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Could You Vote for a Gay Candidate for President?

SodaHead Politics 2011/02/16 16:00:00
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There are openly gay Democratic members of Congress, but is the GOP ready for its first out and proud presidential candidate? The Washington Post reported this week that little known openly gay Republican Fred Karger, 61, is contemplating a run for the White House and it’s unclear how his potential campaign might be received by his party.

Karger has never held elected office and is thinking about launching his campaign using the money he made as a conservative consultant that helped bring down Democratic presidential hopeful Michael Dukakis in 1988 with the infamous Willie Horton ads and who fought alongside big tobacco in the 1990s to fight against smoking bans in California.

All the while, he attended gay pride parades with one eye over his shoulder on the lookout for cameras, wrote checks to LGBT causes, and, after his retirement at 53, organized a coalition to save a historic bar in his hometown of Laguna Beach and formed a nonprofit to battle California’s Prop 8 same-sex marriage ban.

In that sense, the sometime actor (“Airport 1975,” “Mad Men,” Edge shaving commercials) has some solid conservative bonafides, he’s visited bellwether state New Hampshire more than any other potential candidate and wants to be a role model to gay youth as the first ever openly gay major party presidential candidate. No one has declared their intention to run yet, but Karger has already started burning through is retirement money at a $20,000-$30,000-a-month clip, spending much of it on Frisbees and T-shirts that read “FRED WHO?”

His platform is a bit thin at this point, consisting of lowering the voting age, education reform to make school “more interesting” and a unique lane as a pro-choice, antiwar compromiser in the mold of Teddy Roosevelt. He seems realistic about his chances, but, like Rep. Ron Paul in 2008, he thinks he might be able to “crash the party” and at least challenge the other candidates on their gay rights views.

In fact, his work on the attempted Prop 8 defeat is partly the impetus for the potential presidential run, since the repeal effort on the bill will likely peak in late 2011, just as he’s already set down roots in New Hampshire and, hopefully, made inroads there with voters.

One of the biggest problems, though, according to the Post, is when he’s asked about things like balancing the budget, Karger “smiles and steers the subject back to gay marriage … When people ask him how he'd fix health care, he says ‘I still need to look into it.’”

Could you vote for a gay presidential candidate?
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  • theiceman 2011/02/16 16:32:08
    Yes
    theiceman
    +16
    after 54% of the country voted for an inexperienced moron with no paper trail I can't believe SH would even post this

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  • OPen Minded 2013/03/08 07:36:20
    Yes
    OPen Minded
    If he was the best candidate running.

    Not BECAUSE he is gay. That's none of my business.
  • Car1u5 2013/03/07 20:16:34
    Undecided
    Car1u5
    maybe
  • wildcat 2013/03/07 04:55:27
    Yes
    wildcat
    May have and not known it
  • NINsanity! (Auflösung) 2013/03/07 02:32:29
  • Dale 2013/03/07 00:00:13
    No
    Dale
    Due to my moral standards, no I can't and I wouldn't
  • Trish 2013/03/06 22:47:55
    Yes
    Trish
    But I wont.
  • Sylvanas 2011/03/10 10:31:02
    Yes
    Sylvanas
    wait, ppl actually said no??
  • ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Ant... 2011/03/08 05:58:12
    Undecided
    ~Pro-Fetus Anti-Liberal Anti-Atheist~
    Would they be running against Obama? If so, then of course!!!
  • buckmastr 2011/03/08 02:28:37
    Yes
    buckmastr
    Sure, if his/her beliefs and voting record were in line with mine.
  • Taylor 2011/03/04 02:30:23
    Yes
    Taylor
    I could, but that doesn't mean i necessarily would.

    I wouldn't vote because he/she is gay i would vote if he/she was the better candidate.
  • KRISTA!! 2011/03/03 01:35:17
  • Constitution Believer 2011/02/24 02:47:08
    No
    Constitution Believer
    as of today we may not have a choice...
    According to the CBS news the gays can just about do everything they want.
  • CRStar 2011/02/23 15:47:03
    No
    CRStar
    Never.
  • greyjack CRStar 2011/02/23 19:11:00
    greyjack
    why is that?
  • Brandon 2011/02/22 17:43:11
    Yes
    Brandon
    Homosexuality isn't my cup of tea, but if the man stood to help the country, I don't see why not.
  • Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012* 2011/02/22 03:02:03
    Yes
    Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012*
    Yeah because I don't hate myself like many of those homophobes seem to...
  • Hellingame 2011/02/21 01:29:42
    Yes
    Hellingame
    As long as he doesn't repress straight people (which I highly doubt), that's fine!
    Personally, my general rule is: "Do whatever you want, and let others do whatever they want."
    As long as no boundaries ar crossed.
  • 12345678910 2011/02/20 03:27:29
    No
    12345678910
  • greyjack 1234567... 2011/02/23 19:11:24
    greyjack
    why not?
  • Shark 2011/02/19 21:29:55
    No
    Shark
    +2
    But, not because they are gay, but because they would be flaunting their sexual preferences as their agenda.
    Gay is not a religion or a political statement or post to run for anything. Gay is "What Kind Of Sex a Person Prefers". I don't want to know about your sexual choices as much as you don't want to know about mine. When people finally wake up and face the facts of their actions and abuse of the labels they so dearly endorse, the whole Gay situation will just fall in line with the rest of the world and will stop trying to parade on like it should always be adorned with a tiara and applause.
  • Taylor Shark 2011/03/04 02:32:34
    Taylor
    +1
    what if it was a gay person who wasn't flaunting their sexuality or using it for their campaign. If they said they are for gay rights but didn't parade around saying hey im gay. Not a gay candidate but a candidate who happens to be gay?
  • Shark Taylor 2011/03/04 07:20:45
    Shark
    Then that would be a description of a normal ordinary human being. Making it a point to force ones sexual proclivities onto others is what is exactly wrong wit the gay movement.
    Unfortunately way too many would make this situation their platform to express their sexual desires.
  • Laja 2011/02/19 19:30:59
    Yes
    Laja
    +1
    As long as the candidate is otherwise qualified, who cares who they are sleeping with. As long as they are not making a public spectacle of them self.
  • Yosefa 2011/02/19 16:49:07
    Yes
    Yosefa
    I would if they were the best choice to lead our country. As to the many comments about them not being a Christian and not being G-d fearing......... all I have to say to that is Separation of Church and State. As a Jew I don't want someone telling me I don't have any morals or that I am going to hell for not believing in Jesus, don't tell them that they are going to hell for loving another man, or another woman. It is not a choice, you are born heterosexual or homosexual. I have a lot of friends who I watched struggle to deal with the fact that they were gay. If most of them had a choice, they wouldn't be. I am not saying that holds true for all homosexuals, just the ones in my life.
  • Isma'ila (God has heard)! 2011/02/18 06:26:26
    Undecided
    Isma'ila (God has heard)!
    I do not know at this time whether I would or not. It would depend on policy.
  • Asa Ramasun 2011/02/18 05:43:44
    Undecided
    Asa Ramasun
    +1
    I don't want anyone to run on a platform of being the "first (fill in the blank) candidate." That isn't a platform at all. I vote based on my beliefs and value system and the candidates credentials. Do they have a sound fiscal plan? Does they represent American values? Can they deal with foreign policy in a way that makes America stronger?

    To be honest, I don't think I would support a gay candidate unless I felt that they were able to serve without making gay rights and the gay agenda the total focus of their presidency. I'm not sure that's possible.
  • TruBluTopaz 2011/02/18 04:37:03
    Yes
    TruBluTopaz
    Right now, I would vote for anyone willing to impose term limits, economic spending limits and illegal immigration limits no matter what their private preferences might be.
  • K 2011/02/18 03:17:42
    Yes
    K
    +4
    Whoever cant is a homophobe.
  • Ianstan... K 2011/02/22 03:03:09
    Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012*
    +1
    And therefore most likely very deep in their own closet of self-hate...
  • K Ianstan... 2011/02/22 03:13:09
    K
    +1
    The most outspoken of haters are usually the most insecure. Closet is right.
  • Ianstan... K 2011/02/22 03:13:48
    Ianstan BN-0 *Obama2012*
    Lots of 'em on this site
  • K Ianstan... 2011/02/22 16:49:36
    K
    +1
    Agreed.
  • Constit... K 2011/02/24 03:08:01
    Constitution Believer
    You know calling someone a homophobe is serious...ever stop to think that maybe the person dont like the gay person and not because he is gay?
    NO all someone has to do is say something negative and automatically that person is either a RACIST, HOMOPHOB or someother dumb assed thing.
    If I don't like someone I DON'T LIKE SOMEONE I personally dont give a damn if your gay or straight, guy or gal, catholic or baptist...what you do with your life is your business but when you start pushing your beliefs on to me with that IN YOUR FACE ATTITUDE...sorry there "K" but I tend to get a little pissed.
    I have black friends, I have hispanic friends, I have gay friends and I even have arab friends....I say RESPECT ME AND I WILL RESPECT YOU...I CAN BE YOUR BEST FRIEND OR I CAN BE YOUR WORST ENEMY TAKE YOUR PICK.
  • K Constit... 2011/02/24 05:16:14
    K
    The question says, "Could you vote for a gay president?'' Someone who cant vote for a person simply because he/she is gay...is either a homophobe, a bigot, or both. Period.

    I would have no issue if a person didnt like this man based on his character, but the question is based on his sexuality. The question is asking if his sexuality would keep you from voting for him. If you respond that, no, you would not vote for him based upon his sexuality...then you, sir, are a homophobe, or a bigot, or both. Period.

    Now, if the question said would you vote for this man as president? If not, why not? And you gave a legitimate reason such as his policies, then I have no problem with that. But when people refuse to vote for someone simply because he is gay...thats homophobic, bigoted, or both.
  • Constit... K 2011/02/24 18:00:16
    Constitution Believer
    People are labeling and profiling far to much lately.

    If the person is gay KEEP IT IN THE CLOSET...being open about it just makes things worst...Just like in the military DON'T ASK DON'T TELL.

    Maybe I would vote for him because he is gay maybe I would not because he is gay...I didnt vote for Oburkle and have been labeled a RACIST because I don't support him. And it is as clear as day he is an arrogant ass..

    So the next one openely admits that HE IS GAY .... i don't vote for him because I don't believe in what he stands for...does that make me a HOMOPHOB?

    NO IT IS WHAT HE STANDS FOR....maybe I vote against him because of the party he represents....I am a conservative...

    Lets say this gay guy is a conservative....and he openly admits he is gay ... I personally don't like gays, but that is a personal thing. I suppose because of this I am no a homophob?

    Come on LABELS SUCK (pardon the paraphrase) AND IT IS NOT RIGHT THAT PEOPLE SHOULD CARRY LABELS AROUND ALL THE TIME....
  • K Constit... 2011/02/25 00:37:55
    K
    So he should stay in the closet? Never have a partner that he can go out in public with. Never be able to have children, never be able to be truthful to himself? Yeah, that will make things easier...it was real easy for Clinton to "keep it in the closet" so to speak. Are you mental?

    If you didnt vote for Obama simply because he is a black man, that makes you racist. If you didnt vote for him because of his policies, thats an actual reason.

    If you agree with a gay man's policies, think he will do a good job running the country, and still dont vote for him because he is gay, then you are a homophobe...pure and simple. If you dont vote for him because of his policies...again, thats a legitimate reason, but refusing to vote for someone based on race, sexual orientation, gender...these are all bigoted reasons not to vote for a person.

    "Gay" is not a label, its just how it is. Could you imagine if this man got elected president while still in the closet and then the right found out that he was gay?
  • babaji5150~solo 2011/02/18 02:16:05
  • Ianstan... babaji5... 2011/02/22 17:44:23
  • babaji5... Ianstan... 2011/02/22 17:48:17
  • Ianstan... babaji5... 2011/02/22 19:41:58
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