Could Same-Sex Marriage Cost Obama Black Support and 2012 Election?

by Fef Posted 2012/09/21 18:00:00

Related Topics: Gay Marriage, 2012 Election, George W. Bush, Obama, Barack Obama, Gay Rights

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96 percent of black voters chose Barack Obama in 2008. Some black Christian leaders want to change that in 2012. They believe that Obama's pro-gay policies -- mainly his support of gay marriage -- will cost Obama some support from the black, Christian community.

Bishop E. W. Jackson Sr., president of the group Staying True to America’s National Destiny (STAND) started the "Exodus Now" effort to encourage blacks to leave the Democratic party. "It is time for black Christians to have the faith and courage to refuse to associate with the Democratic Party that has become anti-Christian, anti-Israel, anti-Church, anti-Bible, anti-life, anti-family and anti-God,” said Bishop Jackson.

Bishop Jackson added, "...The Democratic Party has shown itself to be so inimical to the biblical values of Christians and Jews that it is time for a mass exodus. The Democratic Party has turned its back on us, it’s time to turn our back on them."

The National Urban League published a report called, “The Hidden Swing Voters: Impact of African-Americans in 2012.” The report suggests that Obama will lose re-election if only 60% of blacks turnout in 2012 -- the same amount that turned out in the 2004 presidential election, which George W. Bush won.

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Jean 2012/09/21 14:39:46

Yes

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The reason that the gay-marriage initiative in CA went down in flames in 2008 wasn't because of the Mormon vote - it was because of the black voter turnout. Obama has opened the door to his defeat - and also his potential "outing": http://tinyurl.com/obamasgaylife
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Reichstolz to Dogman 2012/10/01 15:50:05

Unwilling to objectively read, typical.

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Muriel ... to Dogman 2012/09/22 02:08:03

It only matters to those who want it!

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Dogman to Muriel ... 2012/09/22 07:59:52

What only matters to those who want what?

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Patriot Unit 2012/09/21 22:53:47

Yes

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I believe that if the Blacks who consider themselves Christians, and follow their faith, that should be all the answer they need on the subject of Same Sex Marriages, and Homosexuality. And that should out weigh a vote for a man who is half black. But that should not even be a reason to vote for or against him. As skin color is no logical justification to vote for anybody. Its an excuse by many, because the man had no record or still refused to run on that record, or disclose his past, that is suspicious to say the least. And its about time that all black leaders, no matter if they are religious of not. Start being part of this country, instead of fighting against it. They believe the dogma of the Democratic Party, in many cases without question. They believe that they are Victims, instead of Citizens that that is a sad thing. They believe that anybody who is not of color, is automatically suspect, and racists towards them. Those who believe Biden, that they will be put back in chains, are truly misguided. Those who believe that Republicans, or any white man wishes them to be in chains, only have themselves to blame or question. As they tend to believe the lies of the Democrats, without questioning their intent. They seldom ask . You don't blindly accept the policies or promis...

I believe that if the Blacks who consider themselves Christians, and follow their faith, that should be all the answer they need on the subject of Same Sex Marriages, and Homosexuality. And that should out weigh a vote for a man who is half black. But that should not even be a reason to vote for or against him. As skin color is no logical justification to vote for anybody. Its an excuse by many, because the man had no record or still refused to run on that record, or disclose his past, that is suspicious to say the least. And its about time that all black leaders, no matter if they are religious of not. Start being part of this country, instead of fighting against it. They believe the dogma of the Democratic Party, in many cases without question. They believe that they are Victims, instead of Citizens that that is a sad thing. They believe that anybody who is not of color, is automatically suspect, and racists towards them. Those who believe Biden, that they will be put back in chains, are truly misguided. Those who believe that Republicans, or any white man wishes them to be in chains, only have themselves to blame or question. As they tend to believe the lies of the Democrats, without questioning their intent. They seldom ask . You don't blindly accept the policies or promises of anybody just because of their skin color, gender, or party. To me same sex marriage is offensive by nature. As is homosexuality. And the Government has no business in either area. But that is my opinion. I neither want anybody to change their opinion one way or the other. But I do believe that if the blacks who support their Christian Faith, have their answer to the question of Same Sex Marriage. They just have to look.
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16 2012/09/21 22:52:10

No

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No. -_- This is the dumbest question.

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Cal 2012/09/21 22:43:35

No

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I highly doubt this will effect the "race vote". He's the first black President. Some people really don't care to think beyond that. Consequences are minor details to them. I don't see it being an issue with anyone besides the churches.

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Holly to Cal 2012/09/21 23:14:53

I actually think that racism is coming out in this election. It was suppressed and now it is being expressed.

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Robin B to Holly 2012/09/22 00:09:20

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I agree Obama is a racist.

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Muriel ... to Holly 2012/09/22 01:17:20

Executive Orders on Amnesty and Gay Marriage right before a major Election! Of course! It called VOTES! HE THROUGH GOD UNDER THE BUS AT THE DNC! HE ALLOWED THEM TO BOO GOD! When does it end!

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shiroid... to Muriel ... 2012/09/22 15:20:21

The federal government is not a limb of your church. Your god does not get to call the shots.

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thє вluє wαndєrєr 2012/09/21 22:33:39
mikeeonly 2012/09/21 22:32:16

No

not prevalent enough

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lori 2012/09/21 22:32:02

Yes

I hope so

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robert.goldsmith.14 2012/09/21 22:31:44 (edited)

No

I don't think this is really going to have an effect either way. He hasn't kept the bulk of the promises he made, and this is a flip-flop issue for him, so why should gays trust him to keep his promise to them? What will hurt his chances with the black voters is that they have suffered greatly in job losses over the past 3-4 years. What will cost him the election is the economy, the insane gas prices, his famous quotes "The private sector's doing fine", "You didn't build that" and "We don't know is Egypt is an ally or enemy", constantly blowing off Israel when they need help the most, the lack of security during the embassy attacks when he had a good 48 hour advance warning about it, bowing to a foreign leader and a slew of other things, those will be what costs him the election.

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Ian 2012/09/21 22:28:31

No

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I'll never understand why everyone is obsessed with race, it's 2012 for pets sake.

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JustBeingAtPeace 2012/09/21 22:27:32

No

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Some "votes"!? Sure but not the election. Still saying seperate church and politics already sheesh.

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Fef to JustBei... 2012/09/21 22:31:59

Obama made State overrule Church when he forced Catholic Churches to participate in his Obamacare plan for abortions and condoms.

BTW, the Constitution doesn't have "separation" clause as many have heard. It has an "establishment" clause, which protects religion from exactly what Obama did.

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shiroid... to Fef 2012/09/22 15:28:17

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How exactly did he violate the establishment clause?

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william.turner 2012/09/21 22:19:33

Yes

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I don't really care. But why are the blacks given a free pass to dislike gay marriage but if a white pastor speaks out about it then he is a biggot?

Actually this concerns me more: "96 percent of black voters chose Barack Obama in 2008"
If that is true then how many voted for him just because he is black? That is the same as saying "I didn't vote for the other guy because he is white". And that is racist.

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Holly to william... 2012/09/21 23:17:58

I don't think that Blacks voted for him because he was black. They voted for him because he knew the experience of being a minority. But, he is also revered and respected by much of the non-black community. He brought a voice to those that often don't have a voice.

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william... to Holly 2012/09/21 23:22:07

Well you are sadly mistaken then.

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william... to william... 2012/09/21 23:22:28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?...

The video did not embed so here is the link.

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Muriel ... to william... 2012/09/22 02:22:30

EDITED FOR YOU'

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william... to Muriel ... 2012/09/22 02:27:10

Well maybe this one? Here you can hear an interview unedited and see the transcript.
http://www.therightscoop.com/...

There are more if you like?

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Teachkat to william... 2012/09/22 16:09:06

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Thanks for posting that was very interesting. Harry Alford seems to really have his head on straight. Great interview, I will be googling him to hear more of his views. I wish this could be more widely publized but left wing media would never.

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Ev Rom to Holly 2012/09/21 23:51:09

most of my family voted for him, I didn't know latinos are black now also. I know I know conservatives make it easier on themselves by lumping us all into one big undesirable group.

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Robin B to Holly 2012/09/22 00:13:24

You really can't believe that. He lived a privileged life, he can't relate. It was all about being black. So many people told the pollsters that was all they really knew about him...his race, and that was enough.

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Ev Rom to william... 2012/09/21 23:48:59 (edited)

Where do black people get a free pass? I speak out against blacks who are against gay marriage. They hate the comparison but its there. Conservatives back in those days used the bible to enslave them and to keep them from mixing races. They loved it when the law changed. Enough time has passed that they have forgotten about the benefits of having somewhat equal rights.

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william... to Ev Rom 2012/09/21 23:54:35

Well look at the media coverage of when blacks hold conservative veiws. Either its not covered or its made fun of. Look at when a white has those views. He is villified and made out to be a racist and hater. Have you ever heard a Kanye called out for being a racist?

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Ev Rom to william... 2012/09/22 00:15:37

There is racism in every culture and race. The difference is that whites will put up a pic of Obama as a monkey, hanging from a tree or just straight out call him the N word and then cry because they get called a racist. I don't see blacks crying about getting called out on their hate of white people, they admit it, sing about and could care less. Neither is right but whites who are racist try to pretend to be offended when they get popped.

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william... to Ev Rom 2012/09/22 00:26:33

Actually you are wrong. The more the left calls te right racist for views that are not; the more we care less about it. And get over yourself, blacks use the "N" word a whole lot more than whites lol.

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Ev Rom to william... 2012/09/22 00:34:03

Ok then continue to post pics of a hanging noose and use the n word, Im sure people will one day consider that non racist. LOL

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william... to Ev Rom 2012/09/22 00:39:13

What are you talking about? I am not racist lol. And I'm not saying those things won't be considered racist; I am saying that people will just care less over time because of all the false claims. The boy who cried wolf syndrom.

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Ev Rom to william... 2012/09/22 02:04:26

Usually the ones who get called a racist are the people who do what I have quoted above. Then most of the cons come to their defense.

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william... to Ev Rom 2012/09/22 02:20:30

Well I would argue that black culture is more racist than white culture. But that is just my opinion based on my own life experiences.
Funny thing is that the racist's in black culture just seem to hate white Americans but the racist's in white culture seems to hate all blacks.

I also think it’s odd that all American whites must pay for the sin of slavery even though (as with my heritage) a lot of white’s forefathers were not even in the country until after the civil war.

I find it sad that the black culture would rather complain about slavery that they never saw, and their parents never saw; rather than try to help out their fellow man in Africa that are currently slaves to other blacks
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ConvoCh... to william... 2012/09/22 00:06:30

Don't try to play that card, because it doesn't work.

Obama is a democrat and black people have a history of voting overwhelmingly for that particular party. If Herman Cain were the Republican candidate running against a white democrat, the latter would still get the majority of the black vote. Obama's being black was just icing on the cake.

Seriously, just stop.

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william... to ConvoCh... 2012/09/22 00:27:13

http://www.therightscoop.com/...

I've got plenty more if you like. How many will it take to admit you are wrong?

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ConvoCh... to william... 2012/09/22 03:04:22

First you're going to have to come up with a better retort than something from a website called "The Right Scoop." I don't think so. You can keep that one. What else you got?

In the meantime, my position stands.

Black people have a history of, by and large, voting Democrat. And the last time I checked, Obama is a democrat. When Herman Cain was vying for the Republican nomination, I don't recall much black support being levied his way, if any.

Hmmm.

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william... to ConvoCh... 2012/09/22 03:31:43

LOL! That links a story to the laura Ingram show and has the video embedded. It's legit
Here are some more:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com...

http://obsdailyviews.blogspot...

http://www.regalmag.com/shoul...

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ally 2012/09/21 22:18:53

No

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The fact that republicans have set up voter ID laws that descriminate aginst black Americans is a much larger issue than gay marriage and religious views.

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