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96 percent of black voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. Some black Christian leaders want to change that in 2012. They believe that Obama's pro-gay policies -- mainly his support of gay marriage -- will cost Obama some support from the black, Christian community.

Bishop E. W. Jackson Sr., president of the group Staying True to America’s National Destiny (STAND) started the "Exodus Now" effort to encourage blacks to leave the Democratic party. "It is time for black Christians to have the faith and courage to refuse to associate with the Democratic Party that has become anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-Church, anti-Bible, anti-life, anti-family and anti-God,” said Bishop Jackson.

Bishop Jackson added, "...The Democratic Party has shown itself to be so inimical to the biblical values of Christians and Jews that it is time for a mass exodus. The Democratic Party has turned its back on us, it’s time to turn our back on them."

The National Urban League published a report called, “The Hidden Swing Voters: Impact of African-Americans in 2012.” The report suggests that Obama will lose re-election if only 60% of blacks turnout in 2012 -- the same amount that turned out in the 2004 presidential election, which George W. Bush won.



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  • Jean 2012/09/21 14:39:46
    Yes
    Jean
    +15
    The reason that the gay-marriage initiative in CA went down in flames in 2008 wasn't because of the Mormon vote - it was because of the black voter turnout. Obama has opened the door to his defeat - and also his potential "outing": http://tinyurl.com/obamasgaylife

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  • lovemyk... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 16:54:31
    lovemykiddos
    +1
    I agree with you I don't think you can make broad generalizations is it true howeber that some will vote for Obama based on race alone the answer is yes however it's as blind to do that as people who vote based on party affiliation alone and that happens every election.
  • Mikado ... lovemyk... 2012/09/23 17:02:07
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +3
    i honestly feel sorry for any one who votes blindly based on such meaningless things as skin color, OR based on a blind faith in any political party. If you take history classes in USA then you find quickly that the democrat and republican parties have swapped their ideals many times.

    Especially to any one who was declare them selves to care about their country, to be 'patriotic'.. the worst possible thing to do would be to vote with eyes and mind closed.
  • Constit... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 19:16:01
    Constitution Believer
    +1
    Why not IT IS TRUE.
    Just mingle with others and listen to them without you making a comment and you will see just how many are going to put him back in the White house based on the color of his skin.
    THAT alone is disgusting...............but sadly my suggestion will go un heeded.
  • lovemyk... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 19:35:24
    lovemykiddos
    +2
    Yep but unfortunately even with all the resources we have at our hands today i.e. social media, television, radio, and newpapers most voters don't invest the time in knowing what they need to know when voting and instead relay on less credible forms of information like skin color, political party affiliation, and word of mouth. I want to be an optimist and believe this is a small minority of people but I fear that it's not.
  • Mikado ... lovemyk... 2012/09/23 19:43:50
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +1
    Before i was spending much time online, before i came to live in USA, even though i was involved in a horrible time in mai life i still believed that most people were basically good, that elders were wise, and that wisdom would guide the leaders to govern the nation safely.

    But now in USA, every thing has changed. And there is a definite battle, online, this thread is a good example.. of truth versus lies, of good versus evil, and wisdom versus stupidity.

    Stupidity screams louder and much more often..
    but the truth is still there for those who care enough to look for it.

    i still believe in good, and in wisdom. i still have hope.
    But i seem to be a minority in that belief too, just as i am a minority in USA.
  • lovemyk... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 19:50:17
    lovemykiddos
    Keep the hope and the faith I believe that people are inherrently good and I will always believe this.
  • Mikado ... lovemyk... 2012/09/23 19:59:48
    Mikado Hikyuu
    i no longer believe that people are inherently good. i believe that in our hearts and minds we are inherently free - to choose each day, each moment, if we will be good, think good, do good, or if we will choose evil.

    When the internet provides a mask to hide the identity of the person, many many people choose evil - because that is what they have in their heart and mind.

    They literally lie in wait to deceive, they intend to do harm, to mislead, to injure.. They are the real monsters, pretending to be people in realspace, but here in virtuality they proudly show us the ugliness in their souls.
  • CHUCK -... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 18:12:52
    CHUCK - Liberal in Seattle
    +2
    You go girl!
  • Constit... CUDDLY ... 2012/09/23 15:49:42
    Constitution Believer
    +3
    I am almost to the point that I believe this young lady has less intelligence then my pet rock 'MIKE'
  • CUDDLY ... Constit... 2012/09/23 16:14:59
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    Yep.
  • Constit... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 15:46:43
    Constitution Believer
    +2
    That same question can be asked of your people....HOW MANY ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA JUST BECAUSE HE IT BLACKS....and how many whites are voting for him?
    How many blacks are going to be voting for ROMNEY?

    Just the other day on the Television there were some questions asked from the MAN ON THE STREET....who are you voting for in the November elections. And I was totally shocked as was others that viewed this when several blacks came up with the remark....WE ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK AND BECAUSE THE "WHITEY" ROMNEY WILL MAKE US DO THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO DO. When the reporter asked what that was they replied, and this is what shocked the hell out of a lot....HE (ROMNEY) WILL TAKE OUR WELFARE AWAY AND MAKE US GET JOBS.

    Now sweetie, as for racism needing to end with our generation ..... I totally agree but it is YOUR GENERATION THAT NEEDS TO QUIT COPING AN ATTITUDE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT LIVE IN A LAND FILLED WITH MILK AND HONEY....in order to live the American Dream you need to BUST YOUR ASS TO MAKE THAT AMERICAN DREAM COME TRUE....and most of all QUIT WITH THE GOD DAMNED BLAME GAME.....you are no different then any other human. You cut your self your blood is just as red as my blood and when you have an operation and they open you up you have a heart, liver, spleen, and intes...
    That same question can be asked of your people....HOW MANY ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA JUST BECAUSE HE IT BLACKS....and how many whites are voting for him?
    How many blacks are going to be voting for ROMNEY?

    Just the other day on the Television there were some questions asked from the MAN ON THE STREET....who are you voting for in the November elections. And I was totally shocked as was others that viewed this when several blacks came up with the remark....WE ARE VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK AND BECAUSE THE "WHITEY" ROMNEY WILL MAKE US DO THINGS WE DON'T WANT TO DO. When the reporter asked what that was they replied, and this is what shocked the hell out of a lot....HE (ROMNEY) WILL TAKE OUR WELFARE AWAY AND MAKE US GET JOBS.

    Now sweetie, as for racism needing to end with our generation ..... I totally agree but it is YOUR GENERATION THAT NEEDS TO QUIT COPING AN ATTITUDE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT LIVE IN A LAND FILLED WITH MILK AND HONEY....in order to live the American Dream you need to BUST YOUR ASS TO MAKE THAT AMERICAN DREAM COME TRUE....and most of all QUIT WITH THE GOD DAMNED BLAME GAME.....you are no different then any other human. You cut your self your blood is just as red as my blood and when you have an operation and they open you up you have a heart, liver, spleen, and intestine and a stomach just like I do.
    So let's not go on the RACE BLAME THING....BECAUSE I, AS A NATIVE AMERICAN AM MORE OF A MINORITY THEY YOU AND OTHER BLACKS ARE...AND WE ARE MORE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THEN YOU ARE...the only thing is what we do is never seen by the media and we don't hold our babies up infront of a camera and demand the "whites" give formula and diapers after a bad storm.
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  • Mikado ... Constit... 2012/09/23 16:06:45
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +3
    i am not the one who suffers from racist stupidity, and i am not the one who has been writing racist filth in the thread. You and your friend have, and you made complete fools of your selves, and now you wish to accuse me of your stupidity.

    It was your friend of the moment, CRABBY, who claimed twice that black people were going to vote for president Obama simply because he was black, so i reversed the color and wrote it back to him as a question - i asked him if he was equally stupid enough to assume that all white people would be voting for Mr, Romney simply because he is white?

    And you read through it too quickly, and again jumped to the wrong assumption, just as you did when you thought i was black.

    i have an AA degree and i am working, but prices are too high because the cost of deregulated oil is so high that gas costs too much, that shipping of goods to market cost too much, so In this land Milk costs almost 3USD for 2% and i have no idea how the honey tastes because i cannot afford it.

    You have proven once again that you are either not bothering to read before you write, or that you have a reading comprehension problem - or perhaps you simply rather guess instead of taking the risk that you might actually be misinformed and wrong in your racism.
  • Constit... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 19:18:40
    Constitution Believer
    +1
    please don't respond to my posts any more ......................... if anyone is a racist you are................YOU AND YOUR MORON FRIEND CHUCK FAILED TO READ THAT I AM NOT A WHITE MAN BUT A NATIVE AMERICAN...YOU WERE RACIALLY BIAS TO ME NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.....
  • Mindi Mikado ... 2012/09/23 20:53:59
    Mindi
    It was Clinton that deregulated the oil companies, stating that competition would keep prices down. It had been 87 cents a gallon since the second year of Ronald Reagan's first term, down from 1.45 with Jimmy Carter, and I believe oil prices tripling and there being no jobs and no recovery and no end in sight will be Obama's swan song.
  • Mikado ... Mindi 2012/09/23 21:01:19
    Mikado Hikyuu
    The truth is that America could have come out from under the yoke of foreign oil and big oil company control 50 years ago. Ron Paul explained it very well. It was actually the two wars that President Bush took America into under false pretenses, looking for WMDs in Iraq and Afghanistan that gave the oil companies the excuse to raise the price of oil and simply never take it back down.

    USA could have completely converted to natural gas by now.. which party was lobbying the hardest to keep America the slaves of the big oil companies?
  • MayLin Mikado ... 2012/09/23 18:32:29
  • Mikado ... MayLin 2012/09/23 18:36:46
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +1
    m(._.)mアリガト you are very kind.
  • MayLin Mikado ... 2012/09/23 18:42:39
    MayLin
    +1
    あなたは非常に歓迎されている You are very welcome and very wise!
  • Constit... Mikado ... 2012/09/23 15:24:14
    Constitution Believer
    +3
    What is it with you blacks?
    All y'all think you are god's gift to the human race...and your reasons, I have to laugh at them.
    What happened to the blacks during the mid 1800's IS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.
    You got used to getting things for free. On the plantations did not the plantation owners give you free housing? The way you kept them was YOUR fault, did not the plantation owners give you free food? How and who you feed with YOUR fault, and yes, in some cases you have free medical. NO DIFFERENT TODAY.
    You also complain you were OPPRESSED....do you even know the meaning of the word OPPRESSED?

    op·press (verb (used with object)
    1. to burden with cruel or unjust impositions or restraints; subject to a burdensome or harsh exercise of authority or power: a people oppressed by totalitarianism.
    3. Archaic . to put down; subdue or suppress.
    4. Archaic . to press upon or against; crush.

    Please tell me that your race don't get free housing. I can name some people here in this town that Habitat for Humanity build 29 brand new homes ALL WITH BLACKS RESIDING IN THEM, 5 of them are about to be forclosed because they spend them welfare checks on things that are not important.

    No, no way in call can you even say you are oppressed and sadly that baffoon in Washington knows this and knows how angry the...





    What is it with you blacks?
    All y'all think you are god's gift to the human race...and your reasons, I have to laugh at them.
    What happened to the blacks during the mid 1800's IS YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT.
    You got used to getting things for free. On the plantations did not the plantation owners give you free housing? The way you kept them was YOUR fault, did not the plantation owners give you free food? How and who you feed with YOUR fault, and yes, in some cases you have free medical. NO DIFFERENT TODAY.
    You also complain you were OPPRESSED....do you even know the meaning of the word OPPRESSED?

    op·press (verb (used with object)
    1. to burden with cruel or unjust impositions or restraints; subject to a burdensome or harsh exercise of authority or power: a people oppressed by totalitarianism.
    3. Archaic . to put down; subdue or suppress.
    4. Archaic . to press upon or against; crush.

    Please tell me that your race don't get free housing. I can name some people here in this town that Habitat for Humanity build 29 brand new homes ALL WITH BLACKS RESIDING IN THEM, 5 of them are about to be forclosed because they spend them welfare checks on things that are not important.

    No, no way in call can you even say you are oppressed and sadly that baffoon in Washington knows this and knows how angry the blacks are and takes full advantage of that. There are blacks out there that are worth millions some living in the American Dream THATS BECAUSE THEY GOT OUT THERE AND BUSTED THEIR ASS'S FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, but then for every one that has busted their fannies to live that dream are 20 that want others and the Federal Governemnt to support them....JUST LOOK AT THE HIGH RISE APARTMENTS IN MAJOR CITIES OR IN WHAT THEY CALL THE PROJECTS...oh yes, you will find whites, and hispanics, but please tell me what race the majority are?

    PLEASE TELL ME ONE OTHER RACE THAT IS MORE OPPRESSED THEN THE BLACKS? Never mind I don't want you to over tax your thoughts....THE NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN...
    The population of them Native American compared to other races is 0.26% WHY because first even though some have broken away from the reservation there are the old ones and even some of the younger ones remaining behind to attend the old ones, true we life in run down shacks but ARENT WE ON WHAT I WOULD CALL A PLANTATION WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNEMTN AS OUR MASTERS?
    Yes, we get free food, and we get wood so we can build our homes, and we also get free medical. but there is one thing that we do that the blacks cannot seem to control.....WE DON'T DROP KIDS LIKE CATS DROPPING KITTENS. We are small in population because we know how to live within our means.
    Again, I am not saying that we are better then anyone else BUT LOOK HOW THE BLACKS REACT TO THE WHITE MAN COMPARED TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS....
    I am going to love this response.
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  • Mikado ... Constit... 2012/09/23 15:37:04
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +2
    What is it with so many SodaHead wannabe wise men who are so lazy that they cannot even look at a person's profile before they jump the the wrong assumption and make fools of themselves with their own writing?

    Am i black? No.

    Do i have free housing in USA? No.

    Did i write any claim of oppression, involving me or black people? No.

    So that is 3 fails for you.. fail fail fail

    Sorry Mr. Racist, thank you for playing.. here is a parting gift for you..
    i flag openly racist writing like yours.
  • Tennyso... Constit... 2012/09/23 16:06:46
    Tennyson James
    +2
    Most people would be too ashamed to express such racist views publically. I am a Native American who is very active in the tribe and your assertions about Native Americans are offensive also.
  • Mikado ... Tennyso... 2012/09/23 16:29:27 (edited)
    Mikado Hikyuu
    +3
    There have been studies that concluded that because of a presumption of anonymity online that many people lose any pretense of a moral compass. Instead of acting with any respectfulness or respectability, these people choose to show us their true inner nature of racism, hate, lust and ultimately their ignorance.

    Basically these people have no real respectfulness, respectability, or sense of honor.

    There is a quote from a very famous, very wise man who said:

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

    -Martin Luther King

    Thanks to the internet, we get to see the true character of many people daily, and unfortunately their character is truly sick and openly immoral, selfish to the point that they intentionally will hurt others to seek their goals - and that is the best working and non-religious definition of evil that i have ever heard.
  • Mvr Constit... 2012/09/23 18:21:52 (edited)
    Mvr
    +1
    Blacks did not have anything FREE in the 1800's, because everything including their lives came with a costly price. Separation of families, death, and treated like cattle.
  • MayLin CUDDLY ... 2012/09/23 18:31:17
    MayLin
    Look in any mirror and you'll see one. Your assumption is both incorrect and offensive.
  • CUDDLY ... MayLin 2012/09/23 20:04:22
    CUDDLY BUT STILL CRABBY
    +1
    I offended you? Too frigging bad dimwit.
  • MayLin CUDDLY ... 2012/09/23 20:22:16
    MayLin
    Your statement was offensive in general.
    My own reaction to your posts is one of amused disgust.
  • meshell 2012/09/23 14:20:51
    Yes
    meshell
    Possibly some people are pathetic enough to not vote for someone because the man is with the times, Are they aware of how many gay couples are ut there, and then the Bi's still considered gay. These people need t pull their heads out of the churches @r$e and take a look at the world around them, Its changing, weather they like it or not. Its called evolution, funny that, we suppose to be evolving, ha. yet we have the appropriate name of DECENDants.. Morals, ethics, general consideration and respect. we are falling short of these days.
  • fredrik19 2012/09/23 14:15:57
    No
    fredrik19
    it will not have any affect at all
  • Arizona1950 2012/09/23 14:09:57
    No
    Arizona1950
    +2
    For those who do their homework, a point of reference ... In 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ordered that the state must make accommodations for gay unions ... Vermont created civil unions as a result.

    and who couldn't (or wouldn't) promote civil-unions to stand on its on merit and bring it forward as perhaps an acceptable avenue to separate church and state for the general welfare of the country as a whole ... ?

    Mitt Romney the 70th Governor of Massachusetts (2003–07).

    In 2004, the Massachusetts Supreme Court went a step further, and ruled that the state must accommodate not just an institution equal to marriage, as civil union was designed to be, but that gay marriage itself must be offered in the state.

    As I've been saying there is no significant difference between Obama and Romney ...

    "Freedom is lost gradually by an uninterested, uninformed and uninvolved people."
    ~ Thomas Jefferson
  • fredrik19 Arizona... 2012/09/23 14:14:24
    fredrik19
    +1
    i truly agree with u america has lost his freedom COMPLETELY
  • Arizona... fredrik19 2012/09/23 14:18:23
    Arizona1950
    To me if America votes for Obama or Romney they have also lost their minds!
  • fredrik19 Arizona... 2012/09/23 14:33:28 (edited)
    fredrik19
    i think for now the best choice is obama america is not ready for romney
  • Arizona... fredrik19 2012/09/23 14:40:40
    Arizona1950
    Not ready ... ? Romney is just another Obama so why would many of them change for a possibly worse wild card.
  • Mizriam fredrik19 2012/09/23 14:38:45 (edited)
    Mizriam
    +1
    Um excuse me, but america already lost its freedom completely BEFORE obama.
  • Arizona... Mizriam 2012/09/23 14:39:52
    Arizona1950
    I still hold out for hope that people will wake up in time and not vote either one of these bastards in.
  • fredrik19 Arizona... 2012/09/26 22:05:22
    fredrik19
    +1
    do we have other choice ???
  • Arizona... fredrik19 2012/09/27 00:19:42
    Arizona1950
    Where there is a 3rd person on the ballot you do have a real choice in a different direction.
  • fredrik19 Arizona... 2012/09/27 23:05:48
    fredrik19
    true but u have to see that all the work that obama did like equal heltcare for every body will be dismiss by romey the moment he get to the white house
    u have to see that obama need a second chance to fix what the administration of bush crash because obama is not the one that crash the economy the war that bush refuse to stop was the main point that crash the ecomony ,the onequal taxes payments betweenn rich and working class all that that is KILLING the states
  • Arizona... fredrik19 2012/09/28 05:34:15
    Arizona1950
    You are just rolling in fiscal denial aren't you ... do you have any clue what Obama's grand scheme has done for the future of those who come after. You are listening to the lies of a tryanny ... and they have been shoveling this rich vs poor-man mentality for the last 50 years while growing richer on the stupidity of those who vote by sound bites.
  • fredrik19 Arizona... 2012/10/01 19:33:46

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