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Current legislation in California to decriminalize marijuana and treat it essentially like alcohol, your thoughts?

Moose 2009/02/23 22:50:10
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California state Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) today announced the introduction of legislation to tax and regulate marijuana in a manner similar to alcoholic beverages. The bill, the first of its kind ever introduced in California, would create a regulatory structure similar to that used for beer, wine, and liquor, permitting taxed sales to adults while barring sales to or possession by those under 21.

Estimates based on federal government statistics have shown marijuana to be California’s top cash crop, valued at approximately $14 billion in 2006 — nearly twice the combined value of the state’s number two and three crops, vegetables ($5.7 billion) and grapes ($2.6 billion) — in spite of massive “eradication” efforts that wipe out an average of nearly 36,000 cultivation sites per year without making a dent in this underground industry.

Ammiano introduced the measure at a San Francisco press conference this morning, saying, “With the state in the midst of an historic economic crisis, the move towards regulating and taxing marijuana is simply common sense. This legislation would generate much needed revenue for the state, restrict access to only those over 21, end the environmental damage to our public lands from illicit crops, and improve public safety by redirecting law enforcement efforts to more serious crimes,” said Ammiano. “California has the opportunity to be the first state in the nation to enact a smart, responsible public policy for the control and regulation of marijuana.”

“It is simply nonsensical that California’s largest agricultural industry is completely unregulated and untaxed,” said Marijuana Policy Project California policy director Aaron Smith, who also spoke at the news conference. “With our state in an ongoing fiscal crisis — and no one believes the new budget is the end of California’s financial woes — it’s time to bring this major piece of our economy into the light of day.”

Independent experts from around the world, from President Nixon’s National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse in 1972 to a Canadian Senate special committee in 2002, have long contended that criminalizing marijuana users makes little sense, given that marijuana is less addictive, much less toxic, and far less likely to induce aggression or violence than alcohol. For example, in an article in the December 2008 Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, Australian researcher Stephen Kisely noted that “penalties bear little relation to the actual harm associated with cannabis.”
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  • mikenassau 2009/03/08 16:01:39
    It's about time!
    mikenassau
    +9
    But I think we must do something about all the lung damage and diseases and death caused by smoking. Smoking marijuana gets people used to smoking and makes tobacco use more likely. I had friends in England who mixed tobacco and marijuana and made combined cigarettes. This would lead to nicotine addiction.

    Rather than the negative route of outlawing smoking or cigarettes, I would like to see a variety of edible products on the market. Google THC pills to see one route to go. Marijuana (dried leaves), hashish (resin) or THC (active chemical) can be cooked into many products, such as cookies, candy, gum. Eating it is much less damaging than smoking it.

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  • Anthony 2009/02/25 00:50:09
    It's about time!
    Anthony
    +1
    Alcohol is much worse than marijuana.I have no use for the
    marijuana like alcohol.By decriminalizing it would help their
    economy..I don't see why not.
  • Kimberly 2009/02/25 00:47:51
    It's about time!
    Kimberly
    +2
    It's tough. It's the drugs you CAN'T smell that worry me if I had kids not the weed. People say it's a starter drug and the same can be said for alcohol and it's legalized. I could go more into detail but the bottom line is it should be at least decriminalized for possesion. Selling it is an entirely different thing. Like I said it's a tough call.
  • shaunbaby79 2009/02/25 00:37:45
    It's about time!
    shaunbaby79
    +2
    Just what the economy needs. Maybe they'll start issuing permits to the dealers..lol
  • Common Sense 2009/02/25 00:30:40
    It's about time!
    Common Sense
    +4
    It's funny to read some of these comments from people who have clearly never smoked marijuana. There are so many myths and falsehoods surrounding pot, that it is easy to find a platform against it if you are ignorant of the truth. I am a Californian, and most of the marijuana smokers I know hold corporate jobs that require responsibility and quick thinking. Quite a difference from the "hippie" and "pothead" stigma so heavily depicted in the 60s. It's no surprise that readers like "Johnny Texas" are quick to judge marijuana, and California for that matter. Meanwhile Johnny will go home tonight, drink a sixpack of his favorite light beer, clean his favorite gun and watch his favorite television show that was written and produced in California.
  • Gothamjedi311 \m/ 2009/02/25 00:30:36 (edited)
    Undecided
    Gothamjedi311 \m/
    +2
    Ammiano looked like he knew what he was talking about, I think maybe he's a stoner too. Earing and all. That's all good, I'm not criticizing...but going to the store and gettin' a pack of Acapolco Gold Regulars may be in our near future. stoner earing criticizing store gettin pack acapolco gold regulars future might as well cash in on it.
  • Dweeda 2009/02/25 00:29:31
    It's about time!
    Dweeda
    +1
    Thank you Tom!

    tom
  • Chuck 2009/02/25 00:27:58 (edited)
    Undecided
    Chuck
    +2
    I have two friends that are regular pot users and I know for a fact that their brains are fried! They cannot seem to rationalize anymore for whatever effect the pot has had on them but one thing for certain, I am glad I quit the stuff a number of years ago.



    Likewise, I have several friends that are alcoholics and one of them was a married man with two young boys about 12 and 14 and an absolutely wonderful dedicated wife of whom he would beat the hell out of every time he came home drunk, and that was way too often.



    I like to think that I helped him get over his problem, and I am once again very thankful that I was always able to control it and finally gave it up completely about 4 years ago.



    I don't like the idea of having anything else on the market competing with alcohol but at the same time I am against government intervention into our private lives. We have too many rules and regulations in our private lives and NOT enough regulation and oversight in our government.



    Maybe the best thing to do is to do NOTHING. Don't make it LEGAL but at the same time don't make it illegal. Just leave it to the people to decide for themselves. If they want to use it fine, if they don't then that should also be fine.
  • Randy 2009/02/25 00:22:48
    It's about time!
    Randy
    +2
    I feel this should be done nationally And no I'm not a pot head . Murderers get less time than kids caught with pot and that just isn't right no matter what .
  • bajanba 2009/02/25 00:19:19
    Undecided
    bajanba
    +4
    This is a great way for states to recover from the economic downturn. Consideration could me made for freeing those in prison as a result of personal marijuana use, relieving states of that burden, as well.
  • dico 2009/02/25 00:19:05
    None of the above
    dico
    Cali will legalize weed.. and gay marriage and everything else the left wants.. and everyone will move here that believes in those lifestyles.. and that is great.. all of like mind in one place that has regular earthquakes. i love this idea.. I hope they do it soon!!
  • *~JENNBEAVER~* 2009/02/25 00:11:38
    Undecided
    *~JENNBEAVER~*
    +1
    I mean, this will cut down on the unnecessary possession traffic in court, however, how do they plan on taxing marijuana that is home grown and sold? How do they plan on doing that? I hope Oregon follows suit and does this since we will be starting our gardening business when we get there, I will just start growing weed...damn I will make a fortune! LOL
  • EagleEye 2009/02/25 00:10:45 (edited)
    None of the above
    EagleEye
    +1
    Doesn't matter....Federal law trumps state law....Federal law says it is not legal....case closed as far as state law goes.
  • Roxie 2009/02/25 00:10:20
    None of the above
    Roxie
    +2
    A good source of Tax revenue!
    Make it legal and tax it like tobacco!
    This and Taxing Churchs will make us rich!
  • divajinx 2009/02/25 00:02:56
    This is bad...
    divajinx
    +3
    ...if the governor passes it, then he must be smoking something funky in those cigars of his!

    governor passes smoking funky cigars
  • Gothamj... divajinx 2009/02/25 00:32:59
    Gothamjedi311 \m/
    Gret pic...I'm so proud of you. Well Done...or should I say Baked. : )-
  • divajinx Gothamj... 2009/03/01 18:56:44
    divajinx
    LOL
  • Locksmith 2009/02/24 23:54:41
    It's about time!
    Locksmith
    +1
    I'm sick and tired of having to act like a criminal just because I don't want to drink alcohol and yet still would like something intoxicating during the evenings after a hard day of work.
  • BigwayneO Locksmith 2009/02/25 00:08:06
    BigwayneO
    +1
    no kidding huh, i am a manager of a food joint and that (besides the GF) some nights is the first thing i want to do, (not ever night, and it is not needed, just nice)
  • Locksmith BigwayneO 2009/02/25 00:13:01 (edited)
    Locksmith
    +2
    I can't think of anything more entertaining than smoking a joint while watching Cops

    entertaining smoking joint watching cops
  • BigwayneO Locksmith 2009/02/25 02:38:38
    BigwayneO
    +1
    LOL, i had this one buddy who's father was a cop and smoked with us from time to time, great stuff
  • Zeri 2009/02/24 23:50:23
    It's about time!
    Zeri
    +1
    I guess I'm moving to Cali. : D
  • orickle 2009/02/24 23:49:22
    It's about time!
    orickle
    +1
    legalize it already!
  • JDLogan 2009/02/24 23:44:08
    It's about time!
    JDLogan
    +1
    Now let's get it done in the rest of the country! We can get oil that burns like diesel from the seeds and paper and cloth from the stems, all more environmentally friendly than drilling, soybeans, logging or cotton.
  • Oscar 2009/02/24 23:43:51
    It's about time!
    Oscar
    +1
    It's really a great idea..Honestly As a user of both marijuana and alcohol marijuana HAS BEEN LESS HAZARDOUS to me than alcohol.

    It will also help the economy if we tax and regulate this big time..
  • *Dazzle* 2009/02/24 23:39:44
    It's about time!
    *Dazzle*
    +1
    One state down 49 to go! Finally someone is listening to us. I bet the president could smoke a little and get away with it. Just because hes the president. Everybody system works different. like some people could smoke a whole bunch and not effect them really. and some can't handle it like other people.
    president smoke president works people smoke bunch effect handle people
  • Emily MCRmy [FTDM!!!!] 2009/02/24 23:31:15
    It's about time!
    Emily MCRmy [FTDM!!!!]
    +1
    This is very good.
  • RJ 2009/02/24 23:30:42
  • feretta 2009/02/24 23:27:37 (edited)
    It's about time!
    feretta
    +2
    marijuana does NOT kill

    and neither does homosexuality either, just for the record
  • Tinytim 2009/02/24 23:25:34
    It's about time!
    Tinytim
    +1
    I believe if weed is regulated, the deaths caused by it will be much less than if it is illegal. Also i believe weed related deaths will be much lower than alcohol related.
  • feretta Tinytim 2009/02/24 23:28:29
    feretta
    +1
    no one has ever died from marijuana
  • Tinytim feretta 2009/02/24 23:30:11
    Tinytim
    They have died from their own stupidity, but if our "government" wants to tag marijuana with the cause let it be so i still think the death from alcohol will still be higher
  • feretta Tinytim 2009/02/24 23:33:58 (edited)
    feretta
    people die from stupidity without the help of marijuana, that isnt illegal

    biologically, other than blocking short term memory synapses temporarily and slowing the sperm cells of men during use, there are no negative impacts, even on a fetus in the womb

    trust me, if their were, we would know about it by now
  • Tinytim feretta 2009/02/24 23:36:22
    Tinytim
    I'm not saying that it is marijuana's fault. but our government likes to put the blame on something other than the fact that humans are far from perfect and fuck up quite often. But if they do blame it on marijuana, the rates of death from "marijuana" will be less still
  • feretta Tinytim 2009/02/24 23:39:05
    feretta
    true
  • Nance feretta 2009/02/25 06:37:43
    Nance
    I did not mean a rave for this one.....oh my God. Many people have died. What the fk are you talking about?
  • feretta Nance 2009/02/26 02:27:40
    feretta
    u cant kill a person with weed, its more likely u'd kill his brain tumor or chest cancer than the kill a human with weed alone
  • cccoke 2009/02/24 23:23:35
    It's about time!
    cccoke
    +2
    I wish it was legal everywhere then our jails would have more room for the real criminals instead of pot smokers. The money might even help with the economy :)
  • feretta cccoke 2009/02/24 23:30:15
    feretta
    marijuana, hemp was the number one cash crop in america in the 30's but petro shut it down when ford made a car out of hemp that wouldnt dent even when a bat was taken to it! the car ran on hemp oil too! google that !
  • cccoke feretta 2009/02/24 23:35:07
    cccoke
    Would like to have one of those :)
  • TinyDancer 2009/02/24 23:14:06
    This is bad...
    TinyDancer
    +1
    Yes, alcohol is bad, but marijuana is still worse. While alcohol ruins your internal organs and pickles your body basically it really doesnt kill your brain cells. Marijuana's main ingredient is THC, which is the leading ingredient in acid. this is the same chemical that also causes grey matter to form within the brain as well as holes, from use of acid. marijuana is not something to take lightly... especially since it could be laced with something else.

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