Delta Pulls its ads from Jon Stewarts show after the Catholic League boycotts delta for airing ads on Stewarts show. Do you think Jon Stewarts show should be canceled for his attacks on Christians?

Probably so. Fading into obscurity doesn't tend to be the result of controversy so much as the lack thereof.

Like Limbaugh's die hard fans, Stewart's die hards will be there for him long after he stops being relevant, arguing their damnedest to the contrary.

I really don't think there is anything wrong with what Jon did. Was it over-the-top, maybe a little, but when pointing out absurdities, sometimes one must resort to the absurd. As I said before, Bill Donahue is a professional victim. He has made a good living being offended while promoting heinous ideas himself. He needs to recognize that his religion is sacred to him, but that doesn't make it off limits to comedy. It probably wouldn't hurt him to evolve a sense of humor, either.

Ehhh... so, where does humor end and insulting/bullying begin? As I understand it there is nothing more personal to a believer than their religion. Not even their Momma. The kind of humor that defiles someone's religious symbols is the kind of humor that ends up with the Lord of the Flies kids dropping a boulder on Piggy. Fun at causing pain to others, and beyond disrespectful.

Since you brought us your new politically correct word for gay bashers earlier, it seems you are onboard with the anti-bullying crusade. So why is it you fail to see the incredibly hurtful nature of Stewart's behaviour, and dismiss Donahue as a "professional victim?"

Could it be simply be old-fashioned in-group out-group discrimination?

Associating an activist like Donahue with the Spanish Inquisition, etc. is kind of like associating Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton with the bloody reign of Shaka Zulu. Some folks call them "professional victims" as well, and even deny that the racism they decry exists.

Although you claim to be selective in your targets, the leap to associate religion with "almost every mass genocide in human history" betrays a broader judgment of religion, Christianity in particular, as a negative influence.

I really don't think it is important at all to split hairs. Prejudice is inherent in human cognition; it's the quick judgment system that kept our ancestors alive, particularly when dealing with other groups of our own species, so not necessarily a bad thing. It is probably better to recognize and acknowledge our general bigotries than to deny them, since they colour our thoughts and actions either way.

Let me clarify: I didn't say "religion is responsible" I said MEMBERS or religions. Perhaps a better way to say it would have been "religious fanatacism" is responsible.
There is something to what you said about Jackson and Sharpton (though I do think Rev. Al has mellowed a little in his older age); but there is one MAJOR difference: Al and Jessie represent a minority group. Donahue represents the biggest and most powerful force on earth. The Roman Catholic Church boasts the largest religious membership of any religion on earth. The RCC is not in a position to be oppressed or persecuted. They were at one time, roughly 1700 years ago, but they aren't anymore. Nor are they ever likely to be again.
I think any kind of fanatacism can weild a negative influence. If my concern is more heavilly directed toward Christianity, it's only because Christians have the numbers and the power to do more damage than any other group right now.
If I were to name 5 living people, I would like to spend time with, because I admire them; three of them are clergy of some kind, including the first person I would name (Archbishop Desmond Tutu). I don't think Christianity is inherently bad. I think fantatacism is.

I would be surprised if Catholicism still has the numerical edge over Islam. The United States may not see this shift yet, but the rest of the world is another matter.

I see things a bit differently than you -- I don't think religious fanaticism leads to abuse. Rather, blind religious fervor can be exploited by charismatic and consciously evil individuals (psychopaths, who are not corrupted by anything but their own flawed genetics).

I believe the answer to this is actually religious education. If the general population is very clear on the tenets of the religion(s) they profess belief in, would they not be less apt to follow the whims, fashions, and outright propaganda of the moment?

Yes, I'm aware that this was the crux of Luther's Protestant movement. ;)

I think everyone should learn about the various religions of the world. It's very eye-opening; but the problem is that religious fanatics arent interested in education. They're interested in their own dogma, and in making you agree with them. Most don't have a skeptical bone in their bodies when it comes to religion. It's personal for them. And while the leaders of these mobs may be sociopaths, it doesn't absolve their lemming-like followers of the blood they spill.

The "leaders of these mobs" have very rarely been sociopaths. It's just that when it happens that is what is remembered -- similar to how the black/white/etc. man who beat and raped someone's sister/brother/mother might be the one they remember.

I get the feeling that when I refer to the likes of Jim Jones, you are thinking of Jerry Falwell...

When I was a kid the term for church I heard was "Sunday school," and I took that pretty literally as the purpose of the thing (being a kid). That's still there in the foundations of my world-view. Perhaps not how everyone sees it, but I have not run across that many hard-headed dogmatists who could not discuss theology and doctrine. Most folks mirror what you throw at them, though.

You're right, some are not sociopaths, however some of the seemingly mainstream leaders, are. Ted Haggard and Jimmy Swaggart come to mind.
Others are more of the charismatic true-believer type, like James Dobbeson, and Rick Warren; still others are the self-serving showman type, this is the Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson type. All can be dangerous in their own way
I wish my experience with believers were more like yours. in my experience, about 1/3 are as you described. The rest tend to fall under the true-believer type, for whom even saying you don't believe what they believe, equates to calling them stupid. It shouldn't, but it does.

The catholic league is out of touch with reality . Letting supernatural, superstitions set their policy is wrong .

Oh, so being insulted on numerous levels by an elitist scumbag on television wouldn't bother folks if they didn't believe in Jesus?

Belief in gods is the highest form of being brainwashed from childhood on into adulthood. Think about it !

I realize that religion has a social foundation. I don't think it is worse than other social pressure; to be clear, I think it is better than most, because of the concept of sanctity. Human mortality was recognized as a limitation on law and ethics, as every generation has it's turn at ignorant youth.

Religions associate law with eternal concepts such as God. Those who set that level of authority were of a similar mind to our nation's founder, who rejected kingship in favor of republic, in that they put the law even above themselves. This seems to have worked better than any system easily subject to change, including it seems, that of the United States (despite our founders' attempts to similarly establish laws beyond the realm of human whim, such as the inalienable rights).

I do not have to believe in order to appreciate the value of this idea.

But that is really beside the point. Those who do believe in a god or gods have made their choice just as validly as you have yours.

No qualms about that ! Everyone is entitled to believe what they want as long as you don't try to make me believe as well. And I especially don't believe in the supernatural, occult, surreal or superstitions . And even more so when they are conceived by a human designrd to control other humans in his peer group.

First off, this is America, and he can say whatever he wants; second, Christianity isn't weaker just because of his opinions, and third, are we really that unsure of ourselves as Christians that we need to whine about what some second rate comedian says?

Oooooooooooooooooooo I'm scared.

Even the Pope thinks Bush is an idiot.

Bush? What?

Man... you know a lotta people here probably want some of what chgonugget was smoking before lapsing into that coma five years ago. ;)

I get this image of Rip Van chgonugget startling back to consciousness on his couch, petrified pizza slice in one hand, burned-out spliff in the other, and turning on his computer to find folks boycotting Jon Stewart and talking about cancelling his show. Forget where the three feet of whiskers came from, it's just another typical day on the interweb.

Are you kidding me? Jon Stewart is an equal opportunity "attacker" and funny as can be. He attacks anyone who uses religion to espouse their political views. Long live The Daily Show with Jon Stewart!

Oh, and by the way, it's satire. Good L-rd! Donahue is an idiot.

If I were Jon Stewart I would say "Delta hates women's vaginas."

His show is needed if for no other reason than to highlight the stupidity of liberal/progressive/socialists.

And what about the sutupidity of ultracons and right wing wackos?

Jon Stewart's show is good for that, too. Lol.

What is sutupidity?

I meant stupidity. It's just a typo.

Who listens to Stewart to begin with? His show is spoof news that so many koolaid drinkers rely on as fact. He is free to say what he wants. Of course the so called liberals (hypocrisy to the max) seem to only think there is freedom of speech when they make a comment even when it is an attack, let a conservative say nearly anything and they get attacked by the liberals for using freedom of speech.

Yes, it is spoof news and isn't it rather pathetic that he gives more actual news on his show than actual news organizations?

What's pathetic is the fact that all news in this country is slanted no matter who tells it. There was a time when the state owned news of Russia, China and Cuba where nothing more than political propaganda, now they tell more true news than the liberal media does in a country where we are supposed to have freedom of press not repressed press. Welcome to the new AmeriKa.

Welcome to FOX "news"

Or MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC or CBS.

That's why I don't watch any of them. ; ) I watch CSPAN and listen to arguments in the House and Senate. I never listen to sound bites. I read how my representatives and others voted on issues and pay heed to what is in bills that are passed. Gone are the days of Walter Cronkite, unfortunately.

I stopped watching them all in 2008 when they got all warm and fuzzy over the fraud.

Funny how people that watch political satire are more informed than Foxnews watchers. It is conservatives that don't allow free speech.

These POS fascists are pathetic. Notice they dont talk about reducing the military machine, its all about cutting services and squeezing the little guy.
I want the rich taxed at least @ 80% and those Corporate sweatshop owners, I want them taxed to the MAX. Trickle down my ass. Yeah, the poor will hire you and the poor will create jobs ones we get these rich bastards to pay up and stop sucking our blood.

No, it is liberals who violate free speech by passing Unconstitutional "hate crimes" laws. They passed the 'Pedophile Protection Act' in 2010.

LMAO. How would you know? You would have to watch FOX to know the difference and according to libs like you, you don't watch FOX. As far as watching fantasy land news, it figures you would watch that, the whole Obama administration is fake along with your favorite non-news program. How pathetic.

Just a conservative here saying no. Stewarts show shouldnt be cancelled.
I believe in freedom of speech even if the Libs dont.

The nativity scene was a humorous attack against a very real war on women with trans-vaginal ultrasounds. Catholic theology is against contraception and vehemently against abortion. The first is not embraced by Catholics, the latter is. The GOP wants to ban contraception with life at conception. Even in Bible belt MS that issue was voted down by the public.

Spoken like a true turd polisher.

Is that the best you can do mental pansy?