Could Stricter Gun Control Laws Have Prevented the Arizona Shootings?
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2011/01/10 13:00:00
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Newly minted Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) condemns the tragic shootings in Arizona over the weekend, but says we shouldn’t be too quick to blame gun control laws for the actions of one disturbed individual.
Rand spoke with Bret Baier on Fox News Sunday:
BAIER: “Senator Paul, Arizona is one of three states where you can carry a concealed weapon without a permit – Alaska and Vermont are the other two – is that at all in jeopardy do you think?”
PAUL: “No, I don’t think so. And interestingly, you know, Representative Giffords was a defender of the 2nd Amendment – is a defender of the 2nd Amendment – so no, I don’t think that plays into this at all. And really I think they’re unrelated.
“It’s probably about a very sick individual and what should have been done for that person. But the weapons don't kill people, it's the individual that kills – that killed these people.”
You can watch the video here:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/rand-paul-shooting-...
Rand spoke with Bret Baier on Fox News Sunday:
BAIER: “Senator Paul, Arizona is one of three states where you can carry a concealed weapon without a permit – Alaska and Vermont are the other two – is that at all in jeopardy do you think?”
PAUL: “No, I don’t think so. And interestingly, you know, Representative Giffords was a defender of the 2nd Amendment – is a defender of the 2nd Amendment – so no, I don’t think that plays into this at all. And really I think they’re unrelated.
“It’s probably about a very sick individual and what should have been done for that person. But the weapons don't kill people, it's the individual that kills – that killed these people.”
You can watch the video here:
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/rand-paul-shooting-...
Read More: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/rand-pa...
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mac -Holding Fast 2011/01/10 13:54:41No
+18Stricter gun laws didn't stop the DC sniper in the middle of the most gun-restrictive city in America. Just saying.
Now here is a challenge to all you readers: Please construct a "Gun Control" law that would have prevented this man's actions. Explain in a rational manner how it would have mitigated his violent behavior?
At the shopping center where the event was taking place their were it was reported hundreds of people that were present at this political event that was taking place at this shopping center.
So my question is,.... How come all of those people that were present at this event did not pull out their concealed weapon, and shoot the bad guy before he could do so much damage?
The reason for this concealed weapon's law in Arizona was so that the good guys could get the drop on the bad guys and kill this bad guy before he can do any damage!
It seems to me that the "Concealed Weapons Law," doesn't amount to a "hill of beans," because this population at this event that numbered in the hundreds seemed to be at the mercy of this bad guy, that did his worst and was not prevented from doing so, by a population that had the right to carry a concealed weapon, and because most of the Arizona population caries a concealed weapon without needing to get a permit to do so! they still were at this particular political rally, not able to protect themselves.
The way I see it, the concealed gun law should be repealed because it is not effective in doing what it is advertised to do!
Even stupid people know that when you have "HUNDREDS, of people in a pistol toting state, where the majority of the population are carrying their concealed weapon on their person because it is legal to do so, so they did so, and despite all of those "Annie Oaklies" and "Wild Bill Hickocks" among those HUNDREDS almost a thousand of people at that political event, not one out of almost one thousand people at that event could get off one lousy shot, before the killer was able to shoot off an entire clip of 35 bullets into the victims at the political rally inside the shopping center.
The rationalization for enacting the law that allows the population of Arizona to carry concealed weapons, without having to get a permit to do so, was that if the population of the state was "CARRYING" that the criminal types would not feel safe to commit crimes, in the state of Arizona, because of the abject fear of the armed population!
It appears that the arming of the population in this particular case did not work.
I question if it will ever work, because people generally don't like to "KILL" other people.
Even when the subject to be killed is a real bad guy!
I think just the opposite that you do. I think this should serve as an example of WHY we have the concealed weapons laws, and it should be a reminder to people to carry their weapons at all times.
The excuse that the general population needs to be armed to protect us from the government, is an excuse that the paranoid "RIGHT WINGERS" use, because they believe that "the government is out to get us, and we must be armed to protect us from the government!"
The constitution does not give the permission for the general population to be armed so that they can overthrow the government, despite what the idiot Right Wingers say.
If the time comes when the government truly becomes a threat to the general population, their are plenty of gun runners in the world that will gladly take your money and supply you with what you need to overthrow the government. But don't expect the government to assist you in this enterprise of government overthrow.
And get over the crazy idea that the "Constitution" allows for State Militias, or Private Militias to overthrow the Federal Government!
Their are at the present time enough crazies in America, that have as a trusted friend. the powerful "American Gun Lobby" that appear to be working against the american people, so that they can make for their clients blood money, by cuddling up to the paranoid "Right Wing" Militia Movement, and making them crazier than they already are!
Perhaps, you remember that old expression... "If guns are criminalized, only criminals will have guns!"
The Declaration of Independence, serves and reminds us as citizens, today!
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
With this, as our directive to maintain... giving up our arms, seems rather counter-productive, to doing so, if needed?
The Constitution... Bill of Rights
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
They're not specifying military, or government employee's, only? "The people"
"Militia," appears to be a gray area, between states and feds, regarding employment in the service of?
Clearly, the citizens are granted the liberty to possess and "Bear" arms. It's not difficult to imagine why?
You will never succeed in disarming the nation.
And who said anything about overthrowing the government? The "Right Wing" that you have pegged so wrongly, has access to as many guns as they want, lawful or unlawful. Your gun control laws will work about as well as prohibition did.
The second amendment talks about the right to bear arms as a last line of defense regardless of who the intruders are.
Your generalizing the "Right Wing" as you do is ignorance.
Your talking about the extremists and throwing the whole lot of us in with them....
Your general response is typical physco babble from a leftwinger that believes the government is the end all to every problem in America.
It wasnt and isnt the government that makes America great, it always was and always will be the people. Us "Right Wingers" have faith and confidence in the American people, and believe the government has greatly overreached its bounds. The government needs to butt out, as most of our problems can be solved via American people and free enterprise.
You know the Tea Party had nothing to do with this. Is your leftist agenda so weak that it can't stand on truths and you have to purport such BS?