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Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) -- A shot rings out, but the burqa-clad woman sitting on the rocky ground does not respond.
The man pointing a rifle at her from a few feet away lets loose another round, but still there is no reaction.
He fires a third shot, and finally the woman slumps backwards.
But the man fires another shot.
And another. And another.
Nine shots in all.
Around him, dozens of men on a hillside cheer: "God is great!"
Officials in Afghanistan,
where the amateur video was filmed, believe the woman was executed
because two Taliban commanders had a dispute over her, according to the
governor of the province where the killing took place.
Both apparently had some kind of relationship with the woman, said Parwan province governor Abdul Basir Salangi.
"In order to save face," they accused her of adultery, Salangi said.
Then they "faked a court to decide about the fate of this woman and in one hour, they executed the woman," he added.
Both Taliban commanders were subsequently killed by a third Taliban commander, Salangi said.
"We went there to investigate and we are still looking for people who were involved in this brutal act," he said.
It is not clear from the video when it was filmed.
The killing took place in the village of Qimchok, not far north of the capital Kabul.
Lawmaker Fawzia Koofi called it a huge backward step for women's issues in Afghanistan.
"I think we will have to
do something serious about this, we will have to do something as women,
but also as human beings," she said. "She didn't even say one word to
defend herself."
Koofi wept on Saturday as she watched the video of the execution.
The United States condemned the killing "in the strongest possible terms," calling it a "cold-blooded murder."
"The protection of
women's rights is critical around the world, but especially in
Afghanistan, where such rights were ignored, attacked and eroded under
Taliban rule," the American embassy said in a statement on Sunday.
The NATO-led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan also condemned the execution.
"Let's be clear, this
wasn't justice, this was murder, and an atrocity of unspeakable
cruelty," ISAF commander Gen. John Allen said in a statement Sunday.
"The Taliban's continued brutality toward innocent civilians,
particularly women, must be condemned in the strongest terms. There has
been too much progress made by too many brave Afghans, especially on the
part of women, for this kind of criminal behavior to be tolerated."
The public execution is
the latest and among the most shocking examples of violence against
women in Afghanistan, but it is far from an isolated case.
The Taliban also does
not have a monopoly on the violence, cautioned Christine Fair, with the
Center for Peace and Security Studies at Georgetown University.
"It's really important
to not see this exclusively in terms of the Taliban, but this is a set
of practices that actually have existed and continue to exist throughout
Afghanistan," she said.
Nearly nine out of 10
women suffer physical, sexual, or psychological violence or forced
marriage at least once in their lifetimes, Human Rights Watch said in
its 2012 annual report.
The country has 14
shelters for abused women, a number which the campaign group says "does
not meet even a small fraction of the need."
Hundreds of students and
teachers at girls' schools in the country have been hospitalized with
suspected poisoning this year alone. Girls were forbidden to go to
school when the Taliban ruled the country from 1996 to 2001.
Salangi, the provincial
governor, spoke to CNN about the killing on Sunday, the same day that
representatives of more than 80 nations and organizations met to
consider pouring billions more aid dollars into the country.
U.N. Secretary General
Ban Ki-moon urged delegates including U.S. Secretary of State Hillary
Clinton not to demand complex reforms in exchange for the money.
"Afghan institutions are
still in their nascent stages," he said. "The very programs which offer
the best hope of sustainability of Afghan institutions should not be
held hostage to complex preconditions."
Clinton said donors at
the conference pledged about $16 billion for Afghanistan over four
years. That amount did not include money from the United States because
any foreign aid must be approved by Congress.
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Just for you HH and PP
Check out the video, CNN doesn't show anything graphic, but you can get the gist.
Read More: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/08/world/asia/afghanist...
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Jackie G - Poker Playing Pa... 2012/07/09 13:08:39I got your comment right here......+14This is not only shocking but inexcusable - there can be no semblance of peace when people sanction this kind of savagery .
And to all those women who pretend there is a War on Women because they have to buy their own birth control pills or that some few try to legislate things they consider abhorrent
You, my dears, are whining about people with the same rights as you but of different opinions. THIS IS THE FACE OF A WAR ; THIS LADIES, IS A WAR ON WOMEN





















great point.
But many Muslims have a more moderate view in other countries such as Indonesia. In fact there are certain Muslim dominated countries that outright disapprove or ban the wearing of the veil. The three most populous Muslim countries have elected FEMALE presidents/prime ministers, which I can point out the US hasn't done just yet.
All I'm saying is don't generalise an entire religion because of the actions of extremists. There are actually a lot of good Muslims in the world, its just not as newsworthy. I once knew the story of a priest who was captured by Islamist Extremists in the South of the Philippines. He was there to provide aid to the villages thats been wrecked by violence. Afterwards Muslims started gathering and protesting his capture, demanding that the priest be let go and allowed to perform his mission.
It doesn't mean I'm a fan of Islam, that I say this, it does mean that some constructive criticism and solution based points (education is key) might be in order but, other than that, let those without sin cast the first stone.
We should remember that Europe and other places have had their dark ages too. The reason we don't anymore is education.
I say, until they modernize in their own countries muslims and islam should be kept out of civilized countries.
Education, U.S. law and our Constitution are key, and the latter neither can establish an official religion nor can it prohibit free practice of religions within the bounds of U.S. law, and that includes Islam.
Log Meet Eye -- U.S. rates of violence, sexual abuse and murder committed against women and children are pretty high and these problems cross all cultural, religious, economic and other boundaries.
1,000+ to 1,100 females are killed by their partners in the U.S. each year. That's more than 3 a day. A day. http://www.domestic-violence-...
About 4 million American women experience a serious assault by a partner during an average 12-month period.
http://www.domestic-violence-...
Our other rates of violence, abuse and murder are way too high too, and guess what? Your wish to deny the religious rights of other U.S. citizens is something that belongs to the same power paradigm as all of those and other abuses.
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Education, U.S. law and our Constitution are key, and the latter neither can establish an official religion nor can it prohibit free practice of religions within the bounds of U.S. law, and that includes Islam.
Log Meet Eye -- U.S. rates of violence, sexual abuse and murder committed against women and children are pretty high and these problems cross all cultural, religious, economic and other boundaries.
1,000+ to 1,100 females are killed by their partners in the U.S. each year. That's more than 3 a day. A day. http://www.domestic-violence-...
About 4 million American women experience a serious assault by a partner during an average 12-month period.
http://www.domestic-violence-...
Our other rates of violence, abuse and murder are way too high too, and guess what? Your wish to deny the religious rights of other U.S. citizens is something that belongs to the same power paradigm as all of those and other abuses.
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You complain about domestic violence by partners against women, do you think it will stop when muslims become majority?
When fear grips a brain more than sound, informed reason, it's usually a downward spiral that results if it's left unchecked and I don't want our nation to go there. I don't want our nation unraveling because creedism, fear and hatred got a hold of people and got the better of them.
If you try to portray me as justifying any violence, you're incredibly misguided and/or deceptive in an attack mode sort of way. I already pointed out that we have U.S. federal, state and Cons...
When fear grips a brain more than sound, informed reason, it's usually a downward spiral that results if it's left unchecked and I don't want our nation to go there. I don't want our nation unraveling because creedism, fear and hatred got a hold of people and got the better of them.
If you try to portray me as justifying any violence, you're incredibly misguided and/or deceptive in an attack mode sort of way. I already pointed out that we have U.S. federal, state and Constitutional Law to help protect us against prejudice, wrongdoing and violence on our soil. We have these to protect everyone's rights and well being. Everyone's.
I spoke out against abuse. I've authored a number of in-depth pages that speak out against abuse in a particularly in-depth, informative, useful manner (understatement) -- you can see them on my blog and I even gave you links that point out that creedism and trying to deny others their religious liberties belongs to the same Abuse metaparadigm as the one you decry. Did you read and understand any of that? How can you solve the problem if you're feeding the same monster (the Abuse paradigm)?
I want to see a decrease in violence both here and there. Creedism can't accomplish that. Prejudice is never an axis of morality. Education (including education about abuse vs. equality), our laws and upholding the Constitution are key.
As for the burgeoning world population of Muslims, over 1.62 billion and rapidly increasing, pertinent education aimed at equality rather than the abuse paradigm is the one thing that can penetrate paradigms, that can be taken in, taken to heart, and that can really change the world for the better, bringing us out of any hatred or dark ages. Note: The beautiful thing is that is not at odds with defending our national security, our freedoms, our liberty, our well being, the structure of our law and Constitutional rights!
Your idea of spiraling into hate and prejudice can't do all that. That type of control is darkly motivated, woefully **unsustainable**, sketchy and incredibly limited and it's in the Abuse meta power paradigm, the same power paradigm that spawns religious war, domestic abuse, and a host of other ills. Don't feed that many headed monster. Don't call up what's so hard to put down. Don't do that out of fear, ignorance and hatred.
It is not peace and tolerance. It is a totalitarian system combining religious aspects and political. It is political doctrine dressed up as religion.
Sorry, denying and unraveling our legal and Constitutional system to satisfy your authoritarian creedist leanings is not the answer!
You are right about the old testament, it contains some horrible verses. Not surprising that Koran resembles so much Jewish Torah (Old Testament) Muhammad (pbuh) loved that violent side of Jewish god, it fit his personality.
The difference between Judaism and Islam is that Judaism considers Israel a god's chosen people and does not insist on converting others by any means in the way Islam does. In that aspect Islam closely resembles marxism, eventualy everyone must submit or be smitten by allah or marx as the case may be. In case of allah the smiting is done by muslims in case of marxism by the communists.
Precisely because Islam, like marxism, is a hostile intolerant political ideology it should not be protected by the first amendment.
Muslims made that painfully obvious that they have no allegiance or respect for the US flag and American Constitution.
To tolerate that is not enlightened it plain stupid. What would happen if a group of Christians did the same with Islamic flag and denounced muhammad as a fraud?
Well, this is just a start;
We don't need your creedism to do that. The kind of creedism that you're promoting, prohibiting any practice of Islam on American shores, is weak and ineffective and unsustainable. Your position would be in opposition to U.S. laws, our Constitution and freedom of/from religion.
Creedism is not the solution. No one is excused.
Well, the case for employing legal system can be made when the muslims like the black Panthers are prosecuted and not let go free. If the legal system worked then why those muslims in Dearborn were not arrested and charged for stoning christians?
Where is your outrage at that? None that I can see. Creedism, is just another buzzword to beat up people you disagree with.
Saying that no one is excused and that we don't need creedist criminalization of entire religions in the U.S. but that we do need to uphold U.S. laws, our Constitution and our federal defenses as well as focus on education, that's not excusing anyone. It's holding you accountable and subject to our laws and Constitution too. Along with others. Everyone else.
Yes, I mentioned things like Dark Ages in the Christian world in order to ask the pertinent question of why aren't we like that now? The answer was education, our laws, our Constitution, our national defenses -- these are why we aren't like that now. These, however, are what you want to undo in pursuit of criminalizing the religion of Islam in the U.S.
Yes, I brought up problematic biblical passages but only within specific contexts...like when it was said the the Koran advocates violence and so on, therefore we should criminalize any practice of Islam on U.S. soil. That's what you and others have been advocating here. I pointed out the bible has passages that advocate ...
Saying that no one is excused and that we don't need creedist criminalization of entire religions in the U.S. but that we do need to uphold U.S. laws, our Constitution and our federal defenses as well as focus on education, that's not excusing anyone. It's holding you accountable and subject to our laws and Constitution too. Along with others. Everyone else.
Yes, I mentioned things like Dark Ages in the Christian world in order to ask the pertinent question of why aren't we like that now? The answer was education, our laws, our Constitution, our national defenses -- these are why we aren't like that now. These, however, are what you want to undo in pursuit of criminalizing the religion of Islam in the U.S.
Yes, I brought up problematic biblical passages but only within specific contexts...like when it was said the the Koran advocates violence and so on, therefore we should criminalize any practice of Islam on U.S. soil. That's what you and others have been advocating here. I pointed out the bible has passages that advocate violence too but that education coupled with upholding U.S. laws and our Constitution were our answers. Not criminalizing religions.
Yes, our justice system isn't perfect. No, that's no reason to ignore U.S. laws, the U.S. Constitution and other things that support, enforce and defend our U.S. freedom of/from religion.
The kind of creedism that's so severe that it leads to criminalizing religions in the U.S. (isn't going to happen) or to burning Korans in a 'Pastor Terry Jones vs. World' sort of way is not the answer. Remember that? What happened, as a result? Do you remember that? It obviously didn't make anyone wake up and stop the violence or religious war. It only resulted in pitting of Christianity against Islam. That's what attacking religions instead of protecting liberty and justice does.
Sorry, but Islam is not going to be criminalized in the U.S. and while some Muslims are militant fundamentalist jihadists that hate the U.S. and its freedom of speech, not all of them are. You'd know it if the nearly two million or so U.S. Muslims were all like the ones you showed in the video.
All all Americans like Pastor Terry Jones because he's on video too?
Support U.S. laws and our Constitution and freedom of/from religion in the U.S.
Support sound general education and additional education about violence vs. equality.
It is about time that Christianity start defending itself because muslims never stopped attacking it. For the last fourteen hundred years muslims exterminated entire populations in certain regions all the time yelling "allahu akbar."
Read something about that and the muslim agression in the Balkans, Spain, France and Southern Ukraine and Poland.
People, leaders who effectively resisted islamic invasion understood what they were dealing with. Those were Khan Tervel of Bulgaria, Charles Martel of Franks, King of Poland Jan Sobieski, Prince Eugen and others who after much struggle were able to keep islam away from Europe and made the renesaince and industrial revolution possible.
Such accomplishments would not be possible if muslims have not been kept in check. It is no acc...
It is about time that Christianity start defending itself because muslims never stopped attacking it. For the last fourteen hundred years muslims exterminated entire populations in certain regions all the time yelling "allahu akbar."
Read something about that and the muslim agression in the Balkans, Spain, France and Southern Ukraine and Poland.
People, leaders who effectively resisted islamic invasion understood what they were dealing with. Those were Khan Tervel of Bulgaria, Charles Martel of Franks, King of Poland Jan Sobieski, Prince Eugen and others who after much struggle were able to keep islam away from Europe and made the renesaince and industrial revolution possible.
Such accomplishments would not be possible if muslims have not been kept in check. It is no accident that technology was not created in the islamic world. All that could be lost if islam is allowed to spread in the West because if it does take over than the entire Constitution and bill of rights will mean nothing.
Those two videos above illustrate that very well. Muslims themselves tell us the truth about islam by their actions.
No. U.S. law, our Constitution and our federal defenses defend our freedom of/from religion -- they defend our liberties, our rights, our freedoms. Education can further promote such things in practice, not just in theory, and can have a much farther reach (understatement). I'd rather be for that than against all of Islam, one quarter of the world's population and soon to surpass Christians in number.
I don't want any senseless pan-Islamic vs. 'Good 'Ol American Christian' war. Religious wars like that can go on for thousands of years. You know they can. That's what's been going on in the Middle East for thousands of years. It's never been resolved.
Bravo! Way to go! (Sarcasm.)
Animals are far superior to these lowest of life forms!!
Their culture is different, to say the least, and it is another example of why I will NEVER be Muslim. Do I think this action was horrid? Yes. However, I'm here, not there.
the commentator who is in that CNN report is speaking from dubia , a muslim country ?
how it comes ? can anyone explain why not from USA or non muslim country
if the muslims in dubai there read the hate comment below and abuse toward all muslims in the world without exception , they may close that braodcasting centre ?
ramadan is fast approaching , have peace wih yourself and leave muslims alone and their affairs and do not be naive to believe in anything you se and this acting for other purposes -do not be naive -
How does murderers in sport following the conclusion of a mock trial with the violent execution of a woman reflect the Islamic religion practiced by Muslims?
Is it your intention that because a violent criminal act occurs in a country that has a majority religious base that it is the direct responsibility and fault of that religion, thereby condemning the entire religion and its populace?
LOL
If thats the case. I agree, and support your movement to eliminate all religions.