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Could Same-Sex Marriage Cost Obama Black Support and 2012 Election?

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96 percent of black voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. Some black Christian leaders want to change that in 2012. They believe that Obama's pro-gay policies -- mainly his support of gay marriage -- will cost Obama some support from the black, Christian community.

Bishop E. W. Jackson Sr., president of the group Staying True to America’s National Destiny (STAND) started the "Exodus Now" effort to encourage blacks to leave the Democratic party. "It is time for black Christians to have the faith and courage to refuse to associate with the Democratic Party that has become anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-Church, anti-Bible, anti-life, anti-family and anti-God,” said Bishop Jackson.

Bishop Jackson added, "...The Democratic Party has shown itself to be so inimical to the biblical values of Christians and Jews that it is time for a mass exodus. The Democratic Party has turned its back on us, it’s time to turn our back on them."

The National Urban League published a report called, “The Hidden Swing Voters: Impact of African-Americans in 2012.” The report suggests that Obama will lose re-election if only 60% of blacks turnout in 2012 -- the same amount that turned out in the 2004 presidential election, which George W. Bush won.



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  • Jean 2012/09/21 14:39:46
    Yes
    Jean
    +15
    The reason that the gay-marriage initiative in CA went down in flames in 2008 wasn't because of the Mormon vote - it was because of the black voter turnout. Obama has opened the door to his defeat - and also his potential "outing": http://tinyurl.com/obamasgaylife

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  • Professor Wizard 2012/09/24 14:29:18
    No
    Professor Wizard
    The Election? no...

    Some Votes.. Absolutely!

    The Election he will lose, because he didn't do what he promised he would. Well actually because he DID do what he promised.... ... .. as he promised CHANGE.. and CHANGE is what were getting!
  • JuliaLoren 2012/09/24 14:27:48
    No
    JuliaLoren
    +2
    supporting freedoms should never COST someone an election.
  • MissAshley 2012/09/24 13:06:03
    Yes
    MissAshley
    I wish there was a 'maybe' option... I don't think same sex marriage is a big deal and that there plenty of other reasons for Obama to lose support, whether it be black, white, indian, asian, etc.
  • Knot_Rich 2012/09/24 13:03:00
    No
    Knot_Rich
    +1
    I believe the impact will be very minimal, if anything to worry about at all. Obama supporters in general, and especially the black voters, are good at continually making excuses for anything Obama does that they don't necessarily agree with. It would be an entirely different situation if he was Republican, and if it was a white Republican the black churches would be up in arms. But, if you keep up with the editorials, such as Dwane Wickman, it doesn't matter what Obama does, they need to keep a black man in office no matter what the cost to the people, America or the world. Obama knows the black voters "got his back" so he's not too concerned with offending them a little, his need to pander to other fringe groups, like the gays, the environmentalists, the illegal immigrants, is more important right now.
  • Howard Knot_Rich 2012/09/24 14:47:27
    Howard
    +1
    Well said -- it all goes to show just how thoroughly racist and hypocritical many of his supporters are.
  • rbeas 2012/09/24 12:50:11
    No
    rbeas
    Highly unlikely.
  • brian 2012/09/24 12:13:07
    No
    brian
    +1
    It should not effect his support. Most people with a brain know it your choice who you love! Not your Republican party religion radicals
  • Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll 2012/09/24 12:08:24
    No
    Mr.Hoodz the Truth Troll
    +2
    Hate to say it but most of my brothers and sisters are still blinded by this puppet.
  • HearMe~AFCL 2012/09/24 11:34:30
    Yes
    HearMe~AFCL
    +1
    I sure hope so.
  • El Prez 2012/09/24 09:34:33
    No
    El Prez
    +1
    It is highly unlikely. The "one issue" supporters are not going to vote for him anyway, others will see that it makes no difference in their lives and move on to an important issue.
  • Jim 2012/09/24 07:57:38
    Yes
    Jim
    +2
    Among the Bible believing Black People and the well educated.
  • LayLady 2012/09/24 07:05:01
    No
    LayLady
    +2
    What a dumb reason it would be
  • C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT 2012/09/24 07:03:12
    No
    C-ZAR™, Emperor of the PHÆT
    +3
    When looking at the alternative, I don't think so
  • Howard 2012/09/24 06:21:45
    Yes
    Howard
    +1
    We can only hope...

    obama gay
  • kells Howard 2012/10/02 11:56:06
    kells
    He agrees with freedom to choose. I'm not, gay but I do support a persons right to choose.You right wing folk constantly preach about too much Government I think to much government is when the government to include nosey people and bible thumpers invade a persons personal life and try to tell them how to live it if that's not a comunist move I don't know what is. If do not have the freedom then we are not free.Government is a business and religeon should not be apart of government I don't like my tax money being spent on who should get an abortion or who who should be allowed to get married if they can afford it let then it should be allowed we have far more worse issues like Finding the all the money that was loaned to the banks that was supposed to help stimulate the economy or finding more people who are trying to cheat at the polls
  • Common Sense Conservative 2012/09/24 05:25:38
    No
    Common Sense Conservative
    +2
    Hussein Obama's terrible 4 years will cost Hussein Obama the next election. He's terrible.
  • Jeff King 2012/09/24 05:08:48 (edited)
  • Common ... Jeff King 2012/09/24 05:26:56
    Common Sense Conservative
    +2
    Hussein Obama sucks ass as a POTUS. He's terrible.
  • Jeff King Common ... 2012/09/24 13:56:16
  • meme14 Jeff King 2012/09/24 21:48:43
    meme14
    Booooo?! That was a horrible win over the Steelers last night..
  • Jeff King meme14 2012/09/25 00:26:36 (edited)
  • meme14 Jeff King 2012/09/25 01:11:10
    meme14
    +1
    Steelers just had some bad luck they'll be back! - Don't hate..lol steelers
  • Jeff King meme14 2012/09/25 01:21:50
  • meme14 Jeff King 2012/09/25 01:52:13
    meme14
    lol..Browns fan? I didn't think there were any of those :)
    k
  • Jeff King meme14 2012/09/25 02:19:33 (edited)
  • Common ... meme14 2012/10/12 04:44:55
    Common Sense Conservative
    I think the Steelers lost again tonight to the Titans. They suck ass as bad as Hussein Obama does as POTUS.
  • meme14 Common ... 2012/10/12 22:53:08
    meme14
    lol..the Steelers will be in the playoffs...again..like they always are..don't worry..
  • Common ... meme14 2012/11/05 06:13:32
    Common Sense Conservative
    I don't worry, ever
  • meme14 Common ... 2012/11/05 06:16:57
    meme14
    lol..the Steelers are on a winning streak..no surprise there though!
  • Knot_Rich Jeff King 2012/09/25 13:53:07
    Knot_Rich
    It took both parties decades to dig us into the hole we're in, not just Republicans. Clintin did his share with the Community Reinvestment Act, which forced banks to hand out mortgages to unquallified people, creating and fueling the sub-prime market and leading to the housing crash.
    History proves blacks will vote for a black no matter what, even if the candidate happens to be a whore mongering crack smoker like Marion Barry, elected as Mayor of DC and current Ward 8 Councilman,
    You ever work at a voting station and see how the different people vote? Spend a day, from 7AM to 7PM at a voting station in a typical mixed race area with everyone, Hispanics, Asians, blacks and whites. It's an educational experience.
  • Jeff King Knot_Rich 2012/09/25 14:19:06
  • Knot_Rich Jeff King 2012/09/25 14:25:23
    Knot_Rich
    Ah, this tells me that you've never worked at, or even spent any amount of time, at a polling station. You don't have to know how they act once inside the booth, the evidence is clear before they even enter the building.
  • Jeff King Knot_Rich 2012/09/25 14:30:03
  • Knot_Rich Jeff King 2012/09/25 14:51:02
    Knot_Rich
    Nope, not necessarily, although you know that to be the case in many instances. But that's not the real indicator, it's their actions before they even enter the buiilding. After working at polling stations for many election cycles, every 2 years, plus run-offs, I can pretty much spot who is going to vote conservative and who is a liberal. Your picture for example, more than likely she'd vote liberal because she's spent too much time watching NBC and CBS.
  • Jeff King Knot_Rich 2012/09/25 17:36:51
  • Knot_Rich Jeff King 2012/09/25 18:31:32
    Knot_Rich
    You wish, although the remark about NBC and CBS was facetious, based on her fearful expression. You're talking as someone with no experience working at a polling place. If you had you would know exactly what I'm talking about.
  • meme14 2012/09/24 03:43:42
    No
    meme14
    +1
    Maybe it will cost him some - reasonably you'd have to think that it would..but regardless..he can't pander to everyone..he's not going to make everyone happy...in the end..you have to go with your convictions whether they are popular or not..they should at least respect his courage..no other President has ever come out in support of gay marriage. No one respects someone if they won't stand behind their convictions. Hopefully, the votes he loses with some blacks he will gain with those who do share his beliefs
  • Superman meme14 2012/09/25 15:02:40
    Superman
    As a gay marriage supporter, if Obama really held to his convictions on this then he would have made clear his support for gay marriage before the North Carolina vote as a means of influencing voters in the middle. What he did was sneak in after the vote happened to try and capture some of the anger over the outcome to solidify base support.

    At the end of the day, though, any one using social issues like gay marriage and abortion to decide the Presidential election is an idiot. Bush was never capable of banning abortion or passing an anti gay marriage amendment, Obama hasn't really helped the gay marriage cause other than tossing out some rhetoric. Presidents, by and large, have little to no effect on those issues. Those are issues that play out mainly in the states and courts.

    This election should be decided based on the economy and jobs and to a lesser extent now the foreign policy situation that has exploded.
  • meme14 Superman 2012/09/25 21:35:50
    meme14
    He is the first President to come out in support of gay marriage..you cannot take that away from him. It's a fact. He is also the first President attempting to provide health care for those who are uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions. The economy was a mess when he took office and it is improving..it would improve more if there weren't so much obstruction in congress..he needs more time - and, seriously, our congress men and women need to pay attention..their approval rating is like 10% - People are tired of their sh%t
  • Superman meme14 2012/09/25 23:07:53
    Superman
    Thats nice, he's given some words. Good job. I'm a gay marriage supporter and I care about actions over words. His actions say nothing to me.

    The thing about pre-existing conditions is that its not economically feasible for either private insurance companies or for the Federal government. See whats going on in Greece? We'll be there much faster when Obamacare goes into full effect. The problem is that simply trying to give coverage doesn't actually fix the foundational issue with healthcare - cost at the price point. It merely shifts the burden. Real healthcare reform needs to start by addressing cost in the industry. What Obamacare is is false hope and an economy destroyer.

    Obstruction from Congress huh? Thats what you think. Come on. Look macro and stop being spoon fed your information. Obama had two years with a very favorable Congress, so much so that he was able to pass Obamacare. Why didn't he pose jobs legislation then? Why didn't he pass that first? That was the most pressing need, its what got him elected. He didn't push or attempt to pass anything during those two years.

    The economy isn't improving. The only factor that is improving is Wall Street - which is artificial. It doesn't help everyday workers. The private sector is terrified of this adminis...

    Thats nice, he's given some words. Good job. I'm a gay marriage supporter and I care about actions over words. His actions say nothing to me.

    The thing about pre-existing conditions is that its not economically feasible for either private insurance companies or for the Federal government. See whats going on in Greece? We'll be there much faster when Obamacare goes into full effect. The problem is that simply trying to give coverage doesn't actually fix the foundational issue with healthcare - cost at the price point. It merely shifts the burden. Real healthcare reform needs to start by addressing cost in the industry. What Obamacare is is false hope and an economy destroyer.

    Obstruction from Congress huh? Thats what you think. Come on. Look macro and stop being spoon fed your information. Obama had two years with a very favorable Congress, so much so that he was able to pass Obamacare. Why didn't he pose jobs legislation then? Why didn't he pass that first? That was the most pressing need, its what got him elected. He didn't push or attempt to pass anything during those two years.

    The economy isn't improving. The only factor that is improving is Wall Street - which is artificial. It doesn't help everyday workers. The private sector is terrified of this administration because its hostile toward business. I guarantee you this, we'd be in a much better situation economically and job wise if Obamacare had not passed. Businesses aren't dumb. They plan and forecast and they are sitting on a ton of capital to spend on equipment and employees that they're holding because Obamacare will cost so much.

    I feel for you, I understand what you want. But you're looking at this from an entirely rhetorical point of view - full of one sided information. You need to look macro, look at the bigger picture and give both sides a chance. I didn't vote for Obama but I expected certain things from his Administration and gave him a chance. Between Obamacare, the economy and now foreign policy there is zero reason to reelect him. The bs about Romney not caring and about it being all Congresses fault is a distraction.
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