DEAD DOGS VOTING FOR OBAMA???
SunShine
2012/07/16 12:33:36
Voter fraud is the big issue that may decide the outcome of this election
In Seattle, Wash., last month, Brenda Charlston received a voter registration form in the mail from the Voter Participation Center with all the blanks filled in for “Rosie Charlston,” her black Labrador who died in 1998.
The Obama supporting center says it has mailed some 5 million forms using commercially available databases to target Democratic-leaning groups such as unmarried women. What did they use in the Brenda/Rosie mailing? The dead dog mailing list?
In June, in Buford County, Va., Tim Morris received a filled-out voter registration form for “Mozart Morris” addressed to “Mo,” his dog that passed away two years before. Again, the form came in the mail from the Voter Participation Center.
In Bernalillo County, N.M., an anonymous Republican registered his dog as a voter at a voter registration booth at the University of New Mexico to show how easy it would be to defraud the system. Election officials claim they followed the law and referred the case to state prosecutors for criminal investigation of the dog owner!
Election officials throughout the country report a surge of voter registrations from animals, dead people and noncitizens.
Republicans believe Obama is depending on these registrations to win the election and want laws requiring voter ID at the polls. Democrats charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote to increase the odds of a Romney win.
This Democrat charge formed the basis of a lawsuit by Obama’s Department of Justice to block a Texas law that requires voter photo ID to vote. Texas is one of 26 states with such laws.
The DOJ claimed the requirement would bar eligible voters from voting and that the cost of getting the proper ID amounted to a “poll tax.” The Texas law provides for a free state ID to anyone lacking a driver’s license or other photo ID.
A study by a DOJ expert produced a long list of Texans who lacked government-issued photo ID and, it was alleged, were thereby disenfranchised. The list and the study were a fraud.
The list turned out to contain the names of 50,000 dead people, 330,377 seniors who can vote by mail without ID, 261,887 voters who included a driver’s license number on their voter registration form, 800,000 Texans who were, in fact, registered to vote and who did have a government issued photo ID.
The list also contained the names of Texans with U.S. military ID (acceptable for photo ID to vote), former Texas residents who had moved to other states, disabled voters who were exempt from the Texas photo ID law and noncitizens.
Strangely, the list of those who “lacked government issued ID” included former President George W. Bush, two state legislators and the wife of another, former U.S. Sen. Phil Gramm, current U.S. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison and even the Texas director of elections, Keith Ingram – who was listed not once but twice!
However, even the Texas attorney general has yet to find the names of any dogs, living or dead, on the list.
Obama’s DOJ also went after Florida for passing a similar law. It seems that Obama voters who were dead, felons or noncitizens would not get to vote.
Florida Gov. Rick Scott ordered county election officials to examine the integrity of the voting rolls. In the first review, the names of 83,000 dead people were discovered still registered to vote.
The dead deserve representation given the estate-tax debate, but the law does not yet allow them to vote.
DOJ also objected to Florida’s insistence that felons be barred from voting.
Noncitizens were also found on the voter rolls, and Gov. Scott fought to get access to the federal Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements, or SAVE, database. SAVE will allow Florida to purge the voter roll of noncitizens.
In a strange, parallel world, the Obama Agriculture Department requires ID on every cow, and now on every chicken, on every American farm.
Obama wants to trace the movement of farm animals but not illegal aliens; he wants to ID every farm animal to protect the public health but does not want to ID voters to protect the integrity of elections.
With the memory still fresh that the 2000 presidential election was decided by a handful of voters in Florida, the determination of who gets to vote in 2012 could decide who will be the next president.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/dead-dogs-for-obama/
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Schläue~© 2012/07/16 13:02:26
A law in search of a crime to justify it...
Meanwhile, tens of thousands will be forced to pay for documents acceptable to obtain the required voter ID...aka, a poll tax!
And while most states (but not all) have directly avoided the Poll Tax charge by making the ID free of charge, they require other documents which are NOT free, and are often quite expensive, when you have almost no money to start with (snide comment about smoking notwithstanding).
It also assumes the documents are even available...it used to be common practice back in the 1930s/40s/50/ even 60s, for children in rural areas to be born at home and very often no birth certificate was even issued. The woman in PA who is the poster child for how this harms honest American voters is a 91 year old woman who never had a driver's license, and had her SS card stolen. She can't get a birth certificate because the county she was born in, which keeps the records, burned down years ago and all records were lost. So she's facing being unable to vote for the first time since 1960, thanks to conservative paranoia over something that simply isn't an issue.
Are there ever some illegal votes cast? Sure there are! We get over 100 million votes cast in Presidential elections. But absolutely no evidence exists there have ever been enough votes cast illegally to even measure more than...
And while most states (but not all) have directly avoided the Poll Tax charge by making the ID free of charge, they require other documents which are NOT free, and are often quite expensive, when you have almost no money to start with (snide comment about smoking notwithstanding).
It also assumes the documents are even available...it used to be common practice back in the 1930s/40s/50/ even 60s, for children in rural areas to be born at home and very often no birth certificate was even issued. The woman in PA who is the poster child for how this harms honest American voters is a 91 year old woman who never had a driver's license, and had her SS card stolen. She can't get a birth certificate because the county she was born in, which keeps the records, burned down years ago and all records were lost. So she's facing being unable to vote for the first time since 1960, thanks to conservative paranoia over something that simply isn't an issue.
Are there ever some illegal votes cast? Sure there are! We get over 100 million votes cast in Presidential elections. But absolutely no evidence exists there have ever been enough votes cast illegally to even measure more than a fraction of a percent. So, what it comes down to, is it worth forcing over a million LEGAL voters to be denied their right to vote, to prevent a few hundred illegal votes (with no actual guarantees it will even do that)?
BTW, did you know one of the acceptable forms of ID to vote in Texas, spelled out in law, is an NRA membership card (which has no picture on it where I am...perhaps they do in Texas?). But specifically barred are student ID cards, some of which DO have pictures on them! Explain how a non-photo ID issued by a non-government agency can be acceptable, but a photo ID issued sometimes BY a government agency (state university) is NOT acceptable? Unless the goal is to allow conservatives (ie. NRA members) to vote while denying Democrats and liberals (such as college students)...
As for kids born in the 30's 40's and 50's.. most did get a birth certificate based upon their baptism certificate.. or if they weren't baptised, a note from the mid-wife about the time of delivery.
At 91, she likely started getting SS at a time where you didn't need to provide much more than your name, address and DOB to start collecting (more trusting era). And yes, it was that easy. When I was a kid, my dad died, and my mom collected SS benefits on our behalf for several years (which is a great deal why I'm a serious supporter of SS AS IS, not as the GOP want it to be). My mother didn't have to produce a passport, driver's license, or any sort of photo ID (there wasn't such a thing then), to start collecting.
Problem with people from the 30s-50s having birth certificates, first, many did NOT (most did, but far fewer than today) get them, and second, for many it was so long ago the paper-only certificates have been lost, destroyed, damaged. I've read comments from literally dozens of elderly men and women who've pointed out the church with their baptism record or the county office building with their birth certificate had long ago burned down, been torn down, whatever, and they couldn't locate any record.
And all of this returns to the original problem...these are laws in search of a non-existent problem! There are multiple searches for proof of modern vote fraud, and they all reach the same conclusion: it is, at worst, miniscule (is in...
At 91, she likely started getting SS at a time where you didn't need to provide much more than your name, address and DOB to start collecting (more trusting era). And yes, it was that easy. When I was a kid, my dad died, and my mom collected SS benefits on our behalf for several years (which is a great deal why I'm a serious supporter of SS AS IS, not as the GOP want it to be). My mother didn't have to produce a passport, driver's license, or any sort of photo ID (there wasn't such a thing then), to start collecting.
Problem with people from the 30s-50s having birth certificates, first, many did NOT (most did, but far fewer than today) get them, and second, for many it was so long ago the paper-only certificates have been lost, destroyed, damaged. I've read comments from literally dozens of elderly men and women who've pointed out the church with their baptism record or the county office building with their birth certificate had long ago burned down, been torn down, whatever, and they couldn't locate any record.
And all of this returns to the original problem...these are laws in search of a non-existent problem! There are multiple searches for proof of modern vote fraud, and they all reach the same conclusion: it is, at worst, miniscule (is in, like 0.0003% of votes), but most likely is even less likely. And even supporters of these laws admit they'll result in literally tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of legal voters losing their vote! Does it make sense to deprive hundreds, thousands, of times as many legal voters their vote, to prevent at worst a few illegal votes?
Meanwhile...where is the outrage over Nathan Sproul and his multiple companies which are doing EXACTLY what the GOP accused ACORN of doing? And note, ACORN did NOT work for the Democratic Party in any form (national, state, local), but Sproul's companies worked under direct contract with Republican Party organizations (FL GOP, RNC, Romney campaign, plus at least 9 other state GOPs).
Mickey Mouse could register to vote a million times nationwide, and it doesn't prove a single fraudulent vote, ever, anywhere...
In fact, when GA tried to pass its Voter DIsenfranchisement Bill several years back, during testimony before the state legislature, the senior official running the department responsible for voting in the state was directly asked, will the bill disenfranchise legal voting American citizens? He answered yes, probably several thousand (estimates are actually tens of thousands). Then he was asked, how many fraudulent votes have been caste in the last 50 years in the state of Georga? Answer: none anyone could ever find (and they'd been looking for years).
In South Carolina, same thing happened when then state Sec of State Hailey testified before their legislature about their Voter DIsenfranchisement Bill. Thousands would lose their legal voting ability; not one case of a fraudulent vote cast in 50 years...
The Bush Admin spent literally seven years with a special DOJ task force searching for widespread vote fraud. Final result? A total of 84 -- EIGHTY-FOUR -- fraudulent votes ever found! Roughly half were people who simply didn't realize they'd been removed fr...
Mickey Mouse could register to vote a million times nationwide, and it doesn't prove a single fraudulent vote, ever, anywhere...
In fact, when GA tried to pass its Voter DIsenfranchisement Bill several years back, during testimony before the state legislature, the senior official running the department responsible for voting in the state was directly asked, will the bill disenfranchise legal voting American citizens? He answered yes, probably several thousand (estimates are actually tens of thousands). Then he was asked, how many fraudulent votes have been caste in the last 50 years in the state of Georga? Answer: none anyone could ever find (and they'd been looking for years).
In South Carolina, same thing happened when then state Sec of State Hailey testified before their legislature about their Voter DIsenfranchisement Bill. Thousands would lose their legal voting ability; not one case of a fraudulent vote cast in 50 years...
The Bush Admin spent literally seven years with a special DOJ task force searching for widespread vote fraud. Final result? A total of 84 -- EIGHTY-FOUR -- fraudulent votes ever found! Roughly half were people who simply didn't realize they'd been removed from the voter rolls for various reasons (i.e. confusion over when and if a felon regains their right to vote, as it varies from state to state). Also roughly half were actually Republicans!
So we're passing laws that every admits will cause hundreds of thousands, perhaps a few million, LEGAL voters lose their ability to vote, to prevent...nothing??
The state Senate leader in Pennsylvania, a Republican, accidently truthfully explained why all these Voter Disenfranchisement Bills are being passed (only in GOP controlled states, notice), when he gleefully came out and said their bill would deliver Pennsylvania to Mitt Romney!
The retrial of former Troy, N.Y., City Councilman Michael LoPorto on ballot fraud charges has revealed detailed testimony about the casting and soliciting of absentee ballots.
LoPorto was charged with 22 counts of second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument for his role in an alleged Democratic Party attempt to steal a city council primary victory in 2009, according to the Times Union.
Robert Martiniano, a former Democratic candidate for the City Council’s second district, testified that forging absentee ballots is a tradition in local politics.
“It’s was something that was just in the culture for both major political parties,” Martiniano testified, according to the Mental Recession blog.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said voter fraud is “a problem that does not really exist.”
Slate, a left-leaning current events and culture magazine, published a May 31 report by Center for American Progress staffer Scott Keyes claiming that while that voter fraud may be “easy” to commit, “in truth, concerns about voter fraud usually stem from other conservative fears.”
The debate about voter fraud and what to do if it exists has reached final arguments in a court case pitting the state of Texa...
The retrial of former Troy, N.Y., City Councilman Michael LoPorto on ballot fraud charges has revealed detailed testimony about the casting and soliciting of absentee ballots.
LoPorto was charged with 22 counts of second-degree criminal possession of a forged instrument for his role in an alleged Democratic Party attempt to steal a city council primary victory in 2009, according to the Times Union.
Robert Martiniano, a former Democratic candidate for the City Council’s second district, testified that forging absentee ballots is a tradition in local politics.
“It’s was something that was just in the culture for both major political parties,” Martiniano testified, according to the Mental Recession blog.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder has said voter fraud is “a problem that does not really exist.”
Slate, a left-leaning current events and culture magazine, published a May 31 report by Center for American Progress staffer Scott Keyes claiming that while that voter fraud may be “easy” to commit, “in truth, concerns about voter fraud usually stem from other conservative fears.”
The debate about voter fraud and what to do if it exists has reached final arguments in a court case pitting the state of Texas against the Department of Justice. The Supreme Court upheld Indiana’s voter I.D. law in 2008; thirty-two states in total have such a law on the books.
http://news.yahoo.com/ny-demo...
Posted: Jan 21, 2012 6:26 PM PST
Updated: Feb 05, 2012 5:46 PM PST
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - South Carolina's attorney general has notified the U.S. Justice Department of potential voter fraud.
Attorney General Alan Wilson sent details of an analysis by the Department of Motor Vehicles to U.S. Attorney Bill Nettles.
In a letter dated Thursday, Wilson says the analysis found 953 ballots cast by voters listed as dead. In 71 percent of those cases, ballots were cast between two months and 76 months after the people died. That means they "voted" up to 6 1/3 years after their death.
OK...your own example concerns absentee ballots, for which the Voter Disenfranchisement Laws wouldn't do much to prevent, since the GOP designed them to protect military (and others) who vote absentee.
Secondly, your example shows only 22 votes in a national election almost never has even the smallest effect on anything.
Third, no, I'm not wrong. The Bush DOJ DID spend years searching for vote fraud in national elections and found exactly 84 cases! If in fact there were more, it just demonstrates the total incompetence of the Bush Admin to do anything right!
Last, as your cut-and-paste accurately points out, whether vote fraud is easy to commit or not isn't really the issue, since it rarely happens these days (decades ago, sure; today? rarely).
FYI, you want to know about vote fraud, go ask Ann Coulter, since she committed it and walked away (county, state and Federal authorities were all GOP and refused to charge her, even when her own agent admitted Coulter had fraudulently registered and voted).
There are very few legal citizens of this country that won't have a valid ID because simply put.. they need it for many things going through life.
but illegal..yes.. many and then there are all those dead folks that democrats always register.. Any sincere intelligent person in this country knows the purpose of valid ID for voting is to prevent fraud.. nothing more.
I only wish these states would wake up ( all of them ) and pass their own laws on requiring people who have the ID and to present that ID when showing up to vote. Goes to show that the registration card that gets sent to your home, may not be good anymore, not unless it is really you that it is sent too. Another deceitful company not with the name of ACORN, but none the less works in the same way, to find dead and illegal persons and now animals to vote in the upcoming November election.
I only wish these states would wake up ( all of them ) and pass their own laws on requiring people who have the ID and to present that ID when showing up to vote. Goes to show that the registration card that gets sent to your home, may not be good anymore, not unless it is really you that it is sent too. Another deceitful company not with the name of ACORN, but none the less works in the same way, to find dead and illegal persons and now animals to vote in the upcoming November election.
I have NEVER been so ashamed of any President, in all my life, as I am of Obama. I can't even bring myself to call him "President" Obama. He is, in my opinion, without a doubt, a complete, and TOTAL, disgrace.
God, please, give us a new President in November!