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Democrats secure abortion funding deal on eve of expected health vote

- Pelosi and others work into the night to try to clear roadblocks on the healthcare overhaul bill. With a historic floor vote looming on their healthcare bill, House Democratic leaders secured an 11th-hour compromise late Friday night to settle a long-simmering debate over how to restrict federal funding for abortion.... Read full article »
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  • +13 raves leantom - Extremist November 07, 2009 18:16:01
    leantom - Extremist
    I've said it many times, and I'll say it again.

    ABORTION IS BETWEEN A WOMAN AND HER DOCTOR. Roe v. Wade stipulated that, since abortion was a private medical procedure between women and doctors, the public had no right enacting a ban against abortions. However, when you allow the public to pay for private medical procedures such as abortion, you're saying that abortion, indeed, is not a private matter and therefore the public has a say in individual abortions.

    Furthermore, where's the justification in having to pay for people's abortion procedures. This is so unconstitutional (just looking at the literature from Roe v. Wade) it's disgusting. I've no problem with abortions so long as people pay for their medical procedures individually.

    In conclusion, what the hell is this? This is so scummy and so depraved that I wouldn't mind committing a coup right now.
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    JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGAN... November 09, 2009 11:23:04
    JESUS WAS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, PILATE WAS A REPUBLICAN
    Cool. Let's start by aborting the Palin's.
  • The_Edge November 09, 2009 06:05:37
    The_Edge
    Maybe they should be focusing on this instead? But I suppose in the Obamaists world of denial, it will just be "Bush's Fault".

    Oil rises above $78 as US dollar slides
    By ALEX KENNEDY


    SINGAPORE (AP) - Oil prices rose above $78 a barrel Monday in Asia as a weaker U.S. dollar offset signs of slumping consumer demand.

    Benchmark crude for December delivery was up 94 cents to $78.37 a barrel at midday Singapore time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

    Crude has traded inversely to the dollar for months as investors buy commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation and a weaker U.S. currency. Oil rose to $82 last month, its 2009 high, from $32 in December.

    The euro rose to $1.4929 in Asian trading Monday from $1.4885 on Friday while the dollar was steady near 90 yen.

    Crude fell $2.19 to settle at $77.43 on Friday after the Labor Department said the unemployment rate jumped more than expected in October to 10.2 percent, the highest since 1983.

    The dismal jobless data stirred concerns that U.S. consumer demand will remain sluggish despite an overall economic recovery. Investors will be eyeing third-quarter earnings reports this week from retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Abercrombie & Fitch Co., Macy's Inc. and JC Penney Co. for clues ...



    Maybe they should be focusing on this instead? But I suppose in the Obamaists world of denial, it will just be "Bush's Fault".

    Oil rises above $78 as US dollar slides
    By ALEX KENNEDY


    SINGAPORE (AP) - Oil prices rose above $78 a barrel Monday in Asia as a weaker U.S. dollar offset signs of slumping consumer demand.

    Benchmark crude for December delivery was up 94 cents to $78.37 a barrel at midday Singapore time in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

    Crude has traded inversely to the dollar for months as investors buy commodities such as oil as a hedge against inflation and a weaker U.S. currency. Oil rose to $82 last month, its 2009 high, from $32 in December.

    The euro rose to $1.4929 in Asian trading Monday from $1.4885 on Friday while the dollar was steady near 90 yen.

    Crude fell $2.19 to settle at $77.43 on Friday after the Labor Department said the unemployment rate jumped more than expected in October to 10.2 percent, the highest since 1983.

    The dismal jobless data stirred concerns that U.S. consumer demand will remain sluggish despite an overall economic recovery. Investors will be eyeing third-quarter earnings reports this week from retailers such as Wal-Mart Stores Inc., Abercrombie & Fitch Co., Macy's Inc. and JC Penney Co. for clues about the strength of consumer spending.

    In other Nymex trading, heating oil rose 1.95 cents to $2.02 a gallon. Gasoline for December delivery gained 2.03 cents to $1.94 a gallon. Natural gas for December delivery jumped 3.6 cents to $4.63 per 1,000 cubic feet.

    In London, Brent crude for December delivery rose 89 cents to $76.76 on the ICE Futures exchange.
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  • marcuss November 08, 2009 03:43:08
    marcuss
    the money for dismembering children inside a woman must be a great victory for the demoncraps. money dismembering children woman victory demoncraps

    they are not humans they just look like one.
  • Vivian marcuss November 09, 2009 01:13:58
    Vivian
    Where on earth can you find children inside a woman? Medical miricle much. Why aren't we humans again? Because we chose to use science and logic instead of photoshopped pictures?
  • VoiceOfReason November 08, 2009 00:34:28
    VoiceOfReason
    I don't understand why this is such a big deal. As far as I am concerned an abortion procedure is an elective procedure that should not be paid for by any public funding. The right to one is not in question here but the right to have someone else pay for it (Someone elses right) is being compromised. There is nothing in this bill that would restrict a womans right to an abortion. If you make the decision to end your pregnancy then you should pay for it yourelf
  • twocrows VoiceOf... November 08, 2009 01:14:08
    twocrows
    and that's what the compromise in the article did, jfwiw.
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    Captain Tobias. The Liberal... November 07, 2009 23:12:00
    Captain Tobias. The Liberal Captain
    Abortion is only for her women and their doctors. I am glad though that Abortion is in the bill. I dont believe the Government should be telling women what to do with their unborn babies.
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    The_Edge Captain... November 09, 2009 06:07:31 (edited)
    The_Edge
    Then you don't mind if we put to death every murderer currently sitting in our jails sucking up our tax money? After all if you are OK with murdering innocents, you must be OK with murdering those that are guilty. Gee, think of all the starving citizens we could feed with the money saved feeding those monsters in prison. Right?
  • Captain... The_Edge November 09, 2009 17:09:59
    Captain Tobias. The Liberal Captain
    Actually, I WOULD like all of the really awful people in jail put to death!

    Anyway, read what I said again.

    I actually do not like Abortions, I dont want women to GET abortions, but I still do not bellieve the Government should TELL women what to DO with their unborn babies.
  • The_Edge Captain... November 10, 2009 14:02:11
    The_Edge
    Why not. They tell smokers they can't smoke. They tell Burger King to quit serving fatty food. They are in everyone's lives. Why is a pregnant woman somehow exempt from the total invasion of FedZilla. But what it comes down to is all women, except those victimized by rape or incest, have choice. They have choice to not have sex, to use contraceptives, and to not become pregnant if they don't want to have a baby. For those that are victimized, they should be able to do what they want. But abortion is killing a conceived baby and it is not a method of birth control and taxpayers should never have to fund it.
  • words to live by November 07, 2009 22:53:56 (edited)
    words to live by
    The real unemployment rate is 16.2 The government and the media have an incentive to make you feel better about yourself so that you will continue to vote for them and buy the products they advertise respectively. So they don't tell you the truth.

    I hope everyone who loses their jobs applies for welfare, food stamps, medicaid, SCHIP, public housing. Then let's see who's going to pay taxes for this crap they're trying to ram down our throats?
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    words to live by November 07, 2009 22:41:20
    words to live by
    Pelosi, Reid, Obama do not care what anyone says or does. They will ram this health care bill through regardless of 2010. Their ego is on the line.
  • +1 raves
    cat November 07, 2009 22:04:01
    cat
    So, now Pelosi and her LIb. friends are having tax payers be responsible to pay for abortions from people who are irresponsible Does the Gov. expect the american people especially the tax payers to fund any more than we already do? The tax payers care for the ones who need SSI and that is ok. The people in this country will be left without anything for their own family. What happens if the american people all at the same time stop paying their taxes? That would be a TEA PARTY. LOL Obama would than see the people are not taking it NO MORE. Stop the financial abuse. OBAMA!
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    Joe Mama November 07, 2009 21:51:44
    Joe Mama
    This crosses the line, forcing people to pay for the abortions of others.
  • stormdog Joe Mama November 08, 2009 19:13:19
    stormdog
    nobody forces you to buy the public option .can you not read ?
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    Artist November 07, 2009 21:41:22
    Artist
    I find it interesting that the Dems are pushing a vote on a Saturday...disparate measures.
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    cat Artist November 07, 2009 22:54:43
    cat
    For sure and it sounds like it will past tonight? Obama was on the Hil, so it is getting pretty disparate.
  • Artist cat November 08, 2009 00:12:46
    Artist
    Um, I would be pretty surprised if it did even with the abortion angle taken out...after last Tuesday, the moderate Democrats have got to be looking at the big board and wondering "Do I keep my job or throw myself on the sword for obama?"
  • +1 raves
    celeste November 07, 2009 20:37:47
    celeste
    That was a good decision.
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    ducdodger November 07, 2009 20:06:50
    ducdodger
    Just goes to show you that the dems don't really give a rats ass what we think.
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