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Could You Vote for a Gay Candidate for President?

SodaHead Politics 2011/02/16 16:00:00
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There are openly gay Democratic members of Congress, but is the GOP ready for its first out and proud presidential candidate? The Washington Post reported this week that little known openly gay Republican Fred Karger, 61, is contemplating a run for the White House and it’s unclear how his potential campaign might be received by his party.

Karger has never held elected office and is thinking about launching his campaign using the money he made as a conservative consultant that helped bring down Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Dukakis in 1988 with the infamous Willie Horton ads and who fought alongside big tobacco in the 1990s to fight against smoking bans in California.

All the while, he attended gay pride parades with one eye over his shoulder on the lookout for cameras, wrote checks to LGBT causes, and, after his retirement at 53, organized a coalition to save a historic bar in his hometown of Laguna Beach and formed a nonprofit to battle California’s Prop 8 same-sex marriage ban.

In that sense, the sometime actor (“Airport 1975,” “Mad Men,” Edge shaving commercials) has some solid conservative bonafides, he’s visited bellwether state New Hampshire more than any other potential candidate and wants to be a role model to gay youth as the first ever openly gay major party presidential candidate. No one has declared their intention to run yet, but Karger has already started burning through is retirement money at a $20,000-$30,000-a-month clip, spending much of it on Frisbees and T-shirts that read “FRED WHO?”

His platform is a bit thin at this point, consisting of lowering the voting age, education reform to make school “more interesting” and a unique lane as a pro-choice, antiwar compromiser in the mold of Teddy Roosevelt. He seems realistic about his chances, but, like Rep. Ron Paul in 2008, he thinks he might be able to “crash the party” and at least challenge the other candidates on their gay rights views.

In fact, his work on the attempted Prop 8 defeat is partly the impetus for the potential presidential run, since the repeal effort on the bill will likely peak in late 2011, just as he’s already set down roots in New Hampshire and, hopefully, made inroads there with voters.

One of the biggest problems, though, according to the Post, is when he’s asked about things like balancing the budget, Karger “smiles and steers the subject back to gay marriage … When people ask him how he'd fix health care, he says ‘I still need to look into it.’”

Could you vote for a gay presidential candidate?
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  • theiceman 2011/02/16 16:32:08
    Yes
    theiceman
    +16
    after 54% of the country voted for an inexperienced moron with no paper trail I can't believe SH would even post this

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  • Forest 2011/02/17 14:51:05 (edited)
    Yes
    Forest
    Given our previous presidents. Homosexuality, lieing, adultry, Theft. all are sin. Unless we find someone actually honest, of good repute and honorable. I dont see a difference.
  • patti 2011/02/17 14:50:06
    Yes
    patti
    I really don't care who or what you boff-as long as its not a kid or animal, and I don't have to see or hear about it. If you can fix this F*cked up mess of an economy and do something about those A$$holes that attacked Lara Logan, help us get back to being who we really are, you can be gay all day. Actually, you can anyway, its none of my biz!!!
  • rustyshackelford 2011/02/17 14:48:21
  • Dilbert 2011/02/17 14:34:37
    No
    Dilbert
    +5
    I think this choice of lifestyle is wrong. I would not vote for an openly homosexual (gay means happy) candidate. The same way I would not vote for a murderer, child molester, adulter, rapist, etc.
  • santana... Dilbert 2011/02/17 14:42:19
    santanasmooth
    totally not the same thing if you think they are your a moron
  • Glory santana... 2011/02/17 17:08:15
    Glory
    sorry but you win the title..... sin is sin
  • Forest Dilbert 2011/02/17 14:52:22
    Forest
    +1
    Clinton was a adulterer. Obama is a liar. Sin is Sin, No one worse or better than another.
  • beachangel Dilbert 2011/02/17 15:01:15
    beachangel
    +2
    IT IS NOT A CHOICE PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Michael... beachangel 2011/02/17 15:44:36
    MichaelWolfgang
    neither is child molesting~ lmao
  • Goomba74 beachangel 2011/02/17 15:46:42
    Goomba74
    Yes, it is.
  • Thomas 45 2011/02/17 14:33:56
    No
    Thomas 45
    +2
    That isn't what we need in a leader, BHO is and look at the mess we have!
  • Dilbert Thomas 45 2011/02/17 14:35:42
    Dilbert
    +2
    Who thought we would see the day in this country that we have a homosexual, islamic nut job, Curious George looking tyrrancial dictator in the Whitehouse. God help us.
  • Glory Dilbert 2011/02/17 17:11:03
    Glory
    GODS trying but HE gave us freewill and HE won't go against it we need to repent
    "if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land."
    2 Chronicles 7:14
  • pepper5419 2011/02/17 14:25:50
    Undecided
    pepper5419
    +2
    Lately American voters are the ones that are getting bent over.
  • Pet Roc... pepper5419 2011/02/20 07:19:11
    Pet Rock Whisperer
    LMAO No doubt....in sand!
  • Depsycho 2011/02/17 14:24:56
    Yes
    Depsycho
    Sexual preference has nothing to do with the goddamn candidates. How much you want to bet we've had closet-homosexuals in office before anyway?
  • "Silence! I kill you!" 2011/02/17 14:18:05
    Undecided
    "Silence! I kill you!"
    I don't vote
  • elizabeth 2011/02/17 14:11:33
    Yes
    elizabeth
    +3
    Sexual Orientation is not my concern. What someone does in the bedroom with another adult is private..
  • Dilbert elizabeth 2011/02/17 14:37:52
    Dilbert
    +4
    The only problem with that is that many people who chose the homosexual lifestyle want to force it down on everybody else, have it taught in the schools, outlaw the clergy from preaching against it. Who is to say that somebody who chooses the homosexual lifestyle would not use the presidency to do just this? We have an islamic nut job in the Whitehouse who is helping to get Sharia law implemented in this country. We would trade one satanic SOB for another in this case.
  • beachangel Dilbert 2011/02/17 15:04:01
    beachangel
    once again..being gay is not a choice. Who in their right mind would want to be subjected to the harassment,shame,etc? I have a gay son and HE WAS BORN THAT WAY! WHO AM I TO QUESTION IT? GOD MADE HIM!!
  • Headhunter 13 2011/02/17 14:05:05
    Yes
    Headhunter 13
    Sure he/she could be better than the last 2 idiots we have had
  • Preplovesyou 2011/02/17 14:03:48
    Yes
    Preplovesyou
    Who cares what his sexual orientation is. If he can stimulate the economy and all the other problems we have going on, you've got my vote.
  • lucky 2011/02/17 13:56:55
    Undecided
    lucky
    Depends on what kind of gay they are. Id probably consider Karger based on the issues but there are some i would not consider for any reason.
  • Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 13:33:42
    No
    Ssgtwaldo
    +5
    Deviance should be against the law. Deviants should not be allowed anywhere near a school or children.. Sexual deviance is an abomination before my God and before man...
    law deviants allowed school children sexual deviance abomination god sexual deviance law deviants allowed school children sexual deviance abomination god sexual deviance

    This ought to be good!
  • JWoods0417 Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 13:58:16
    JWoods0417
    Whoa dude. Intense. You must be a saint.
  • Ssgtwaldo JWoods0417 2011/02/17 14:03:59
    Ssgtwaldo
    +2
    Opinions vary.....
  • Tom Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 14:12:01
    Tom
    +3
    YOU!!!... should not be so hard on yourself. My guess is God would have absolutely NOTHING to do with a degenerate such as you. You are probably the lowest life form in your zip code.
  • Ssgtwaldo Tom 2011/02/17 14:46:07
    Ssgtwaldo
    +1
    Like I said, opinions vary. You deviants (?) are a trip!
  • santana... Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 14:44:55
    santanasmooth
    +4
    Being gay and sexual deviance are two different issues. , 95 percent of child molesters are straight. religion in the hands of the uneducated is dangerous..
  • Ssgtwaldo santana... 2011/02/17 15:17:19
    Ssgtwaldo
    +1
    Sexual deviance by definition is deviating from the sexual norm. Deviance is not normal as much as your propaganda machine would like us to think it is normal...

    The word "gay" means a happy person or persons. It was hijacked to mean something it does not. Deviance is the proper term....

    "Sexual deviance, and what is defined as sexually deviant, is culturally and historically specific. This concept refers to behaviors that involve individuals seeking erotic gratification through means that are considered odd, different, or unacceptable to either most or influential persons in one's community. As with most forms of deviance, sexual deviance is something that is defined differently by persons of different backgrounds, beliefs, morals, and locations. However, sexual deviance is also an idea about which most persons hold very strong views, and react in stigmatizing and ostracizing ways. Sexual deviance is a term that refers to behavior that has a sexual aspect to it and is considered a violation of either general societal norms or the expectations and/or limits of behavior for specific cultural settings. Defining some sexually oriented behavior as deviant means that the action meets at least one (or a combination) of four criteria: (1) degree of consent, (2) the nature of the perso...
    Sexual deviance by definition is deviating from the sexual norm. Deviance is not normal as much as your propaganda machine would like us to think it is normal...

    The word "gay" means a happy person or persons. It was hijacked to mean something it does not. Deviance is the proper term....

    "Sexual deviance, and what is defined as sexually deviant, is culturally and historically specific. This concept refers to behaviors that involve individuals seeking erotic gratification through means that are considered odd, different, or unacceptable to either most or influential persons in one's community. As with most forms of deviance, sexual deviance is something that is defined differently by persons of different backgrounds, beliefs, morals, and locations. However, sexual deviance is also an idea about which most persons hold very strong views, and react in stigmatizing and ostracizing ways. Sexual deviance is a term that refers to behavior that has a sexual aspect to it and is considered a violation of either general societal norms or the expectations and/or limits of behavior for specific cultural settings. Defining some sexually oriented behavior as deviant means that the action meets at least one (or a combination) of four criteria: (1) degree of consent, (2) the nature of the persons/objects involved in the action, (3) the actual action and body parts involved, or (4) the setting in which the behavior is performed. Generally speaking, sexual behavior that is not fully consensual by all persons involved is considered deviant. Rape and exhibitionism (where the persons to whom sexual images are presented are unwilling recipients) are obvious examples of sexual deviance"....
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  • Glory santana... 2011/02/17 17:15:58
    Glory
    religion is manmade, men are GOD made. GOD does not agree with you, or the phoney trumped up manmade polls/statistics you people are fond of creating
  • Forest Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 14:54:04
    Forest
    I agree. But 2nd Samuel states that in Gods view, Stubborness is equal to Idolatry.
  • Ssgtwaldo Forest 2011/02/17 14:57:30
    Ssgtwaldo
    And?
  • Glory Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/17 17:13:43
    Glory
    lets you see the slice of life our country represents... to us and to other countries, we are headed for hell in a fastmoving handbasket jump while you still can...
  • K Ssgtwaldo 2011/02/18 03:27:11
    K
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHH hilarious.
  • activ1 2011/02/17 13:32:01
    Yes
    activ1
    +1
    Just as with religion, sexual orientation should not be a litmus test for serving as POTUS.
  • Ldude893 2011/02/17 13:22:14
    Yes
    Ldude893
    If I was a citizen of the United States, I would consider it. Of course, I wouldn't vote for a president just because of his sexuality.
  • ToddBHarris 2011/02/17 12:54:53
  • JWoods0417 ToddBHa... 2011/02/17 13:58:42 (edited)
    JWoods0417
    Coming from the man with a rainbow on his t-shirt.
  • Tom JWoods0417 2011/02/17 14:22:26
    Tom
    +1
    He's gay!... usually when a man attacks homosexuality with such venom, they are a self hating homosexual.

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