 15:14:41
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +3
    That’s exactly what they’re doing when a two hundred round battle pack of 308 cal was thirty eight dollars 5 years ago, now it is 398 dollars driving the price right out of the hands of the working class.
  • Cn2012 2012/12/21 23:58:49
    Cn2012
    Why do people think this is so impossible??!!!!
  • Cn2012 2012/12/21 23:58:04
    Cn2012
    Why do people think this is so I possible??!
  • jimmy ... Cn2012 2012/12/22 04:33:36 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +2
    When governments fear the people there is liberty, when the people fear the government there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect them against tyranny.
    Thomas Jefferson
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
    Ronald Reagan http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og
  • Cn2012 jimmy ... 2012/12/22 17:24:27 (edited)
    Cn2012
    +1
    Oops. I meant impossible, I ,meant to delete that type o. =)
  • belle 2012/12/21 19:42:44
    belle
    +3
    If a Civil War comes about while Obama is president it will in up in destroying what was once considered the free country that all foreigners used to look up to. There will be such an unnecessary massacre of people, I just pray the good guys (true Americans), not the government, come out the winners in this horrible possible situation, If not it will be known as America's Last Stand as Custer's Last stand was at Little Big Horn.
  • jimmy ... belle 2012/12/22 04:30:34 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +2
    Most of the fighting will be against NATO forces, only a small amount of liberals will fight on the government side most will flee to Canada. I have talked to a lot of Mexicans I'm in the construction industries most of them said they would return to Mexico. http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og
  • belle jimmy ... 2012/12/23 21:54:13
    belle
    +2
    agree with you
  • snell/G... belle 2012/12/29 02:45:36
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +1
    right you are belle!
  • Lanikai 2012/12/21 18:25:07
    Lanikai
    +2
    ANyone who does not NOW understand how horrible this administration is, BETTER get a clue and fast.

    This is the stuff of a takeover, and a full on dictatorship. After Jan 21, be prepared.
  • jimmy ... Lanikai 2012/12/22 04:36:08 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +2
    I'm as prepared as I can get with my budget the rest I will have to obtain with lead and blood. http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og
  • Lanikai jimmy ... 2012/12/22 14:51:07
    Lanikai
    +2
    I actually decided to spend some of my Christmas budget to stock a bit more heavily. Cause I figure within 6 months of Jan 21, things will be bad enough.
  • santa6642 2012/12/21 15:10:43
    santa6642
    +4
    This one will be a lot worst trhen the one in 1863, The Constitution will win this time.
  • sneekyfoot 2012/12/21 14:42:57
    sneekyfoot
    +3
    ammo is stable and can be stored for decades , they bought it cheap and it will likley last as long as that agency is in existance. homeland security
  • jimmy ... sneekyfoot 2012/12/22 04:47:33 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +1
    It will take some time but if you go to fedbiz.gov and research the pre-solicitation you can search by agency, you will be able to find out the price the government paid for this ammo, if it was not a screming deal, then you will know without a doubt it is in prep for something big. http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og
  • sneekyfoot jimmy ... 2012/12/22 19:05:59
    sneekyfoot
    +2
    I dont care what they got they couldnt put down a full scale uprising by we the people without nukes and soldiers who would follow their orders .
  • Rustie 2012/12/21 13:58:38
    Rustie
    +3
    Huh? Oh, don't mind me. I'm just loading.
  • Squatch 2012/12/21 13:58:03
    Squatch
    +4
    Things seem to being going play by play for civil war. The first thing he has done is divided the people into two classes, not just Americans. Other explanations for the ammo could be an attemp to create an ammo shortage in the USA, but since I am military I have always said if Obama wants to crack down on dissent he would use an agency like DHS and not the military. Just look at our history and how the FBI cracked down on Communists after WWII
  • Lanikai Squatch 2012/12/21 18:26:54
    Lanikai
    +4
    Exactly, DHS has oredered several hundred assault vehicles, bullet proof, fully loaded with multi track capability.
  • Squatch Lanikai 2012/12/21 18:30:51
    Squatch
    +2
    Right - the real question is how many people - even in DHS would go along with it. I have a fellow flight nurse buddie who is an ex-cop and he is getting his Master's Degree in Homeland Security. He has told me several times he would never disarm Americans if it came down to it. Let's hope there are more like him!!!
  • Lanikai Squatch 2012/12/21 18:35:34
    Lanikai
    +2
    The UN troops will and all of the nbpp that have been recruited for this "war" will be happy to, add in the muslims obama has allowed in EN MASS, and the radical drug cartel guys from mexico and that equals one large, hateful, civilian army against the citizens. Post inaugural will be the time it all starts hitting the fan.
  • Squatch Lanikai 2012/12/21 18:39:52
    Squatch
    +2
    That is one reason I will never give up my guns. In my opinion this would be an unwinable war if America remains armed. America has never really won a guerilla war and in a melting pot culture like the USA it is going to be impossible to tell the good guys from the bad guys until it is too late.
  • jimmy ... Squatch 2012/12/22 04:59:32 (edited)
  • Squatch jimmy ... 2012/12/22 16:16:17
    Squatch
    +1
    Right on - we will be shooting at the same blue helmets - Although I am still saving for a nikon mil dot scope to get me out to 600 - right now I am pretty proficient at 300 - It is amazing how a really good scope can cost twice as much as the rifle
  • jimmy ... Lanikai 2012/12/22 04:52:42 (edited)
    jimmy  "In God We Trust"
    +1
    That’s OK the Afghanistan and Iraq war made us all professionals in the art of IED and VBIED
    http://youtu.be/SsVOzOea6og
  • Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning 2012/12/21 13:35:42
    Flash,aka,Mr.Lightning
    +3
    The DHS consists of 50k agents,-what is that number amongst over 300 million citizens (and illegals)? Hitler had his police force,-the Gestapo. Could the DHS be akin to the Gestapo in Obama's mind? Hitler also had his SS military divisions seperate from the regular German military; these were those that took an oath to personally serve Hitler and many in the regular military despised them. For a true civil war against the American populace by Obama he would need the support of our military and there be many in our military that despise him and would not give their support. Pre-WW2 Germany the populace was madly in love with Hitler and he was also 'Man of The Year' and the love affair continued until Hitler led them into a bloodbath of carnage. Hitler was a citizen of Austria and yet won elections in Germany to become ultimately their leader and eventually do away with elections. In other words the citizens allowed a non citizen to become dictator. If you study Hitler you will find many parallel similarities between Hitler,Obama and other dictators.
    Also it is possible that the DHS has word that there are terrorist amongst us and are planning attacks. With our wide open borders I would state they are here already. A few months ago intelligence found information that terrorist w...
    The DHS consists of 50k agents,-what is that number amongst over 300 million citizens (and illegals)? Hitler had his police force,-the Gestapo. Could the DHS be akin to the Gestapo in Obama's mind? Hitler also had his SS military divisions seperate from the regular German military; these were those that took an oath to personally serve Hitler and many in the regular military despised them. For a true civil war against the American populace by Obama he would need the support of our military and there be many in our military that despise him and would not give their support. Pre-WW2 Germany the populace was madly in love with Hitler and he was also 'Man of The Year' and the love affair continued until Hitler led them into a bloodbath of carnage. Hitler was a citizen of Austria and yet won elections in Germany to become ultimately their leader and eventually do away with elections. In other words the citizens allowed a non citizen to become dictator. If you study Hitler you will find many parallel similarities between Hitler,Obama and other dictators.
    Also it is possible that the DHS has word that there are terrorist amongst us and are planning attacks. With our wide open borders I would state they are here already. A few months ago intelligence found information that terrorist were planning attacks on our elementary schools (this info was not provided to the general public). When I first heard the news coming out of Newtown I feared this was beginning.
    Kissing muslim butt worldwide,helping the muslim brotherhood to come to power in Egypt and Libya while not securing our borders all contributes to terrorist attacks. If you were a terrorist would you come into JFK or blend in with a bunch of Mexicans crossing our southern border?
    (more)
  • gregory... Flash,a... 2012/12/21 13:51:14
    gregory.brown.5030
    +3
    Depends on if the citizens are armed or under a gun ban.
  • robert 2012/12/21 13:24:07
    robert
    +3
    They know they cant convert the country to communism without a fight from freedom loving americans!!!
  • Annette 2012/12/21 12:57:24
    Annette
    +6
    Might someone think or suggest al Qaeda or HAMAS or the Muslim Brotherhood? Since the plans are to go to Sharia Law in the next 4 yrs. it just might make sense to somebody. Anybody remember Allah akbar and Death to infidels? Doesn't hurt to ask, now does it?
  • snell/G... Annette 2012/12/29 02:48:10
    snell/GOD & COUNTRY-zero cliques
    +2
    well some of us just happen to know the REAL truth now dont we.
  • Annette snell/G... 2012/12/29 18:38:47
    Annette
    When you have seen it up close and personal - oh yes!
  • NoBama Man 2012/12/21 11:33:37
    NoBama Man
    +3
    It's called cornering the market...the govt. will purchase as much of the backstock of ammo as they can...and have contracts for future stock of ammunition...
    this makes it almost impossible to supply ammunition to any body else for consumers...by controlling stock...in essence they control price.
    It will very difficult for the companies to meet the demand of these government CONTRACTS...the sheer volume will be difficult to keep up with...and materials will be harder to acquire....making the values of materials and time rise...lowering production for private consumption...while driving prices continually higher...
    They won't prohibit the public from firearms....they will price you out of the game...by consuming the resources and energy making firearm usage cost prohibitive.

    It's called capitalism...and the progressives have learned to use it against us by perverting its concept while using greed and power to 'nudge' you from firearms...in other words they are using YOUR (own money) tax dollars to price YOU out of the market.

    You can have your guns...but eventually bullets will be like shooting gold nuggets.

See Votes by State

The map above displays the winning answer by region.

News & Politics

2014/07/31 20:26:12

Hot Questions on SodaHead
More Hot Questions

More Community More Originals